All Things Hino

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by dirtydeeds, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. muddyrabbit

    muddyrabbit Lost Boy

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    There's a great place in Carolina that specializes in cabover parts, Bussbee Truck. Excellent service.
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  2. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Glad you updated this. Yes, NPRs are everywhere and come in all kinds of lengths and load heights. I was looking at a short wheelbase low boy. Would make a nice camper and easy to load a bike on it. Plus I wouldn't have to watch the low hanging trees as much. Decided against it in the end. I have enough projects.:lol3
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  3. Motornoggin

    Motornoggin Two-Bit Throttle Bum

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    I had a Mitsubishi COE back in 96' or so. Can't remember the exact model, though it had a GVWR of 14.5k#, had the 3.9l 145hp diesel and Allison 4spd auto. It was fantastic! So much so that I often think about finding another one to turn into a camping rig.

    It was bulletproof. Allison transmission, Eaton drive and steer axles/ suspension, boxed frame, dedicated separate heat exchangers for the transmission, A/C, intercooler and of course cooling. First generation of electronic controlled injection that was flawless. It would start without glow plugs down to 20* f, and would go without block heater down to zero and still start every time.

    It weighed 7300# unloaded with the extra height/length Timpte box. It was governed to 78mph which is not great, but certainly livable.

    It was worlds better, tougher, well engineered than the Isuzu it replaced.

    I only put about 30k miles on it before I sold the business, but I did average 15mpg in mixed driving, and delivery. Not too bad considering the size and weight.
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  4. HalcyonDaze

    HalcyonDaze social misfit

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    I own a Mitsubishi Fuso FG (the 4WD version of cab over one tons). It is as reliable as an anvil, and handles about like one too :lol3 Very rough ride, as are all cab overs and here's why: By nature of design you sit very erect, directly over the wheel. Your spine is in a straight line with the shock waves coming from the wheel, and even the slightest bumps feel huge. You have to come to a near full stop then roll over speed bumps to keep from having your head pile driven into the ceiling. Believe me, I know.

    The best way around this is to lean forward over the steering wheel, putting your spine out of line with those shock waves, and allow your lower body to move with the shock while your upper body remains relatively stationary in space, your spine flexing like a spring.

    I love the practicality of my truck and it looks pretty mean too. I plan to retire it from being a work truck and outfit it as some kind of exploration rig for camping and travelling.
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  5. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Cool. We have similar plans then. I should have time to compile a list of mods that would be suitable. I'm also thinking it may be best to build a deck for it and slide a truck camper onto it. Then finishing that somehow.
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  6. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    So I put together a list of things that should/could/need to be addressed for such a project. It's a partial list and I'd love any input regarding any number of the topics and any additions that I have not thought of.

    In all honesty, I'm not sure how dedicated I'd like this truck to be. Some ideas are temperary so I could sell the truck again. Others assume keeping the vehicle awhile. Necessity, cost, function and convenience will all be factors.
    I threw in a couple ideas that I have, some pieces that I have laying around and some wish list ideas.

    The other 'Build' threads of similar scope will be vital resources as well.

    Iirc, the box is 18'L x 7'h x 8'w. I believe this is substantial space. The cab has room for 3, so I'd like to build it with room for 3. Lets say 2 adults and a child. Room for 3 bikes.

    I'll be checking the classifieds for stuff. If anyone knows a good source for any pieces -please mention it. If I have a bad idea, please tell me. Sometimes I have a problem 'keepin' it real'.

    So here we go:

    Living Area

    Bed
    -folding? Cots? Upper bunk?
    Table
    -Folding?
    Kitchen
    -Dedicated stove or camping gear type stuff?
    -shelving/drawers
    Heat
    -outfitters wood stove
    -electric heater
    Water
    -bladder, black to put on roof, PVC piping
    -small pump, RV
    Washroom
    -interior? From RV
    -black/grey water storage
    -exterior facility?
    Food Storage
    -Fridge?
    -icebox?
    Power
    -solar panels
    -Power inverter, 400 amp, marine spec
    -120v wiring for light, tools, etc
    -storage batteries
    CO alarm

    Shop

    Bike lift
    Wheel Chocks, anchors/D-rings
    Tool storage
    -garage type unit?
    -service van type storage?

