All things Automobile - THE definitive car thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Bueller, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    Not what my friend is saying, but yes, its going to drink more gas than a NA Mazda three just by virtue of the turbo.

    http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/speed 3/2012

    I love that site, my friend says hers is getting like high 20s and that would be mostly stop and go light to light.
  2. kawalaser

    kawalaser Hip to be square

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    my first 3 series:

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    and current:

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  3. koncha

    koncha .

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    That down market was brutal. Mansion to muffler shop.
  4. MookieBlaylock

    MookieBlaylock Long timer

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    while i like the gti i think the chances of it making 200k trouble free miles is maybe 3 in 10. The tacoma feels like 9 in 10 so if reliability is the main issue honda or toyota
  5. HOT DAMN!

    HOT DAMN! ♪ ♪ ♪

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    Chose a 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe from the rental lot for this trip.

    Pros

    Best attribute of this vehicle is the stereo
    34 MPG if you're a dork that gets fully torqued by that
    Haven't driven a 4 cylinder in 15+ years, 80 mph cruise control was a complete surprise


    Cons

    The worst seats ever
    A LOT of buttons
    Buzzy 4 banger in town
    Zig zags down the road like an ADD kid on crack
    Did I mention it has a lot of buttons

    Never again and not looking forward to the trip back. Wishing I'd picked the tried and true Avalon Touring for this 3 hour highway trip, all in the spirit of learning. Have a good life Hyundai. :wave
  6. C Squared

    C Squared Now with TURBO!

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    I'm a TDI junky... Love the diesel VW's
    Not a huge Gasser VW fan although I'm sure they are fine. I'd just choose something else if I was burning Gasoline.

    Plan on keeping both of ours past 400K
  7. Ursa Major

    Ursa Major Bemused

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    I've had 4 VW's:

    -85 Rabbit Convert - 70k miles in 3 years, burned out the clutch (my fault), otherwise no problems.

    -96 Passat TDI - 30k miles in 1 year, no problems

    -04 Phaeton, the most complicated car they ever made - 50k miles in 3 years (loved it so much I went 14k over on the lease), no problems

    -12 Jetta SportWagen TDI - 3k miles in 6 months, no problems so far.

    YMMV, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
  8. jdiaz

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    Wow. I still wonder about finding a used W12, if they haven't all been lit on fire by now. :lol3
  9. HOT DAMN!

    HOT DAMN! ♪ ♪ ♪

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    How does one go from a Phaeton to a Jetta? :lol3
  10. neumie

    neumie Been here awhile

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    12k over on the lease...?
  11. Ursa Major

    Ursa Major Bemused

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    The JSW's parked between a '12 Range Rover HSE and an '81 300SD that gets more miles than the other two combined.

    I have eclectic taste in cars. :lol3
  12. Ursa Major

    Ursa Major Bemused

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    I realized pretty early on that it was far and away the best car I'd ever owned (well, leased..). After the dealership's special "Phaeton tech" told me that the list price for the air suspension module at one of the corners was around $4k, I also realized that there was no way in hell I'd own it outside of warranty (I feel the same way about a new S-Class, 7 Series, or RR).

    The lease was cheap - I was shopping for an AWD long distance cruiser and I was checking out the Touareg forum on VW Vortex. I checked out the adjacent Phaeton forum and saw a dealer offering a zero down, $599/month lease on a Phaeton V8; it was cheaper than a Touareg V8 so I took it. At $.25 a mile over 36,000, the incremental miles were cheaper than the base miles. I drive a lot, and I timed it so that I turned it in just under the 50k mile warranty expiration. I didn't begrudge writing the $3500 check for a minute - that car was just a pleasure to drive.

    The Phaeton was the platform for the first-gen Bentley Continental GT, with the Phaeton's W12 supercharged in the Bentley. A friend of mine who was a conspicuously consuming real estate developer at the time ordered a Bentley, custom specced, blah blah blah for $185k. I always pissed him off when I told him I was leasing the same car for 6 bills a month. I finally got him to sit in the Phaeton's driver seat, and he realized the dash was essentially identical to the Bentley without the wood. I thought he was going to cry..
  13. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    Agreed. Their origami crap is definitely not going to be timeless.
  14. HOT DAMN!

    HOT DAMN! ♪ ♪ ♪

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    :webers
  15. Veteran Noob

    Veteran Noob Astoundingly Unremarkable

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    Alright, where the flock did you take this. I'm a frequent visitor to the Henry Ford Museum (at which this car is on "permanent" display) and for the last year this baby has supposedly been on a temporary trip to the Goodwood Festival of Speed (just how long does GFS last?). Pisses me off as the Lotus 38, the '67 LeMans winning Mark IV and the Allegheny 1601 are my primary reasons for visiting.

    Looks wise, I prefer the Lotus 49 over the 38, although the differences are subtle, and I think Gurney's AAR Eagle has them both beat by a fair bit. The Weslake 12 in the Eagle even sounds way better (when it ran) than the glorious DFV too.
  16. StevG57

    StevG57 Rocky Mtn surf patrol

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    Sure it's a neat car and it changed Indy forever, but it killed the dinosaurs. In my opinion, nothing looks better than a early 60's Offy roadster, just like the ones in the background.
  17. NSpooner

    NSpooner Adventurer

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    That's at the museum at Indy.
  18. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    That's the Indy museum at the track in Speedway. Worth a visit if you're passing through....

    Looks are subjective of course adn I had no personal attachment to the front engine Indy cars.

    JC's Lotus appeals to me for it's mechanical design, color, layout, proportions even memories of toys as a child. Most importantly, it predates the ground effects that have uglied up open wheelers. There are lots of significant race cars, I am just singling this one out for pure viceral appeal. The beauty of the exhaust header alone is worth the trip to Speedway. :deal
  19. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    So I started having problems with my Stihl power products. I'd had some intermittent starting, idling, and high-rpm running issues. My Kombi experienced all three and got to where it wouldn't even start. I pulled the carb apart, cleaned it, and reassembled. While in there, I noticed a parafinn-looking substance, but, thought nothing of it. The thing ran great, the next day. However, it resorted to the same non-start issues as before. Talked to the local dealer and found there's an encased "valve" within the carb that can't be cleaned and a new carb is the only way to fix it ($29-no big deal). He stated that in his Stihl classes, they've taught that minimum grade fuels are actually made out of the leftover refinements from higher grades of fuels and, then, mixed with ethanol to create something that can be ran in an automobile. The residual from these fuels is the parafinn looking substance I found. He recommended using only AV gas, as it's pure. I noticed that AV gas, after it dries on the skin, leaves no nasty smells. In fact, I can hardly tell anything was ever on me. Why is that? Is it that gasoline's nasty fumes are all the chemicals put into it to make something burnable? Educate me.
  20. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    You probably should avoid too much contact with AVgas due to the high lead content.