All things Automobile - THE definitive car thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Bueller, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. ImaPoser

    ImaPoser adventure imposter

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    Are you trading in your truck with a trade value of $21.9k on a used F150 with a trade value of $25.7k? Then yeah, he's going to need to see nearly $6k in cash to make it worth his time. If he did the deal for $3800, all he did is change his inventory and not put a dime in his pocket.
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  2. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    The only diesels I've ever ethered were semi-tractors. I felt little concern, because of their intake length, robust design, and there being a turbo in the way. Furthermore, I've never had one even think of backfiring. Now, the ancient Continentals, in duece and a halfs, using a JP4 (jet fuel) soaked rag, could definitely teach one a lesson. But, in Korea, out in the field at -5 degrees, one has to use whatever it takes to get 'em going. Oh yeah. Don't try that at home. :lol3
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  3. Bueller

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    Not sure exactly what you are saying here, but look at it this way:

    Many dealers like to talk about trade difference. If you're good with numbers and know how to negotiate off of the total like that, go for it. I often will. But most people are more comfortable breaking it down into two pieces:

    1) How much do I pay for the new vehicle?

    2) How much do I get for my trade?

    Added to that will be smaller stuff like doc fees, etc., but breaking the deal into pieces lets you better understand what is really going on.

    Beyond that, if you are buying a used vehicle it gets a little more gray. Your point of comparison is market value only, because you have no way of knowing what the dealer has invested in a used vehicle. If you purchase it favorably compared to market, you are doing well. Some do better than others, which is attributable to local market conditions (demand), length of time in inventory, the dealer's net cost, his interest in your trade, and your negotiating skills.
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  4. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    Modern diesel pre-heating systems can readily ignite ether :deal Ether itself is some dangerous shit no matter where it is used. Just like a bomb it's perfectly safe until it winds up in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it.
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  5. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    Oh yeah, I forgot about that, on pickup engines. I'm not sure what commercial engines have "glow plugs". With all the new EPA requirements that keep rolling out, it's hard to keep up. I've left that industry, anyway, so I'll be safe. :wink:
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  6. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    If my company wasn't stinking fucking rich you would owe them a keybaord, because I just filled this one with coffee.
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  7. koncha

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    I have 1000 miles on my S60.

    Damn, I really like this car. I like how it drives. The AWD is fantastic. The engine has a nice growl for being a 5 cylinder. The seats are tremendous. The power steering feels properly boosted for the car. The brakes are even and have good feedback.

    Exceeding my expectations.
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  8. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Cool thread. I even like Bueller even though he's a wrangler fan!

    One of the managers that works for me has a 2008 Wrangler Sahara with a 3-4" lift and 35s on it with the Auto transmission and 45k miles. What do you think the value of something like that is? She's tired of driving it and its a dog on the highway.

    She likes the Caddys - the CTS and the SRX.
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  9. Bueller

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    Depends on the options, the brand of wheels and tires, and the quality of the lift & other equipment. You can lift a JK the wrong way for $300.00, or the right way for $4000.00, not including wheels or tires. Figure retail book value (which will be comparatively high because Wranglers have stellar resale value) plus about 50 cents on the dollar for her modifications if sold to a private purchaser, or wholesale book value plus zero to 25 cents on the dollar for her modifications if traded in to a dealer.
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  10. ImaPoser

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    The fact you mention it's a dog on the highway means it wasn't regeared for the bigger tires. That would lead me to believe they would have gone cheap on the lift as well. My wife's jeep supposedly has a two inch lift and she wants bigger tires, but I won't buy them till I find out what was done to lift it and what would need to be done to run 35's the right way.
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  11. ddavidv

    ddavidv Thrifty not cheap

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    The only way my 1963 snow blower will start is with a shot of ether.

    That's ok with me. If the fucker blows up, I can justify buying a new one. :D

    Scion IQ review: Best Post Of The Week!

    Now, back to our car thread morphing into a "How to negotiate with dealers" thread.
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  12. Gas Hog

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    I thought the only snowblowers around in '63..were the ones with wooden handles..not engines...I think my dad might have been lying to me..:huh
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  13. koncha

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    It is possible to four wheel drift an S60 in the snow with the new Haldex system. Traction control will automatically get turned off and an error will show on the dashboard until you turn it off and restart it.

    I also learned that my 11 year old stinks at recording a video of an S60 four wheel drifting in the snow. :lol3
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  14. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    Well my dad and grandpa sold them back in the sixties.:wink:

    They looked like that:

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    By the early seventies Ariens was quite diversified, even made snowmobiles.:clap
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  15. ddavidv

    ddavidv Thrifty not cheap

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    That one is fairly similar to mine, a Moto-Mower brand with a Tecumseh engine. I was able to date it from the engine tag when I ordered parts for it once. It's heavy, a PITA to start, none of the controls work like they should and I had to weld the axle sprocket to the axle to keep it from wandering and kicking off the chain. But, it's better than shoveling and does a good job once it's going. The $75 I paid for it 12 years ago was probably worth it.

    I'd like a fancy new one with electric start and heated grips but anything that is so expensive I need to make payments on it ain't for me.
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  16. SQD8R

    SQD8R Eat squids and be merry

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    Still love my miata; after 6 yrs no money into it and never an issue and it still handles amazingly on the stock Bilsteins.

    Checked out the new BRZ from Subaru - Toyota... impressive but I don't know if I can give up on convertibles.

    Was looking at Porsche's Cayman but also looking at a used Viper or used Nissan GTR. Problem is I will still need a winter vehicle.
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  17. Bueller

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    Glad we're past snowblowers :lol3

    I was faced with that same issue when I sold the Miata and bought the Shelby. I still have a motorcycle and a Jeep, so it isn't the end of the world.

    I'm really thinking a low mile garage queen Boxter S will be my next target should I ever decide to sell the Shelby, but I have to admit I'd weigh it heavily against a C6 Vette. But right now I'm not ready to let go of the Shelby, so it doesn't matter.
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  18. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    I've read recently that a convertible Toyobaru is in the works
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  19. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    I think that I too will be soon in the market for a gently used Boxster S. .....or Cayman, but I really am a ragtop man.


    ....unless, the siren call of a 993 is something I cannot resist....


    :becca
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  20. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    There's an intermediate shaft bearing that you need tyo watch out for. link