    Chassis

    Energy
    -large solar panels -450w
    Fuel Storage (Gas and Diesel)
    -Jerry cans?
    -tidy tank?
    -saddle tanks?
    General storage
    -belly boxes
    Circulating heater/block heater

    Cab

    Communication
    -am/fm/iPod
    -CB, hand held portable
    -GPS
    Seating for 3
    Document storage
    -roof console
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  7. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Just picked up my first Hino bling at Harbor Freight.

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    I'll be installing them at the back of the box. Any suggestions as to whether they face forward, back or sideways?


    Also, there was a little stove in the aisle, too. Anybody know if they're any good?

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  8. HalcyonDaze

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    WAAY too big for such a small space, plus too many air gaps between the bolted together panels. I'd make a tiny stove of plate steel with fire brick in the bottom, able to close it off very tightly.
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  9. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    How small are you thinking? I'd like to be able to boil water on it, too.
    It will have to keep the space warm in winter too. (Ice racing season)

    On another note, I was looking at deep cycle batteries. I'd get 2 - charged partly with solar equipment. That system is very pricey. I could get a small gen set for the same price. Any advice, either way, regarding power? I'm leaning toward the generator now with one battery for back up.
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  10. HalcyonDaze

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    Something about the size of that outfitters stove, maybe a foot square looking at the face, a foot and a half long, capable of stuffing it full of 3" or so pieces of wood. Flat topped for cooking on. With legs, bolted securely to the floor.
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  11. Snarky

    Snarky Vodka Infused.

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    My Toyota FJ Cruiser was manufactured by Hino. So I'm pretty partial to them, they seem to build stuff reliably. I rented a standard hino box truck (with the dog house on the front, not a cab over) and it rode fine, pretty cool trucks.

    I used to have an M35A2, I was going to turn that into an expedition vehicle, but it was pretty intolerable to drive on the highway (and I drove it a lot), even on 46" tires it was slow, and the noise was like nothing else. Eventually I got rid of it and bought a bike.

    Now one of my future goals is to take one of the later model Hinos, say with their 8L Inline-6 diesel, and then go through to process of installing a medium duty 4-wheel drive setup, and make it an expedition RV. You can get medium trucks pretty readily used, and they are cheap. I'll certainly be watching this thread.

    On power. I would like to say that I love my Yamaha EF2000is. It's a great little generator, and produces quite a bit of power for it's size. I use it for powering lights, an air compressor, and tools. It's pretty quiet too.
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  12. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    That's what I was originally thinking as well.

    Starky:
    I think 2000w would be plenty. I'm looking at toaster ovens, dual burner stoves etc as well. They're around 1300w. Aside from a couple lights I wouldn't think I'd run much more than 1 of those that at a time.
    Have you looked into Unimogs? I'd be using one of them for a chassis if I had the $$$.
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  13. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    I started playing with a new iPad app, iDraw. I hope it helps my planning.

    The Hino box is about 18x8, I used the big boxes to represent 1 foot. My Husky 510 is about 7'1" end to end. I represented 3 full size bikes.


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  14. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Finally got home to measure the box. It's 16 ft. In light of magically losing 2ft, I'll be mounting the chocks near the walls. This will give me a bit more room to work with concerning people space. I'll keep the ability to slide large objects into the centre. The sides are panelled but not insulated. There is E-Track running on the sides for the length of the box. Very nice. :) I found some E-track rings to tie the bikes down. I'll do some searching as well. Maybe the track will be more useful. :)

    I picked up a cheap wood stove for the Hino. Online reviews say it needs a couple mods in order to work well.
    1.) Bend the front latch so door seals. Cost: Free
    2.) Change chimney from 2.5" to 4" so it will draft properly. Cost: Free. (Finally an advantage to knowing where to find 4" sched 10!)
    I'm not sure how I'll incorporate it into the design yet. I'm sure it'll need a meter or so of space. I't will be easily removable at any rate.

