All things CAD!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by McCormack, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. FloridaSteve

    FloridaSteve Long timer

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    Really cool. I'd love to get my hands on a copy of solidworks! There's a 2 stroke engine crankcase I'd LOVE to draw up. I's doable in plain Autocad (3D functionality is pretty cool) but I doubt I could ever get a cnc file out of it. When I get to work tomorrow I'll post up a screen grab of some of the cooler site development work I've done.

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  2. PoundSand

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    You'll get over that. ;)

    I learned on microstation and pro/e, most familiar with catia now. NX is supposed to be pretty sweet these days. For someone looking at pcking something up for home, spaceclaim looks pretty interesting, is easy to use, and is (relatively) low cost...
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  3. Krabill

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    One of our latest Solidworks projects.

    Virtual:

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  5. FloridaSteve

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    Outstanding!:clap You have to love it when it all comes together that accurately. Hmm... this might help me make an argument in favor of SW for out larger pumpstation and plant design... food for thought.


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  6. Brunow - 007

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    Nice work! How is the sheet metal in solidworks?

    Proffesional use:
    I use it a lot in autodesk inventor 2012. With the right K value - bend loss you really can tweak those bends.

    Home use:
    Alibre. Cheap but ... allway's one step behind... (And sheet metal just ... aint what it could be)
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  7. reelfish

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    I have been a machinist for 33 years been using cad/cam for at least 30. I started with a system called microcad a pc based system from Lockheed then moved to Catia huge difference between the two. The engineers did not like the machinist using the catia so the shop got us Tek-soft and them Gibbs-cam which is a apple based system then. Them Mastercam started to show up. If someone wanted to us just the cad we also had a version of Autocad that was dos driven system. Now to this date I have been using Gibbs-Cam and MasterCam both have there ups and downs. What I would like to learn is Pro-E But our shop is to cheap to go that route.
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  8. LuciferMutt

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    I use acad 2004 at work just to make 2d third angle projection drawings of small parts I design and fabricate. It does what I need it to, but I'm nowhere NEAR an expert with it. I use the same two templates for everything and almost never use layers, etc.

    I just use it to draw straight lines :lol3

    I have used MasterCam in the past and like it. My department can't afford a single of seat of it at the moment..
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  9. AZbiker

    AZbiker Crunkin' with crackers

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    I'd love to be drafting again, but not there.

    I would be confined to the states of NH and VT for the rest of my life. :lol3

    As soon as I get my A+ and Network+ certs (fallback) I'm going to start looking again.

    I know what you mean about "readable plans"--I've seen plenty drawn by people that wouldn't know the meaning of lineweight if it was shoved up their ass. These same people also seem to be fond of shading large parts of the drawing in colors. I guess they don't have a clue that once the drawing leaves there office it's going to be printed in black and white and that pretty colored shading is going to be unreadable.

    I saw tons of this when I was a mapper--lots of boundary surveys that don't close as written because the asshats drawing them don't understand direction.
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  10. Bongolia

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    I'm a Structural Engineer (buildings) and taught myself how to use Autocad R12 when I worked in the Caribbean on a small island (no draughtsmen, had to do all the drawings ourselves :lol3)

    I use it all the time now for smaller 2D stuff, mainly plans and projections and also for detail development when I have tricky connections and the like to work out.

    It's a great tool. The new solid modelling stuff looks amazing. Our company are moving towards BIM/Revit in a big way.
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  11. Krabill

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    The sheetmetal tools in Solidworks are great.

    We have both Inventor and Solidworks, but use SW exclusively now. A couple of the big pluses for SW is the file management - one file per weldment instead of each piece having its own file in Inventor, and the structural components are much, much simpler in SW than Inventor. We do a lot of structural steel design (as you can see) and in SW it's just a matter of drawing centerlines and telling it which steel member to put along each line. Super simple, fast, and easy.
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  12. McCormack

    McCormack Cronkite of CSM

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    We're in a very specialized industry and just haven't needed anything more than straight AutoCAD.

    For instance, a large portion of our output is reinforced concrete drawings, which basically only requires line work, dimensions and text.

