an Airhead here is not an Airhead there

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Kamakura Kid, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. Kamakura Kid

    Kamakura Kid Been here awhile

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    I may end up joining the ranks of HD V-Rod owners. Doing some research in the V-Rod associated fora, it appears the term "Airhead" in that world is a derogatory word used to describe air-cooled HD owners whom turn their noses up at the V-Rod as "not a real Harley." Probably the same chowderheads that say the same thing about Sporties.
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  2. fishkens

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    Is that the same crowd that says "Loud pipes save lives"? That "helmets cause riders to overheat and crash"? That "helmets limit peripheral vision and cause people to crash"? The one's that call the place for the pillion the "bitch seat"? etc.?

    "Airhead" in the BMW lexicon was a self-deprecating jab at our simple, old ways, it seems that "Airhead" in the Harley lexicon may be a well-deserved pejorative.

    p.s. Don't delay with pics and stories of the V-Rod.:clap
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  3. Hawk Medicine

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  4. bmwrench

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  5. mark1305

    mark1305 Old Enough To Know Better

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    First off, I'm of the school that it doesn't matter what you ride, as long as your ride (except for the asshats that bought that facial expression with their H-D that looks more like "my prostate exam is hurting more than I thought" - the ones that bought the so called lifestyle.

    But, anyway, with regard to the V-Rod thing. One of my good friends from when I worked out at the Port, and lives in my subdivision has had a Road King or whatever for a good while. His wife (who by some weird coincidence graduated high school with my GF) got interested in bikes and picked up a good deal on a mildly customized Sporty. After a few rides with their regular group where they might run down and do a lap around Lake Okeechobee, she felt that the Sporty was straining to keep up with the "big" Harleys. So she found a great deal on a V-Rod and traded the Sporty. Her husband got around to riding her V-Rod and next thing you know, he trades his big ole air cooled genuine H-D on a V-Rod.

    Traditional or not, those bikes have something going for them.

    I'm not a BMW snob, I just happen to own two quite different ones right now. But BMW is going through the same kinds of issues with its loyal following. The market is changing. The ridership is changing (aging). There are new/more/younger riders out there that all motorcycle manufacturers want and need to capture. New technology is necessary for that and to meet new and future emissions constraints.

    Even without my degree in psychology, I can tell you that human nature resists change. Even if its good. (There will always be a percentage that seek change, but lots resist it).


    So back to the V-Rod bashing..... I don't think the H-D dealers sell that lifestyle scowly face with that bike. :D For some good reasons. It's a good bike. Just new and different.

    Just ride what you got and smile for doG's sake.

    Philosophizing over.....
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  6. Kamakura Kid

    Kamakura Kid Been here awhile

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    I take delivery this Sunday.:norton

    I'll post some pix, but its a dead stock 2002 base model. Silver/brushed aluminum finish.

    This is my muse. Except I'm keeping the stock rear tire width, and use a more neighbor-friendly pipe. Maybe even use a "Goose Replica" fairing. Note the position of the foot controls. SWEET!:

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    More pics here of my muse:

    http://ttandco.com/hp/gallery/gallery-bigtwincustom/index.php?page=2

    You have to scroll down to the bottom of the page to find the V-Rod, then click on them five gobbledygook red characters followed by a >> belwo the V-Rod pic.

    Here's the pipe I'm planning on using. Pretty much a JN ripoff of a Supertrapp or WP disk system. Scroll to the bottom of the linked webpage to find the V-Rod Internal system.

    http://www.motorstage.co.jp/products/vrsc/vrsc-v-speed

    Of course, everything subject to change due to whim and/or cash flow.
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  7. Jasper ST4

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    V-Rods are great bikes, I wouldn't care who called what what. Lots of bikes are airheads. Lots of Harley riders are too.:wink:

    My brother had one and when visiting I rode it with him on the back (about 180 lbs) I was the seasoned rider. The motor is nothing short of amazing. It's like a rheostat, just twist the throttle in any gear anytime.

    The mileage range is probably too short, tank looks small and I'd rather have the ole beemer in the mountains, so it isn't my cup of tea.
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  8. fishkens

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    Congratulations!

