Am I the first to break a GS WC?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by oz97tj, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. oz97tj

    oz97tj Been here awhile

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    Getting ready to leave for work this evening, I backed the bike out of the garage and started it up. Upon startup, for about 2 seconds, the bike made a horrible rattling noise and then stopped and sounded perfectly normal. In a confused WTF state, I let it idle a bit longer and it continued sounding perfect. I shrugged thinking it was a fluke and reluctantly pulled out of the driveway and off to work. At the end of the subdivision, about 1/2 mile from my house, curiosity got the best of me. I figured I'd shut the bike off and restart it. Upon hitting the starter button, the starter just free wheeled.

    I'm thinking something in the starter let go. The bike has about 220 miles on it. In the end, I turned around and pushed the damn thing back to my house (it was already 10pm and I had to be at work and waiting for road side service would have taken much longer). Tomorrow morning, I'll call to have the bike towed to the dealer. :huh
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  2. mtwillyman

    mtwillyman Lost and Cornfuzed

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    Well at least you didn't get stranded. I'm sure the shop will repair it and you'll be riding soon. Goog luck.
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  3. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Sorry to hear this, let us know what the dealer finds.
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  4. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    What a buzzkill on a brand new bike. Hopefully nothing major, but unfortunately I think you'll be in for a wait for parts.
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  5. oz97tj

    oz97tj Been here awhile

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    This is what im concerned about too. I cant imagine there is a stockpile of parts around yet. Lets hope we are wrong.
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  6. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    That sounds like your starter Bendix (a sprague clutch) is defective. The dealer will likely replace the starter with new.
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  7. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    I'm going to guess that it doesn't use a bendix style starter since it has a wet clutch. It appears to have the same type of starter as the water cooled K series. The starter is geared to a one way clutch and it all runs in oil. Perhaps the starter drive did come apart, though. It's all internal to the engine most likely.
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  8. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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  9. roadtrip22

    roadtrip22 Been here awhile

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    Ask for a loaner bike.. :D
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  10. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Fixed.

    :lol3


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  11. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Please keep us well updated, this is super important.

    It'll be interesting to see why this happened on a brand new bike.

    Also how difficult (or not) it is to get at the starter.

    Stuff happens, but one would assume you could just jump on this bike and ride to Mongolia, that's how it's sold.
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  12. oz97tj

    oz97tj Been here awhile

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    Looking at it further today while loading it on the flatbed, I did notice it has an external starter so it may have the sprag set up. It looks easy enough to pull thw starter off but with only 200 miles ill let the dealer mess with it. They will contact me when they know something.

    As for the rocking back and forth, I tried that. It will not engage the engine no mater what I did.

    Regarding a loaner, I just got home with this...
    [​IMG]

    I just traded in an oiler for a waterhead and im back on an oil cooled anyway. Lol
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  13. simoneau

    simoneau Biker/Adventurer/Retired Engineer

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  14. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    Are you saying the engine has to be disassembled to remove starter, or only if the sprag clutch is broken... please elaborate? Are you a tech?
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  15. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    He is saying that if there is a choice between simple and complicated engineering, BMW will chose complicated every time.
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  16. marchyman

    marchyman DR and GS

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    The starter bolts onto the right rear of the engine. It's that black thing in this image:

    [​IMG]

    But... the one-way clutch sits on the end of the crank. It is not part of the starter. Look at http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=0A11&mospid=55471&btnr=11_5167&hg=11&fg=26 if the next image doesn't show up.

    [​IMG]
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  17. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    He's saying quite simply if it's not the starter gear and one of the internal gears it engages the engine has to be taken apart to fix it.

    What gets me is when you buy a new vehicle and it breaks....you are still making payments for that vehicle....you should get a loaner of exactly the same vehicle or better.

    I'd keep a keen eye on the timeline for this in case it goes to Lemon Law.
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  18. oz97tj

    oz97tj Been here awhile

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    Oh good. You are full of good news. Ugh. Lets hooe its just in the starter...


    Yup ive been thinking this too. I certainly hooe it doesnt come to that but with only 200 miles I dont intend to let this go easily. As for the loaner, they originally wanted to give me an 800s. I politely made it clear that wasnt acceptable and ended up with the GSA which im content with.
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  19. Callisto224

    Callisto224 Long timer

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    Good for you because you will probably be living with it for a long time! If you're in Fenton, did you go to Canton or Sterling Heights? (Hopefully Canton, those guys are great but either way it's a long ways away.)

    Good luck and let us know what happens. :huh
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  20. GSAragazzi

    GSAragazzi Long timer

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    Loaner?!?!??! :huh
    I wish my dealership offered a loaner:deal

    It's the first time I've ever heard of this! Here in Dallas they would give me a weird look, a smirk and a laugh if I ever "suggested" 4 a loaner.
    Cheers
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