Air Rifle Thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by GordonFreeman, Jul 3, 2011.

  1. dwarthog

    dwarthog Been here awhile

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    A little report on recent .30 cal action with the RAW. No pictures as they are kind of "messy".

    There seems to be a family of woodchucks/groundhogs/whistlepigs living under the shed in my backyard.

    To date, their number has been reduced by 3. The RAW is damn accurate and with them making an appearance @ 40 yds it's lights out with 1 shot to the head.

    I've been playing around a little bit with the hammer spring to get the FPS up a bit but so far it's just playing around. Right now I have it shooting up to 850 or so but there seems to be a bit more deviation from shot to shot than before, although it's not affecting the accuracy. I definitely need to run some more pellets through this thing, as I've only emptied two 150 count tins.

    Also tried out this little cleaning system for the first time on the RAW.

    http://www.patchworm.com/patchworm.html

    Works nicely and is very compact for taking it to the field with you too.
  2. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    I can't remember if you said if the gun is loud or not. Backyard friendly?

    Going up tonight to see if there are any pot guts left. Last weekend there
    were longer yardage shots and I can't decide on the Streamline in a .25 or
    a .30 FX Boss. both are pretty long rifles.
  3. therivermonster

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    Nice shooting, dwarthog. Post up some pics of those bad boys, just cover their head with a rock or something like Rick did. Pics are always fun.

    I had some time this morning, and the squirrels were active so I decided to put the heat on them. They already emptied the peanut feeder a day ago, and it holds a lot of peanuts. I've watched blue jays take a couple and fly off, and even saw a nice sized rat come out of the bush, grab a peanut and scurry away while watching through the scope one day, but he was too quick for me and the rediculously shitty trigger on the Benjimin Trail. Today as I watched the squirrels through the scope, I could see that they were fitting at least three shell on peanuts into their mouths then running off to burry them. I would bet hat's why the nuts have been going so fast. At any rate, I bagged two of those tree rats in about 30 minutes this morning.

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    The boss making sure work has been done efficiently on number 2.

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    Bagged up and ready for the freezer.

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    My dad was a taxidermist, but passed away when I was young. Back probably when I was eight or so, we picked up a road kill squirrel that was in good shape and took it back to his shop. He showed me how to skin it and stretch it, and I still have that hide to this day pinned to an arrow quiver. My kids are really into all this stuff, so we are going to skin these guys out and start a pelt collection. I might even fry some up and see how that goes.

    Back to my trigger comment about the Benjamin Trail. It is the worst trigger of all time and really makes it difficult to get good shots quickly. I know that you can upgrade the triggers on the springers, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll have to say I can't wait for the trigger on the Wildcat. I think it'll make a world of difference while hunting.

    One note about today's session. Both squirrels took good head shots. The first took the .22 pellet right between the eyes with the pellet traveling through his head into his body. He dropped and shook as usual for maybe a second or two which is shorter than normal for a clean head shot kill. I could see the hit clearly and I didn't see any further movement, breathing, etc. so I was sure it was a quick clean kill. Then squirrel number two comes along and drops down the fence post to check out squirrel number one on the deck - clearly dead - when squirrel number one all of a sudden starts flicking it's tail. It was still alive. I don't know how, but it was still alive. I shot number two, then put a second into number one's head. I'm not sure how he was still alive but he was. I feel pretty shitty about that, but I guess sometimes it just doesn't go down as expected.

    While this story was unfolding, squirrel number three looked on from a distance. He never came in close enough for a shot, she he got a pass for the day. I just looked out the kitchen window, and he's out there happily munching away at the peanut feeder with no competition. He must be the happiest squirrel in the neighborhood right now. Enjoy those peanuts my furry friend. Your time is short.

    Edit: I just happened to look out the kitchen window just in time to see a good sized jet black rat drop out of the bush, grab a peanut and scurry off. I'll just add him to my list...
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  4. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Nice shooting there. Triggers make all the difference in the world. Once you are spoiled it's awful
    hard to shoot with a bad trigger. Looks like your feeders are working just as intended. Nice.
  5. ex250mike

    ex250mike Been here awhile

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    I've done some leather work, but never any tanning/curing. Do you freeze them then skin them?
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    I'm looking forward to the trigger on the Wildcat even more than the added accuracy for sure.

    My dad had all the tanning stuff in the shop. If I remember correctly we tanned the hide using conventional methods. Me freezing them now is only because I don't have time to process them at this time, not part of any kind of method. To be honest, I don't remember a thing my dad taught me, so I'll be hitting up YouTube university and the internet for some methods. I can post some pics when we get started.
  7. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    My neighbor in Salt Lake has a cabin up by me at the lake. I took him
    out tonight looking for rabbits. Only saw one so I gave him the gun.
    He got first blood and was a little giddy. Pretty sure we have a new
    airgun victim.:evil Using the .22 Mutant. It just dropped it.

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  8. dwarthog

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    To be honest I've not really paid a lot of attention to the noise level on the RAW. Being out in the country noise isn't much of a consideration. I'll do a side by side "ear test" of the RAW and the Vulcan and let you know how they compare.
  9. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Had the Streamline .25 out for the first time in the field. No surprise it nailed everything
    I aimed at. So quiet it's weird. Little hammer noise and that's about it. Pure Stealth.
    I was using a tripod and it's 50-75 yard hit ratio was excellent.

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  10. therivermonster

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    Nice gut, Rick. The Streamline looks like a very nice option within its price point. Did the Hugget come with the rifle, or did you add it?