    Two measly thoughts:
    - not too loud now :D
    - the saddle on your muse looks a little bulky to my eyes. It would be nice to reduce some of the bulk, especially in the back hump.

    Enjoy.
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  9. jtwind

    jtwind Wisconsin Airhead

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    just consider the source!!!
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  10. blaine.hale

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    Your knees have to be jammed into your chest to use those foot pegs, right?
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  11. Kamakura Kid

    Kamakura Kid Been here awhile

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    When I get my V-Rod, I'll post a couple pics. Nothing remarkable other than Japanese plates, though. A V-rod really belongs in Road Warriors, but since its an extension of this topic which started here, I'll do so in this thread. No flaming, please.

    Once I start modding the thing, though, I'll shift to RW for a project thread.

    I really know nothing about the bike. I understand the gas tank looking thingie is just a cover, the tank itself is under the seat. I have no idea what the capacity is, but unlike the US and other countries, you are never too far away from a gas station in Japan.

    Glad to hear it is such a sweet engine! The mill is designed by Porsche, since HD didn't have the requisite skills as it aptly proved with the whole VR debacle. I have a buddy here in Japan whom is really urging me to get into the Porsche world here, but the price of entry is a bit too steep for me. Much like the M-B 500e, with the V-Rod I can go to Porsche meetings and such as a fringe hanger-on. Awesome! M-B 500e has a Porsche emblem on the steering wheel, I'm going to have to stick an emblem on the engine somewhere.

    Yeah, them rearset pegs are designed for the average Japanese riders, I'll have to experiment with various placements to find a comfy spot. Between Ohira-san of Little Wing Engineering and Daisuke-san of Animal Boat (the two shops are next door to each other), fabrication is not going to be a problem. Its gonna be neat seeing a V-Rod parked amongst a bunch of old American and Japanese bikes.
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    just remember u have to drop the whole engine to adjust the valves every 5k. $500-700 at the stealers.
    great engine, looks great and sounds great. poor reviews in the handling dept.
    good luck with your new ride.
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  13. Kamakura Kid

    Kamakura Kid Been here awhile

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    Good to know. Thanks!
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  14. Waco

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    Were Airheads called Airheads before they came out with the Oilhead? Or were they just called boxers?
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  15. bmwrench

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    They were called boxers. And before K-Bikes, they were called BMWs.
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    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

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    I name all my bikes...My airhead, (R80 G/S), is called Paris. 'Nuff said.

    Good luck with the V-Rod. Luv em! Good mate here bought one just last week.
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    A motorcycle with a radiator is like a mule with a spinning wheel...

    JK enjoy the bike, are there places in japan to get past 3rd gear?? : )
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  18. Kamakura Kid

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    Not that many, actually. Surface roads are narrow, crowded, and have way too many stoplights. Especially in the Tokyo/Yokohama metropolitan area where I live. Over the course of a few trips I calculated an average speed made good of 12kph.

    Expressways are not only rigorously patrolled and monitored, but uber-expensive, even with the weekend half price discount if you have the electronic toll collection system. No discount for cash. If you go over 30kph past the limit, you're gambling with your license for a month or so. More than 50kph over, you are pretty much toast, HUGE fine and losing your license for a year. Speaking of expressway speed limits, 80kph in metro areas, 100kph in the countryside.

    In the summer months, there is a mass exodus of Japanese motorcyclists to the northernmost island of Hokkaido. Low population density, lots of long straight roads. Kind of a pseudo-US, if you will. The place has a bunch of cheap lodgings specifically designed for motorcyclists, frequently offering inside parking for the bikes.
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  19. edray

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    That must explain the arty aspect of custom motorcycle design in Japan?? from the super cool Ritmo Sereno airheads to the very cool minimalistic hipster HD bobber scene.
    I'm a big fan of both.
    Concept vs. Reality. Design over Function.
    Visceral.
    Cool.
    Would be nice to crank them up though..
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    If you go over 30kph past the limit, you're gambling with your license for a month or so. More than 50kph over, you are pretty much toast, HUGE fine and losing your license for a year. Speaking of expressway speed limits, 80kph in metro areas, 100kph in the countryside.

    Welcome to Australia! Except here, you lose your bike as well. Arseholes!:puke1
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