AltRider Crash Bars - Fit 2012 1200 GS ??

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  1. ThruTraffic

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    I want a set of AltRider Crash Bars for my new 2012 BMW R 1200 GS Triple Black. I went to their site and found the following review on their Web page.

    http://www.altrider.com/altrider-crash-bars-for-the-bmw-r-1200-gs/pid/713
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    "I have a 2012 GS that needs crash bars. The AltRider bars looked to be the best choice and came highly recommended by my local BMW dealer. The problem is they don't fit! I contacted AltRider before buying these crash bars asking if they will fit the 2012model. The answer I got was "we have not been informed of any changes..." Another words; let the buyer find out for himself. After the dealer assured me they will fit I made the purchase only to find out the right side does not fit into the hole it is designed for. I had my son, a mechanical engineer, look at it and he determined the tolerances are too close and did not allow for paint and other variations. After an hour of hand filing and fitting I finally got them on. They look great and seem to be strong and purpose built however this lack of attention to detail is concerning!"

    So I sent AltRider email asking for written confirmation that their bars will fit the 2012. Two weeks later; zero response.

    So I called them. For the life of me I could not get the person I spoke to to say the words "Yes, they will fit the 2012". I couldn't get her to answer me when I asked if they'd actually installed a set on a 2012 yet. 15 minute conversation and nothing but beating around the bush alluding to this and that but they refuse to state yes they will or no they won't fit the 2012 but seem perfectly willing to sell me a set despite knowing if they fit my machine or not.

    Have any of you other 2012 owners purchased these and found them to fit or not? I'm going to order a set and will report here my success/fail to mount them but would like to hear if anyone else has had a similar experience with AltRider?
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  2. eakins

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    says 05 to current. the bike has not changed.
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  3. ThruTraffic

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    I bought a set and was successful in mounting them. However, I ran into the same problem as the person I quoted in my original post. The upper mounting attachment point on the right side is off by ~1/8” to ~1/4”. All of the installation went well until I hit that part and then I spent the next hour loosening other stuff, shaking, twisting, banging with a rubber hammer, etc. to get it together.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Tip; before you install the right side run a tap through the small bolt hole to drive out the black paint BMW filled it with. Also watch the length of the bolt supplied by AltRider for this as it is just a hair too long and comes into contact with the block on my machine.<o:p></o:p>
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    Hey AltRider – I AM NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO REINSTALLING THESE THINGS AFTER EVERY TIME I TAKE IT TO THE SHOP FOR SERVICE!!!<o:p></o:p>
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    I have a couple of photos of the problem but it looks like I don’t have permission to post attachments. I’ll post them if I can figure out why not and get perms.<o:p></o:p>
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    There was also a spot where the black paint had been scraped off. Not a good thing to see come out of the box but given their purpose I let it slide.<o:p></o:p>
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    - They look great<o:p></o:p>
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    - PITA to install<o:p></o:p>
    - Will have to suffer that PITA many times over the life of the machine<o:p></o:p>
    - Overpriced given the PITA
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  4. Okie Preacher

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    The AltRider stuff fits tight, no doubt about it. But with the lower bars I found that it was only the first time on that was a wrestling match. Now I can have them off/on for a valve adjustment in 10 minutes.

    I just installed their new upper bars on my GS on Monday. Same scenario. Same expectations for the second time on them as well.
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  5. ThruTraffic

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    I'm planning a Deadhorse ride for September. Last night I woke up frm a nightmare where I was on the Dalton Highway is nasty conditions and had to pull the valve covers for some reason. I was working through how I was going to get the suspension compressed on my own. Yuck.

    So I just came in from the garage and the valve covers will in fact come off without removing the bars. Kind of a puzzle but they will come off. So I can do valve adjustments on my own and won't have to pull the things when I take it to a dealer.

    Whew

    Okie Preacher: I wrote AltRider asking about the upper bars but as usual they didn't respond. It looks like the upper bar will cause me to have to remove my PIAA light bar. Is that true?



