Airhead Bar End Mirrors

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Ron from BC, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. Ron from BC

    Ron from BC Long timer

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    This question came up deep in Boojum's older thread however I didn't see an answer for me so...

    I use my restored '76 R90/6 for lazy coffee rides on nice days and there's really nothing that needs doing since I replaced the rings and tube seals last month.

    The one annoyance I do have is I can't see well enough behind me with the stock mirrors.

    Can anyone recommend a bar end mirror that will fit my stock Euro Low bars? I don't have a problem spending dough on parts and often we find that we get what we pay for but.....there are some parts out there that work fine but just don't carry the big brand name nor the big price.

    If the consensus is the Napoleon AP-104 and someone knows a good source please pass it on...I've seen many repros listed.

    Thanks..
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  2. walkingbear

    walkingbear Lets Play Chicken!

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  3. kz1

    kz1 Been here awhile

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    Dennis Kirk has them for about $30 each. I do not know how this price compares with other dealers. I have always had good luck with them. www.denniskirk.com
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  4. bpeckm

    bpeckm Grin!

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    A friend with a gorgeous 75/5 had "real" Napoleons on his bike, which is what got me into them as I liked the look and the functionality. But don't bother with the cheapo napoleon look-alikes, they are crappola! Go for the real Napoleons.

    I had the cheapos on my /2 with Euro bars, they worked OK but the chrome started rusting at seams very quickly....
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    frankly, I have short-stem BMW mirrors on my /6 (with K bike bars) and I like them even better, with good visibility, slight convex image. I am thinking that the geometry of the K bars lets them "tilt out" more than perhaps the Euro bars would have, but I do have excellent visibility.

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    Good luck: mirrors are such an important ingredient for both safety and looks!
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  5. Speed King

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    These are the real Napoleons- they are great. Full range of adjustability.


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  6. Uncle Ernie

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    To be period correct, hw would need to find Alberts- a far superior maker that is no longer in business. They go (occasionally) on eBay for several hundreds of dollars now.
    Otrherwise-Naploleons. They are also available from shops that use the Parts Unlimited catalogue, which is every shop and dealer in this town, anyway.
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  7. Ron from BC

    Ron from BC Long timer

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    Thanks for the input guys, I'll source out supplier for the real Napoleons. I had an left side Albert on my /2 but for the /6 I'm ok with removing the stock mirrors for a pair of bar ends....better alternative than trying to ride with my elbows tucked into my side.
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  8. wirewrkr

    wirewrkr the thread-killer

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    You can literally walk into ANY motorcycle shop in your area, ask the counter man if he has a P.U. account, (parts unlimited), everyone does,
    ask him to order you two AP104
    that's all he needs to know, even if he doesn't know what an AP104 is.
    it's the part number that is used by P.U.
    They have them in all warehouses, I just checked.
    By the way, I've used Alberts and Napoleons for years, and even though Alberts look a little cooler, the Napoleons are better build quality. The only downside is the black ones fade quickly in the sun. I think I may clear-coat my next new set.
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  9. Speed King

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    Max's BMW. Ask for Rose
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  10. drhach

    drhach We can't stop here, this is bat country!!

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    I've got the cheapos (EMGO I Believe), I like them. No issues other than the black paint is starting to fade. I also added those stick-on fish-eye mirrors to the place on the mirror wher I can only see my arm. That helped rearward visibility a lot. Get the kind that you can rotate (Autozone, NAPA, etc.).
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  11. DADODIRT

    DADODIRT Long timer

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    I put the Napoleans on my airhead with euro bars, but had to do some grinding on the nut and rubber flange to make it fit inside the bars.
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  12. crazydrummerdude

    crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy

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    So, to put bar-ends on, do you have to cut the ends off of your grips?
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  13. bpeckm

    bpeckm Grin!

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    Not "off", but yes you have to cut a hole in the ends...

    As an aside: on my /2 I mashed the mirrors in just far enough so that the rubber on the throttle grip had some friction, and presto I had a throttle that would stay in place (aka "cruise control", and took little effort to roll on or off the throttle... I liked that! Also, I found it quite useful to be able to flip the mirrors inward when I was wrestling the bike through the doorway onto the back deck, or if rolled too close to the doorway while backing out.....:wink:


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  14. crazydrummerdude

    crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy

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    Interesting. My R90 might get some Napoleons and Clubmans, then..
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  15. crazydrummerdude

    crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy

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    Is there some unspoken no-no about chrome ones? Seems like everyone uses black ones.
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  16. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    I think the chrome ones make the bike look wider, while the black sort of fade into the background.

    Also, I wouldn't trust the chrome - it could wind up being a real pain when it starts to flake and you'll have to paint em black anyway.

    The thing I like most about the Alberts is the replaceable mirror. Actually I like everything about them except the un-availability and price. I hear Vech sells repros and parts for them though.

    Does anyone here do metal stamping? I'd love to make a copy of the Albert mirror head and mount it to the stock bmw mirror stalk.
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  17. Uncle Ernie

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    Napoloeons are nice because they have the rubber plug so they absorb vibrations. That also mkes them hard to take in and out several times, though
    I liked the Alberts because the action was smoother, and they were rebuildable.
    I don't think Napoleon makes chrome mirrors.
    An easy way to make the hole is to whack the bar-ends with a 2/4.
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  18. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    If you really want a quality mirror, check out the CRG - Hindsight mirrors.

    I have them on my bike and I really like em, plus, theyre super high quality. I sprung for the "Lane Splitters and I like the way they fold up for splitting lanes or during storage. In my opinion, if youre gonna throw $$$ at your bike, these are definately the way to go. Unfortunately, by the time you buy the mounting inserts, the cost is $100+ per side. Ouch!

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    The Alberts mirrors were allways 'the shit' but the quality wasnt the best and the internals will/would rust after a few years but the shape and the stems were just beautiful. I had one of mine fall apart and threw both of em in the trash a couple of years ago. I figuir that that cost me about $250!

    Someone should put those mirrors back into production. I'd buy TWO pair! Loll!!
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  19. wirewrkr

    wirewrkr the thread-killer

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    Yeah they do. Just don't see them as often. But they are available at a buck or two more than the black.
    Robert
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  20. Marvin_ADV

    Marvin_ADV Been here awhile

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    I just bought some Napoleon Bar Ends for my nekkid SV at Motostrano, good price and good service. Not sure if you want period correct but this model has been around awhile.

    http://www.motostrano.com/nabarendmi.html

    Hmmm they were $28+ two weeks ago now they are $31+
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