Alaska to NOLA - 2014 Scooter Cannonball

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by cdwise, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer

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    They announced the start/end cities and dates for the 2014 scooter cannonball. I'm trying to figure out how to get a Vespa GTS to Hyder, Alaska when I can't take 5 weeks off work to ride both ways. Looks like I may have to sit this one out after all.
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  2. gaijinrider

    gaijinrider Positively positive

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    Have you considered air freight via Alaska Air?
    I have read in another thread that Alaska Air can ship bikes but it may cost at least $1,500. If that's beyond your budget, then you WILL need to sit this one out.
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  3. dbzeag

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    Yeah I really wanted to hit this up, too. The drive back from New Orleans to Houston isn't that big a deal. It's getting to Hyder that's the issue. I might have a lead on that, though, with a friend running as a support truck. I might be able to wrangle a spot on his trailer, we shall see.
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    Looks like around $800 by ferry from Bellingham. Alaska Air doesn't fly to Hyder. Closest airport is in Terrence 300 miles away and it is puddle jumpers from what I can see.
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  5. tortoise2

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    Pretty much the usual "name brand" rider list. Sure would be interesting if a more generic GY6 Znen variation, or a TaoTao, participated in the event . . but the expense excludes many.
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    It does look like the cost of participating in the event would be more than for a decent scooter.
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  7. DaBinChe

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    Chinese scooters won't hack it...they have a hard enough time just as a commuter scoot.
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    My biggest expense is going to be hotel/motel, then food, then parts/prep/maintenance for the scoot, then gas...but yeah it'll cost me about $3k I think for everything
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    Most breakdowns in my club....are the Chinese scooters...............
    I can't believe there are no BMW's.....
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  10. DOUBLE-O G

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    Isn't there an engine size limit? A local guy told me he couldn't enter his Forza.
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    tortoise2 Been here awhile

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    Sometimes just "luck of the draw". Some Xingyue GY6-B 150cc engine comparisons . . this one dropped a valve seat . . another has over 40,000 miles with no major issues.
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    250cc per the rules . . Honda Forza is 279cc.
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    That person doesn't know how to read a speedometer/odometer. It is only 40,000 kilometers, comes out to 24k miles. But knowing chinese bikes the reading is very inaccurate, I'm guessing at least 10% off and I'm not just talking about the speedometer which most bikes are, but the odometer is very optimistic as well. I have done many laps around a given test course and the readings are always off. The most miles I have seen from a chinese bike is about 25k miles on the odometer when I was working at a chinese scooter shop. The guy rides it on the bike lane and never exceeds 15mph...that bike was the most beat up bike I had ever seen that was still running. It ran like shit and took a dozen tries to start and everything was so loose and sloppy. But it still ran.
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  15. DaBinChe

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    I think the OP was offended by my post. I wanted him to rethink his approach on doing SCB. He got two HD200 one as a backup parts bike...totally unnecessary as Patrick has shown on more then one occasion. His hotel was really high too..seemed like he didn't have a roommate. I have a roommate and our rates aren't even near his rates..not sure what was going on there. He also showed ferrying cost, much cheaper to just ride up from Seattle or ship to Prince George and ride up. Getting all brand new gear too, just ride what you got is fine and if he is gonna get new gear anyways then that gets amortized, it isn't just gonna be only for this trip. When I did AK a few years ago I spent about $2k. This time around it'll be about $3k, the extra $1k will be for hotel during the CBR.
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    Related comment.
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    Is number 99 who they say they are?
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    Kind of a joke that singular opinions are allowed there. Obviously things can be done differently.

    Bin, post up your results there after you complete the run! Lol.
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    Max engine size is 250cc, the only BMW scoot I can think of that would qualify is the C1 and you almost never see one of those.

    Not all the scoots participating are expensive. You've got a Yamaha C3 50cc, a Buddy, several Stellas including two with sidecars. Multiple Honda Helixes and a few other Hondas, Syms have done very well in previous cannoballs. Though I grant you almost half are Vespas with the GT 200 being the single most popular. If you add in Aprila Sports Cities and Piaggio BVs that brings the family up to half of the participants.

    Personally I wouldn't trust a Chinese scoot to get me from Seattle to Hyder much less all the way to NOLA. I'd ride one of the 35-50 year old Vespas n or 37 year old Helixes competing before I'd ride modern Chinese.

    As for costs I'm looking at approximately $3,500. I'm replacing a fair bit of gear after last year's accident and upgrading my luggage since I discovered how not waterproof the old stuff was despite the so called rain covers but I didn't include that in cannonball costs because I'd be replacing the gear and luggage anyway.

    That's without a room share unless my husband decides to come along after all I'll not be sharing a room - my choice. He goes back and forth because of lost time from work. I looked at the spreadsheet on Modern Buddy and don't know where the $178 hotel came in since not one of mine is anywhere near that. It looks like he's including the Hilton at Amerivespa in his estimate given the price quoted but whatever. Frankly, I wouldn't be doing the cannonball if I had to spend $10k to do it either but I'd be surprised if I spend half that including the replacement gear. About the only cannonball specific parts I've purchased that wouldn't be bought right now anyway is a set of rims and tires to swap out if I need to. The tires will be used at some point in the future so that not a big deal leaving only the $200 I paid for the rims. The USB port would have probably gone on a different scoot but that was under $20. We had the Spot (Philmont and other backpack trips my husband/son have done) and the GoPro. Probably add one month of Canada roaming to my ATT cellphone so that's another $25. In 2012 I took a 4,400 mile 15 day trip on the scoot from Colorado to Michigan and back which cost about $2,450 so the cannonball isn't that much more expensive. Most of the additional expense is getting to the start, extra tires premounted on rims and a few spare parts I wouldn't normally carry. On the 2012 trip I made arrangements for new tire and service in Lake Geneva, WI while I was there for Amerivespa. On the cannonball I am carrying them myself.
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  20. DaBinChe

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    the most expensive hotel for me is in Jasper at $164 then Hyder for $115, everything else is under $100. Including three nights in NOLA it'll be less then $800 for me splitting with roomies. I think making reservations later increased cost in some locations, compared to the folks that made them right away.

    When I rode to the Arctic Circle a few years ago it only cost me a little over $2k, that was almost an 8k mile round trip that took 24ish days. With this trip cause I'm hotel/motel during the CBR and camping there and back compared to camping all the way on my Arctic Circle trip it'll be around $3k.

    Didn't relies there were so many GT200, they have a good handicap over the GTS250. I think the GT will be more competitive then the GTS because of the handicap. Only problem I see for them is the elevation gain with a carb.

    You don't need to get an extra wheel it is just too bulky. Plan it out so that you'll do a tire change at the hotel/motel later that day and I'll remove/mount the tire. My fee is a hot meal...I'll need it after wrestling the old off and new on.
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