    PS: When I mounted my lowers I threw a chain around my lift deck and a ratchet strap between that and triple tree. Cranked on that ratchet strap and that sucked the suspension towards the lift deck. Sweet.
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  6. Okie Preacher

    Okie Preacher Been here awhile

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    I am surprised to hear that they haven't responded as I have always found their customer service to be quick and helpful. Call 'em and get them on the line...ask for Nick.

    The PIAA bar mounts to one of the frame cross members behind the oil cooler, correct? The AltRider uppers mount a bit forward from there, so I think they might fit--but it will be tight at best.

    I used a pair of light bar clamps from RocketMoto to mount my Krista's to the upper bars. Made for a nice installation and their customer service is STELLAR!

    http://www.rocketmoto.com/index.php/products/gadget-light-mounts/techmount-crashbar-light-mount.html
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  7. ThruTraffic

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  8. banshee

    banshee hi

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    I am purchasing a 2012 1200GS and just got off the phone with Altrider. I called because of that review and my concern that the bars won't fit. The person I talked to did not give me any confidence and was downright dismissive of the issue. Based on that conversation I won't buy their crash bars. It's too bad, I really wanted to. I have Altrider bits on my F800GS but that phone conversation was a real turn-off...
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  9. ThirdBestFriend

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    They definitely fit a 2012 1200GS, I have them on mine — they were an utter bitch to get on though, partly because that bolt that goes through the engine was a complete mofo to get off.
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  10. motomandan

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    I went with Hepco-Becker tanks and cylinder guards on my 2012 triple black. You can remove the tank sidecovers (carefully). I have not tried removing the valve covers yet. It does look like they will come off, again carefully. Easy install, heavy built , offer a lot of protection to the cylinder head.


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  11. birdie_xx

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    Unfortunately every accessory is made for the stock bike, without any add-ons nor modifications. It would be impossible to take into consideration every other accessory out there....I know this from a different line of accessories.

    BTW, when installing any frames on the bike (engine guards, saddlebag mounts..) where two sides are involved, it helps when lot of slack is left at the mounting points. When all is connected together and aligned (sort of) then the tightening may begin, one by one... Maybe that's the reason the bars won't quite fit on one side ?

    I have number of accessories on my '09 GSA and everything fits spot on .

    Cheers
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  12. Wandering Nomad

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    I had a set on my 2011 GS. They are nice bars. Sturdy as hell.
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  13. Bluetru

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    I had my dealer install both the altrider crash bars and the altrider skid plate on my 2012 R1200GS TB. They look great and fit well. NO issues.
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  14. banshee

    banshee hi

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    just like to point out that one of the owners of Altrider contacted me concerned about my previous post in this thread. he said that they DO fit the 2012 and we also cleared the air about other stuff. was nice that they contacted me.

    I am still undecided about crash bars. better figure it out soon, I pick up my new bike next week :clap
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  16. ThruTraffic

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    Your right. Never fully tighten until all bolts are started. I learned that lesson well over ~25 years in the construction trades. The tolerance is off on the right side connector on the bars I received. That's the same connection point others have complained about with these bars.
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  17. super8mm

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    Here are my AltRider bars on my 2012 low GS

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  18. apexal

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    I installed AltRider lower crash bars on my 2011 GS in February. They were easy to install and fit perfectly. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe it helped to watch their video and take it slowly. I really don't care if the bars have to be taken off for valve cover removal but I'll bet that just loosening the bars will be enough to squeeze the covers off the engine.
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  19. ATCguy

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    Got my AltRider upper bar last week... and finally got around to heading down to the garage this morning to see if I could answer this question.

    Short answer... No, it will not fit with the under-beak bar for the PIAA lights.

    That said, it appears that... if I remove the light-bar & install the upper crash bar... there might be enough room to simply move the lights outboard just a bit, and install them on the horizontal part of the upper crash bar just before the bend. Of course, this will require getting some mounting clamps to go around the crash-bar... but it might be doable.

    So I'm holding off on the installation for now while I go looking for clamps that will work
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  20. Zoul

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    Look here ---> Linky I have used the set that's about 3/4 down the page and I was quite happy with them.
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