Amateur Radio Operator/ Dual Sporter

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by bluedog52, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. bluedog52

    bluedog52 Been here awhile

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    Just getting started in ham radio. Picked up a Chinese baofeng radio , external mic , and antenna. Dusted off a copy of the ARRL Ham Radio License Manual. still studying so I can take test. Just started last night listening to Al, KE6LG, I hope that's right on the net K6JSI REPEATER 147.210 MHZ and channel surfing. Learning the band ply for 2 meter and 70cm and just practicing writing down contacts while listening to the nets. I also have the ARRL repeater directory 2011/2012 edition picked it up when I thought I was serious, it happens.

    Just curious any serious hams that ride and are wiling to mentor in local area? I'm a stones throw from Bedford Canyon Road, Corona.
    Quick question can I lock out the mick as to not inadvertently key inon my baofang uv-5r v2+? A little paranoid about doing this when maneuvering the radio and mic for better reception, this feeling of balancing a carton of eggs on top of groceries while walking up an ice covered drive with one peg leg.
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  2. ramjet

    ramjet Long timer

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    Not down in your area now although I grew up there. Check out a local Ham Radio Outlet for some help or join a local Ham Radio group. Lot's of Ham groups on the web too, yahoo.groups, etc.
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  3. bluedog52

    bluedog52 Been here awhile

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    Just moved here 2 years ago from orange county HB area. Seen all the open trails and got back into riding again I wouldn't have if we hadn't moved. Thought It would be better to find someone with more than one common interest. The adventure bike and ham radio to me just seem to go together. You know climb to the top of your favorite peak that's accessible and see who and how far away you can make a new contact while relaxing, recouping, taking in your surrounds. Limited time to fit in both diversions without taking away from my riding :wave
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  4. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    wish you're closer.

    got my radio tech license, K K 6 H V V.. not too long ago. i have a ht and mobile radio. still learning how to use both radios. too many buttons, knobs, menu and functions.

    a group of san diego riders has been using comm when they ride. locally, haven't found anyone interested as much as you are.

    my next investment is get a helmet kit from mckenzie's ...http://helmetkits.com/


    in the future, i would like to see more of us using comms and having a dedicated channel.
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  5. mr. thumbs

    mr. thumbs Long timer

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    I got their radio and kit. Well worth the money but your riding buddy's have to have them too.
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  6. ramjet

    ramjet Long timer

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    Yeah, and so many places we ride through or end up you just can't hit a repeater or no line of sight for simplex. Certainly nothing in Death Valley. Definitely not reliable for emergency use. But I often take my HT with me on longer trips.
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  7. GoBigGuy

    GoBigGuy n00b

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    Everything you ever want to know about that radio is here. http://www.miklor.com and here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baofeng_uv5r/info


    Be sure to get programming software called Chirp and a programming cable (both detailed on the site above) and you can load up repeaters easily. Don't worry too much about accidentally transmitting, most repeaters need PL tones anyway, which you will learn more about if you have not already.

    For exam prep checkout http://hamexam.org
    I used it for a couple of evenings before the test and pass tech and general.

    You also might enjoy the outdoor adventure net on the Keller peak repeater, more info here http://www.kpra.net/nets.html


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  8. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    There is a fun net Thursday evenings on the Keller Peak repeater. The gang at OAUSA also has meet 'n greets, has HAM testing and stuff like that. It is mostly a 4x4 crowd, but there are a few of us moto guys there as well.

    Check out www.OAUSA.net for info.

    73s
    KI6BCA
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  9. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    GBG,

    Missed this until after my post (also recommending the OAUSA net). Do you check in on the OAUSA net regularly?
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  10. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    Most of the safety benefit from comms are rider-to-rider. We use them a LOT and I strongly prefer to ride with others using the system.
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  11. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Maybe we need to agree on an "official" South Western AdvRider simplex frequency.
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  12. bluedog52

    bluedog52 Been here awhile

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    Was listening to the Keller repeater last night the swap net. I was able to get 5 solid contacts written down and of course Kirks k6vfo San Bernardino. Will be listening to knight if there's no problems. There was some problems last night on another repeater 147.210 k6jsi I think that's the call sign that's what I have written down. they were switching over to 70cm specific band cmc something. I scanned 70 cm nothing so gave up. In my repeater book that I use while listening for finding out band play I only have eme (earth to moon) cmc = com to com? I may have missed the simplex frequency for cmc or am I completely lost? Anyways getting a kick trying to write my contacts down and then cross referencing with band play to see where the correspond. Question are the + or - shifts the same for 70cm as in 2 meter .600 kHz? Whats the correct stepping for 2meter 10 or 16hz, whats the stepping for 70cm, 25hz?

