Another alternator hits the dust and not under warranty

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  1. JRWooden

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    I'm certain the Electrosport stator is not encapsulated either ..........
    but from the picture on their website it does seem to be different in design details!

    Not sure how BMW's supplier does it, but the company I worked for at one time, did it under vacuum in order to get full "impregnation" (not motorcycle stators ... transformers) .. which is expensive..............
  2. Emmbeedee

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    Well when we get a few extra bucks, we'll buy a spare just in case they only last a year. It's only a half hour job to change it, if necessary.

    I wonder if I could put the quick disconnect, or something similar, inside the engine cover? That way I could get the changing down to 15 minutes. :evil
  3. JRWooden

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    I just wish it was smaller and lighter ... I really don't mind changing it out that much, but my "tool kit" is starting to get unmanageably large and heavy............... :lol3

    As an emergency measure do you suppose we could use one of those bicycle-headlight-generators that rub on the sidewall of the tire? :wink:
  4. Emmbeedee

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    As long as you catch the problem on time - it has to be moving to generate with one of those.
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    When I put that thing on I just did it because I'm an engineer and I like "instrumentation"
    ... now ... I consider it a necessity... :lol3

    If you like, I have a paper template for making the little bracket ... PM me your postal address and I'll send you a 100% sized photocopy of the mouting bracket template.
    It won't be "exact" but it will save you a lot of time if you want to mount it like I did....
  8. WayneC

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    Afraid I have never been a fan of displays like that in either electronics or auto fields. These is more they dont tell you than what they do tell you
  9. Emmbeedee

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    Our new stator from RMStator.com.

    [​IMG]

    It's amazing how much it looks like the "High Output" stator sold for more than twice the price for the DR.

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  10. JRWooden

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    is it my imagination or does the bottom unit have more turns of a smaller gauge wire per pole?
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    two different stators.....look at the color of sleve on leads
  12. Emmbeedee

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    Of course they're different, the Suzuki one also has terminals and molded plugs in place. But they might have come from the same original source.
  13. MikeMike

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    You can get that at any Motorrad parts counter without even having to ask for it.
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    You do pay for it, though.
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    Yep!
    And if you pay full pop for the alternator at Motorrad prices, you'll feel like a surrogate Octo-Mom!
  16. JRWooden

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    :lol3
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    Yeah.... I was groping for reasons to explain why the two otherwise similar units had a huge price differential ... finer wire of higher quality with more turns taking more machine time and higher materials cost ... oh yeah and the three laminations in the center that were made from dilithium ?

    Me know know... :1drink
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    I don't think there's much difference in the coils or wire gauge. No idea why the price is so different except they're being sold by different vendors.
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    gotta be the dilithium ... :freaky
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    There are a couple of ways you could look at the lack of epoxy on those stators, dont know which is fight

    First outlook would be that the stator could dissipate heat faster since there is no epoxy to hold the heat in

    The second is that the stator coils are more exposed to the heat of the oil in the crankcase and the oil would burn the insulation faster and the stator fail faster

    So to the question :- Is the excessive heat generated within the stator or being induced from external temperatures into the stator