    Next trip home will allow me to mess with the stove and mount the moto wheel chocks.
    Need to start combing classifieds for cheap shelves too.

    I was hoping to do some stuff last weekend. Moto trailer shit itself in regards to the lights though. They had all stopped working on the Christmas trip to Baja. I tore out all the old wiring and installed some new submersible LED lights. While it was in the garage I also took off some rust and coated some parts with Tremclad and a liberal dose of rock guard. I consider it practice for what needs to be done to the front of the Hino. :D

    The fuel tank is small on this truck. Adding fuel capacity with a larger tank is expensive. Yellow gas cans are cheap and mobile. Guess which way I went.

    I'd still like to throw some belly boxes under it. They seem to be expensive to acquire as well. The search continues.
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  15. OffRoadCruiser

    OffRoadCruiser Been here awhile

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    As we are finding out solar panels are very expensive the choice depends on the intended use. If you are planning to live full-time in the Hino then solar panels with all that flat roof area make sense.

    If the camper will be for weekends and 2 week trips then a generator will be much more cost effective.

    Your Hino has lots of room under the box beside the frame to permanently mount a generator.

    Since you are into ice racing I would still haul a generator even with solar panels just for a back-up.

    I have thought about adding solar panels to my toy trailer and use them to power some circuits in the house when parked in the driveway just to cut down on the electric bill but the ROI may not be too good.

    Have fun with your build.
    Carl
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  16. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Thanks. I've pretty much ruled out solar panels. As you mentioned, the ROI is not there.

    There is a lot of space between the frame. I'm not sure if/how to utilize that space. I wouldn't put a gen set there. Difficult to fuel, vibration could be a problem and I'd need to route a bunch of exhaust. A 50' extension cord makes more sense to me.

    Any other ideas for that space?
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  17. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    I went for a trike ride today. It was a ton of work. It goes good on hard pack snow but sinks up to the fenders in loose stuff. After pulling it out a few times I almost learned my lesson. :rofl

    So, the 350X got put away. It's finally a reasonable temp to work on Mr. Hino. I had a pile of bling in it waiting for my attention.

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    Firstly, I drilled a bunch of holes into it. She's no longer a virgin. :sweeti

    The holes were for the bike chocks. I have a 3 motorcycle trailer that I've been using for a couple years. I used it as a start for the layout. The idea got modified a bit being that I can't stagger them like on the trailer; at least not without using my space inefficiently.

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    Instead of staggering them, I installed the chocks facing opposite directions. The box is 8' 2" on the inside. I should have about 1' of space behind each full size dirt bike.

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    Here is the chock with a 21" wheel in it:


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    The box has this stuff called E-Track running along the sides. Princess Auto carries accessories for this stuff. There are rings which I'm hoping will work to tie the bikes in place.

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    And some other curious looking mounts that appear to be saddles for 2x4s. They might work really well to hold up a bunk or a counter/work bench. Being removable will be very advantageous when I need to use the truck for other things.


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    I started to clean out the cab as well. It's in dire need of seat covers. :eek1

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    A friend of mine has some lumber to share with me. I'll be picking that up on my next days off. I'll try to piece together some sort of bunk for the front. I'm still looking for other ideas concerning shelving, power and if I want water plumbed in.
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  18. AteamNM

    AteamNM Wonna Be ADVrider

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    ^^^^^

    And, the finished product?
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  19. EduardoMas

    EduardoMas Spartan Overlander

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    DEEDS,
    How much did you load that trailer? 3 two stroke dirt bikes, 3 Goldwings?
    I just bought the same trailer and wander how much weight it can handle.
    PM if you want so I don't hijack this Hino thread.

    Cheers!
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  20. muddyrabbit

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    Check the load rating on the tires, subtract weight of trailer for a good estimate.
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