Airhead Bar End Mirrors

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Ron from BC, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. n8mojo

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    Reviving an old thread here, because it is just so relevant.

    I just got the Napoleon ap104s for my 75/5 with the euro bars (hard to find, no longer made I think). The left side fit on just fine, but the throttle side seems to hang off the bar about 1/4 inch (maybe a little less). Pushing the entire throttle over as far as I can to keep the throttle grip flush with the bar causes the throttle too much friction as the angle in the bar causes the throttle grip to get to tight at the bottom. Basically the throttle won't return if the end is even with the bar.

    To mount the Napoleons they must be flush with the bar as the rubber flange expands inside the bar.

    Not sure if anyone else had this problem, but all I can think to do is cut off the throttle and grip the 1/4 inch or so.

    BTW, found the mirrors here: https://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/

    Nate
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  2. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    Well, I just did a Google search and those mirrors appear to be readily available from several sources. Didn't note any chrome ones though but then again, I wasn't looking very hard.

    About the grips:

    I don't have direct experience with the Napoleons but when I was running the Albert's, you had to trim the ends of your grips on the throttle side and I had to do the same when I mounted the CRG's on the Hot Rod.

    You don't need a lot of clearance between the mirror stem and the grip but you do need some (CRG specifys 10mm.) or the throttle will hang up and thats not a good thing.
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  3. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    I used to run British Stadium brand chrome bar end mirrors on my R100s and later R80/7. Not sure if they are still in business and if they are, the mirrors wouldn`t be made in Britain any more.

    If you can get hold of British classic bike magazine, like Classic Bikes or The Classic Motorcycle, I`m sure they would have an ad for such a mirror.
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  4. n8mojo

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    My problem seems to be the throttle is overhanging the bar end -- so the mirrors wont sit flush to the bar. I guess I have to hacksaw the throttle grip, since I can't move it over any further. The magura grip will loose that end lip if I have to do it. Maybe this is normal with the euro bars. I didn't put them on, so don't know if the original US bars (presumably what it had) was more flush. eh. I hate cutting stuff on old things. Doesn't seem right.
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  5. spo123

    spo123 Man About Town

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    The ABSOLUTE NICEST and most EXPENSIVE chrome bar end mirrors that I have found......and declined.....a couple of years ago.
    DUCATI factory mirror from the classic, I think, Paul Smart edition.
    The dealer quoted something like $120 or $140 to be shipped from Italy......Simply beautiful and lovely......They would have looked great on my toaster.....However......y'all know the rest of this.
    I think that, these days......those mirrors would at least be more easily available......probably NOT less expensive.....They could actually have been stainless.....don't recall.
    Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanza.....etc, and HAPPY NEW YEAR! :deal
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  6. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    Just as an option to throw out there. I got these at cycle gear more than a year ago. Bike is back porch stored and ridden hard in FL sun, heat and humidity. Have more paint missing from sand blasting effect from road stuff than anything else and the internals are all in top notch condition. Vibration and convex are really good. Great visibility from such a small mirror.


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  7. acap650

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    Here they are.

    Classic rectangular type: http://classicpartsltd.com/820-halcyon-bar-end-mirror.html

    Round type: http://classicpartsltd.com/830-halcyon-bar-end-mirror.html

    Pricey but appear to be high quality stainless with a much better solid internal mount than Napolean rubber hose.

    US distributer is http://www.britishmotorcyclegear.com/Parts.asp

    I've been wanting these for my W650 but it's hard to give up the quality of the OEM mirrors.
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  8. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    Holy Smokes!!

    $180.00 for a pair of Alberts mirrors?!?!

    Well, I guess I paid that much for my CRG's but damn.... Alberts mirrors used to be about $15.00 a piece! I know that stainless would be an improvement, because the old ones would rust but still... $180.00 plus shipping...!
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  9. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    Are you sure that you have real BMW spec Euro bars? :huh

    Thats what I'm using on my bike and the length hasn't been a problem.
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  10. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    I am sure that he could. I have been trying to forewarn people for years that those already too narrow euro bars have been coming from BMW even shorter yet for about 15 years now. They are cut entirely too short. The bends in the bars don't allow the perches to slide far enough up so there is room to get the grips all the way on. I don't understand why they would thusly ruin such expensive bars? I don't think the bends are different. I think they are cutting the bars too short. I am surprised more don't mention it.
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  11. n8mojo

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    Not sure the history on the bars, but previous owner said they were the euro bars. I suspect he added them in the last few years, so maybe this is the issue. Maybe I'll just try to put some kind of washer between the rubber flange and the mirror so it can stick out a little more without cutting the throttle grip.

    Meh.

    Nate
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  12. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    They only clean solution available with bars cut too short like all the bars are that I have seen coming from BMW for years now is to buy short grips and cut the throttle tube shorter. There is a standardized shorter grip out there. Personally, I think the best solution is to get bars that are not cut too short. Those bars were too narrow before they started cutting them even shorter. I never needed the BMW "gentleman's" option of making a handcuffed getaway. I consider the day done when I get handcuffed. They are all too happy to shoot you in the back these days. :lol3
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  13. Kai Ju

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    Another option on bars that are too short, if no more than a 1/4" or so, is to make a spacer that fits between the handle bar and the mirror. The expanding end is usually long enough to cope with that extra length but if you're really worried about that fab a spacer of equal length and a longer bolt for the expanding bit.
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  14. Kurt V

    Kurt V Been here awhile

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    My R75/6 with Napoleans;

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  15. n8mojo

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    Beautiful bike Kurt.
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  16. n8mojo

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    Supershaft,

    What is the part no for the standard shorter grips? My original magura's are fading away anyways...

    Nate
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  17. n8mojo

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  18. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    You can't get them through BMW. They are on small dirt bikes and mini bikes. I have seen a lot of the shorter Grand Turismo's looking for genuine normal ones. Man I wish you could still get those!
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