    Increasingly we have been using 3D modelling for our structural steel work, but even then, our framing is pretty basic (all on one plane) and conventional 2D drafting works great and is efficient.

    Having said that, it would be nice to have all our framing modeled and be able to automatically pull weights from the program.

    So maybe I'll take another look at SW or Inventor once I get a lull in my workload.
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  13. Grreatdog

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    That pretty much mirrors our company. We have five structural PE's doing mostly bridge and retaining wall design. They all get by on either straight up Microstation (really PowerDraft) or AutoCAD for most of their drafting. Their computations and modelling are done with other specialized programs. But pretty much all of the drafting is just straight up 2D CAD work. Bridge plans are actually remarkably simple things to draw.
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  14. FloridaSteve

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    Wow. Structural and bridges are not my thing but that's amazing to me. I'm looking at a fully realized and annotated 3D gravity sewer and storm systems with existing and proposed grades on my other screen as I type this. Before Civil this would have been weeks of drafitng. Now if I have quality survey (a freaking rarity unfortunately) and some general design parameters (this can also be hard to get sometimes) I can get the preliminary design in front of a PE with plans AND profiles in a few days at the most. Typical edits take minutes instead of days.

    And you know what occurs to me. We still like to complain about how long things take sometimes:eek1! We are a strange species with a short memory.. :huh
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  15. Grreatdog

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    That is how our civil/site PE's work. We feed them 3D topo and they model roads, sewers, storm drains, etc. using various templates and other automation with InRoads or Geopak. Generating a set of plans is very automated.

    But our structural department is a whole different animal. I guess it doesn't take a lot of CAD power to draw rebar, weld symbols and bolt holes. Watching them scribble on 10x10 grid sheets gives me bad vibes. :lol3
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  16. pinocono

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    Solidworks has transformed my job. I've been in precision sheet metal fab for the past 27 years, and 20 years ago I worked my way off the shop floor and was using a dedicated CAM program to develop CNC code for turret punch presses (and later lasers). I had to create flat pattern developments in a 2D environment, and for the most part it was pretty straight forward. Some jobs with more complicated geometry and/or assembly required a lot of calculator work.

    12 years ago we picked up a seat of SolidWorks because we landed a huge job for the Big Mouse, and everything was done in SW, both the sheet metal and parts for the machine shop (we have 4 Haas CNC mills as well). I pretty much jumped into the deep end of the pool, and it's made all the difference in my career.

    Back then, we had 2 guys programming, with another checking our output before it hit the floor. Now there's just me, and I've taken over job planning as well. SW has made our work much more efficient.

    It's also cool working in a place where I can get a few g-jobs done for myself.:evil

    Dave
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  17. FloridaSteve

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    Oh you lucky dog! What I'd give for that sort of shot.
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  18. OaklandStrom

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    Steve,

    I also wanted to get a copy of SolidWorks, but it's far too expensive to own, unless the boss is buying it. Fortunately, Autodesk is getting more serious about getting 3d drawing into the hands of regular guys.

    123D is in final beta right now, and downloadable. It's Autodesk's answer to Sketchup. It's a decent solution for drawing parts and assemblies. It's not something I'd draw an entire nuke plant with, but for moto parts, furniture, garden sheds, etc, it should be fine. It's free for now, and will continue to be free, although there may be a "pro" version at some point.

    There's also Inventor LT, which is less than $1,000 (and rumored to be getting a price drop very soon). It does just about everything Inventor does. I haven't used it, but have spoken with an Inventor instructor.

    TechShop is a third possibility. If you are in the Bay Area, Detroit or RDU, NC - it's a place where for $100 a month, you have access to computers with all Adobe & Autodesk software, as well as mills, lathes, a wood shop, welding shop, waterjet, CNC plasma cutter, sheet metal tools, sewing, laser cutters, and much more. Assuming you're in Florida, it may not be an option for you. Brooklyn & LA are being planned, according to their website.
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  19. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    :thumb

    Is fifty too old to make a career change :patch
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  20. OaklandStrom

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    Perhaps, but you can spend some of your free time making cool stuff. Then it's a hobby, not a job. :evil
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