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Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by jollydropdraws, Jun 21, 2017.
Is there a better Nav system than the Nav VI? Are all the little niggles worth IT?
Depends on how important the wonder-wheel bike integration/information screen on the NAV Vl is to you.
Agreed. Other than the WW and the fact that it brings so much info about the bike into easy view, my $200 phone is a better navigation system in every way.
Edit: Curvy Roads is nice but there's prob a phone app for that too.
I prefer the Garmin 64 on a RAM mount. It can do everything I need.
It's great today. Tomorrow something with more bling will be released....I'm holding out for the iPhone 69s
I use a custom android tablet which offers me nearly any navigation software I want, as well as live traffic and other options. There's always something out there for everyone's personal nuances.
I use my BMW Nav units on other bikes that I've equipped with the cradle. I probably ride with it on my 1290R or KLR as much as the 1200GS and every time I ride, I'm reminded of what a real inconvenience it is to not have WW control over the zoom and other features. Especially the zoom feature is almost a show stopper by how often I feel the need to zoom out for perspective on my route, then back in to get detailed road/turn info. So I put the WW control of my GPS as a feature worth the price of admission. Poking at the GPS with gloved fingers doesn't work that well and takes too much attention off the ride.
So very, very true.
Do you feel better now? I hope so because it didn't add anything to the discussion here and it would be a shame if your effort was wasted.
A) I've got way more than $19K invested in my bike; and B) not fussing with things while riding was the whole point of my post. With the WW it is a tiny fraction of the distraction involved if I have to poke at with my finger.
And WTF with the first world comment. Because I want to get the best use out of my expensive GPS means that I don't care about starving kids in Africa? Perhaps you can explain what point you were making, if there was one.
Back on topic, if you don't care how easy it is to use the GPS or if it integrates at all with the function of the bike, then there are other great choices out there. If those things are important, then this is it for your BMW.
I had a Nav V on my last GS Adventure with WW. It was indeed convenient. Nowadays I no longer have the bike or the Nav V but as I still like to see the big picture alongside the route I am following, I often just mount another cheap phone on the bars with it zoomed out to my liking. I also have it set to North-up whereas I use the phone I actually navigate with set to follow the track/route.
I'm going through this decision process myself right now. Totaled my XR and now have new GS. Didn't buy the Nav VI with it. $950? Ugh.
I'm still on the fence.
I've been trying to use Scenic on my iPhone 7+. Every ride for last 3 attempts I've ended up turning it off and following my buddies. Learning curve? Maybe.
On the bike I think the Nav is better.
The WW works. I can zoom in and out easily, which I do a lot. Out for where am I, in for what's next. Poking keys on the phone doesn't always work. Sometimes takes more than 1 keystroke. Not reliable. If you get off route it's easy to zoom out and figure out where you are.
The Nav displays next intersection cross street when not following a route. Easy to see. Sometimes I'm just looking for a certain road.
The road names on the Nav are much easier to read. My old eyes can't read the road names on the map on the phone. Maybe I am just used to it, but I find the Nav info much easier to see.
Where the Nav is mounted makes it easy to see. Probably could mount the phone there, but then poking it would be harder and harder to see further away. Don't have to poke the Nav as often because of wheel.
The Nav locks into the cradle. Don't have to take it with me on stops.
I get routes (gpx) from friends, usually made with basecamp. The maps the phone uses is different, garmin vs osm. This has caused issues. Rare, but it happens.
The Nav automatically records tracks. I don't have to tell it to. They are in the archive file. I can see where I went two weeks ago. On phone it can record but you have to tell it to and manage the files. I don't always remember that.
No doubt the phones work well for some folks. I've come to the conclusion they use the gps in different ways than me.
I agree the $950 is too much. But, it just works.
And it's the only one that just works - at least fully - with the bike's controls. I guess when it's the only game in town you pay a premium for it.
I know LD rally riders that ride with multiple GPSs in view in front of them. I agree that provides some nice flexibility in what you can see/do while still navigating but I don't think that would be any cheaper to implement. I have a 6+ iPhone and the display is large enough to be useful. I have it in a LifeProof case that's weather proof so that's not so much a problem. But I ride a lot in places with no cell coverage and that makes it much less useful.
Apps like scenic have offline maps. Cell coverage not an issue with it.
And a $900 iPhone is a bargain? What tech you pay. Wish my bike had the WW. The new Tft system on 2018 is the next level allowing you to use your phone. I use my phone in my car thorough apple play and in rentals but not on my bike. Ideally a Garmin devise with Apple play would be ideal for all to allow the must be connected crowd to have all on the bike. This way the phone could sit safely in the topcase.
You could always get a couple of $50 rugged android phones and work with offline maps... They don't need cell coverage.
Where does one find these $50 rugged android phones? Can they be submerged in water while being charged on the go? Everything on my bike is ready to take a dip in a gnarly water crossing. A Nav IV, V, VI all meet that criteria as does my LifeProof encased 6+.
I find the rugged unlocked droid phones with no cell service on craigs list.
My iPhone 7+ was $750. But you make a good point.
cellular service is not needed