    I order the cable/software at the same time I bought the radio, 8'' Nagoya whip ante. and mic off amazon cable/software is being shipped from china. It was a suggested purchases for current item thing. Looking back at it looks to be for the uv5r uv3r+ my radio is uv-5rv v2+ I order just the uv-5r model!? Oh well I can manually enter repeaters as I find them that's half the fun. Is that all the cables used for to program stations?

    Just ordered a rubberized case, 16'' whip and a magnetic mobile 24'' Cheap probably wasting my money all in so far less than 150. I'll stop and get better educated till then. I should be picking up a new rear tire $ or I'll be hobbling up the mountain on foot.

    I'll be listening in tonight, night before last after a net I heard Mike I think in HB didn't catch his call sign but he was testing a similar rig as mine with and with out the external hand mic his contact couldn't tell any difference but on my end his signal sounded stronger with external mic I assume getting your radio at an arms reach away from your body up in the air makes a difference? My frustration, anxious to get my license.
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  13. RandyM

    RandyM Less talk, More ride

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    I have not run into anyone riding with a ham radio but they would be great for bike-to-bike. I tried a FTM-10SR on my Vstrom and DR350 but ended up mostly using it as an FM radio receiver. I suggest not trying to make random contacts while riding since it takes up too much attention, especially if the other guy has a poor signal.

    FYI there is a Motorcycling Amateur Radio Club in Orange County: http://marc-hq.org/pages/homepage.htm They do some volunteer communication and moto support for bicycle and foot races. They also have a lot of info on their website relating to hooking up a mobile radio to a moto. They have proposed a worldwide motorcycle mobile simplex frequency on 144.370 MHz, PL 100.0 I might be a good choice for us to use. I have monitored this freq a little but never heard any thing on it.
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  14. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Thanks for that info.

    OAUSA,net has a net on vehicle repair tonight at 7:30p on the Keller Peak repeater.
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  15. Kendrick

    Kendrick Been here awhile

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    I have my ticket (KI6CGL), and got it mostly because of the somewhat remote 4x4 trips I was going on. CB and FRS is so lackluster in comparison to a group with VHF/UHF capabilities. I sometimes ride solo and will bring my HT and repeater guide (also ride with a SPOT) as a 'just in case'.

    Back in 2010 I was on 1N54 (Clarks Grade) and got clipped by a jeep coming down trail way too fast. I opted to punch into the upslope side rather than plunging off the edge. The resulting impact left me with a badly fractured and dislocated shoulder. The jeep drove off.

    No cell service....and at that time of year, hardly anybody out and about. But with one good hand, I managed to raise an old-timer listening to the local repeater. I gave him my GPS location and my brother's cell phone number (he lives in Big Bear). It took about 2-3 hours, but he and my sister in law made it to me. She drove me out and to the hospital, and he rode my Super Enduro. Totally hilarious because he doesn't really ride and his feet don't touch the ground on that bike. Scared the hell out of him trying to get back to the road.

    Long story short. Being licensed and having a radio saved me a lot of misery that day.
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  16. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Good story!!! Glad you're ok!
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  17. mrchristian

    mrchristian Been here awhile

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    Hey everyone,

    Funny timing for this thread to pop up. I've been playing around with CB for a while now (cheap Uniden + Wilson 1000 on my truck) and had a lot of fun with it (CB has a negative rep, but I have found there are lots of cool hobbyist and 4x4 types around Simi / SFV) . I hear all the time that the Ham bands are much better, though. My CB is pretty much useless during the day unless its car to car. I used to listen to shortband a little as a kid (had a little Grundig portable...miss those days).

    Realistically, how much range would I be able to get with one of those cheap Baofeng radios? Would it be possible to go from West SF Valley to Simi Valley (20 miles with some hills)? My friends and I ride dual sports and it would be cool to have a few of these for desert and trail riding in case we get split up or something breaks.

    I hear repeaters mentioned a lot - how exactly do these work? Would it be OK to order one of these radios and just listen on it without a license?

    How much would I have to study to get my tech license? I'll do it regardless, just want to know how much time I should set aside to learn everything in the next couple weeks.
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  18. xmasons

    xmasons not a n00b

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    Simple answer: probably not. Similar to the FRS radios you may frequently see, radios generally work line-of-sight. If there are trees, hills, and mountains in the way, you're going to have difficulties.

    A repeater does just that: it repeats. A repeater is usually located on top of a high point, such as a tall building or hill. This allows communication over greater distances due to a higher antenna.

    You do not need to have your ticket to listen to the radio. However, do not touch that transmit button, that's where you'd get in trouble until you get your license. That said, go ahead and get your ticket. It's easy and inexpensive to do.

    Enrolling in an all day ham cram allows you to study the questions and take the test on the same day and get your results immediately. Usually costs about $15 for the whole thing.
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  19. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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  20. boney

    boney Ride > Post

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    There are a few repeaters up on Oat Mt. I think they can get into Simi and they cover the SF Valley well.
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