    I have been sitting out in the open at a little fold up table to support the gun, pellets, libation, etc. The squirrels have been coming around even though they know I'm there, but they would pretty much drop down, grab a nut and head back into the bush. When I watch them from the kitchen window, they'll spend much more time feeding and sitting still. I had an old Harbor Freight camo tarp in the garage, so I figured I would put it to good use. With some tarp poles, and some line, I strung up a nice little hide.

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    My shooting lane is pretty much just into the corner of the yard where the feeders are. I sat down to take a pic of the feeders through the scope just as I finished building the blind and this furry dude dropped down on the feeder.

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    He sat nice and still on the top of the fence post as he nibbled away at his nut, and the rifle was loaded, so I took my time, gently squeezed that shitty Benji trigger for what seemed like forever. I had the time and finally the shot went off followed by the familiar thump of a pellet into flesh. The squirrel dropped dead instantly getting hung up in the fence in an interesting manner. He bled out all over the roof of the feeder.

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    From the back side of the fence.

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    This is squirrel number five, and they just keep coming. I'm astonished how quickly I'm going through peanuts. Time to start ordering the nuts in bulk I think.
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  11. Gillus

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    fricken awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I was just about to wrap up the session last night when my daughter came out to see what was up. Just as she stepped behind the hide squirrel number six dropped down. We had the time to talk about ethical shooting and about squirrel behavior before settling on a good head shot. The squirrel fell to the ground between the fences and somewhat out of reach for me. She volunteered to retrieve the squirrel and did just that. I am a very proud dad, and just in time for fathers day. I made a deal with her then and there that if she ate that squirrel with me, we would begin shopping for her first bb gun.

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    Happy Fathers Day, all you FF's!
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  13. pluric

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    Another bad weekend for the vermin. The Leshiy was just on it's game.
    Then I missed a couple easy shots and the deal breaker was a 25 yard
    jack rabbit shot that missed.:scratch Got looking at the gun and the scope
    had come loose. Has quick release rings that worked loose on the rail
    extension. No tools with me so I switched to the Mutant and a tripod.

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    That is a crazy accurate combination. I used 8 12 shot magazines.

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    For Father's Day my son paid my entrance fee and Motel accommodations for
    this years Extreme Benchrest Competition in Arizona. He and his cousin want
    to try it too. He sent his Impact to Ernest Rowe to get an edge on me.:D
    I'm sure his cousin will be using a .25 Cricket. I've never tried something like
    this so I'll be trying some different options out to see what works for me.

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  14. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    When I quizzed AoA about the sound level they assured me if I wanted quiet a Huggett
    was the way to go. They have to sell it with the gun or you ship the gun back if you want
    one later. I just bought it at the same time and it is VERY quiet.

    I'd bought a FX Ranchero pistol from them and did the same thing. No way would it be
    backyard friendly without it.

    About the same size as the Mutant with the Huggett.

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    When all else fails bring out the Mutant.
    Everybody needs a Mutant as a backup :evil
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    It's been raining lately, but that hasn't kept the squirrels away. I took a look out the kitchen window yesterday morning and saw this guy scoping out the hide. They might be forming a plan...

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    With yesterday being fathers day, I spent some time with the kids building a birdhouse and a new peanut feeder while the tools were out. I don't know why, but I really enjoy putting these things together. This one will replace the original grey peanut feeder in time. It's bigger, so it'll hold quite a few more nuts and it blends in better with the surroundings.

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    I mounted it on one of the empty fence posts with a bit of bird seed in it for the time being. Since putting food out, we've had a lot of interesting visitors to the yard, and they are fun watch.

    Pluric, I might have to take you up on your offer to buy the Wildcat .25 mags. I've been reading a lot more about the Vulcan's, and they seem to be very nice rifles. I don't recall from reading past posts in this thread, but do any of you own a Vulcan, specifically in .25?
  17. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    "Dwarthog to the Vulcan courtesy phone. A Mr. Dwarthog to the Vulcan courtesy phone."
    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/air-rifle-thread.703388/page-421

    Extremely nice gun. I don't have one because they are too similar to other .25's I have.

    If you do want to get rid of your Wildcat magazines just let me know.
  18. Gillus

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    I have one and with a little practice and the right amount of holdover a 1" spinner can be hit consistently at 100 yds. Quiet and hits hard compared to a .22. Very similar to other .25s as Pluric stated. Most all of them in that price range do well. Heck the right shot placement might toss that tree rat across the fence.
  19. dwarthog

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    Going to and participating in the EBR will be a lot of fun!

    You'll want to print off some of those EBR targets and start throwing some serious amounts of lead down range!

    You can print out some official practice targets here, http://www.extremebenchrest.com/extreme-benchrest-rules/

    Good luck!
  20. dwarthog

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    I'm your huckleberry. :D

    I have a Vulcan Tactic in .25.

    So far I've had no issues, unless you count the time I got a bit over zealous with cleaning the barrel and dislodged the o-ring in the breech that seals around the pellet probe. Can't blame that on the anyone but myself. :lol3

    Otherwise it's only gotten more consistent with it's accuracy as I've run more pellets through it over time. It's got a great trigger, it's solidly made and Egveny, the guy behind Airgun Technologies who makes the Vulcan, really goes the extra mile in fixing issues of any kind that are reported by his users.

    They are currently on the 4 generation of the design so he's not resting with regards to his product development and is listening to the feedback from his users, which is nice to see.

    I need to sit down and do a side by side shoot with the RAW at 75yds to see how they compare. I expect the RAW to be a bit more consistent but from previous efforts at 75yds with the Vulcan I can say it won't be by a whole lot unless the RAW literally starts stacking pellets into 1 hole.

    Here is an earlier post I made with me shooting the Vulcan at 75yds.

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/air-rifle-thread.703388/page-352#post-31132341

    I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone looking to drop that kind of $$ on an air rifle. You won't be disappointed.