Another Natl Monument in Utah !!

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  1. dmac1

    dmac1 Long timer

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    They're at it again! This time all the land surrounding Canyonlands is being requested that it be turned into a National Monument.

    https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/...p-on-massive-national-monument-pushed-in-utah

    Note that they blame US for part of why this needs to be done:


    "...exploding off-road vehicle use that is damaging riparian areas, cultural sites, soils and solitude."

    http://www.delalbright.com/Access/Canyonlands%20letter.pdf

    Is this how we want things to be done? With no public input? Just a letter to the President? What will be next...the Swell? Did you notice the names of the 113 outdoor retailers behind this push. Check the list at the bottom of this letter!

    Word has it that Aaron Ralston has teamed up with SUWA too. Nice huh? Lets see...he drove his truck to the damn trailhead and was going to ride his mtn bike back to it. He musta hit his head too in his fall.
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    TheDudeAbides Sarcasm free11/11/10

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    He's a dickwad IMHO.

    And it makes me want to seriously boycott the hypocrite business that lent their names to this. They make a boat load of money off of people like us riding and mountian biking and camping on the very land they hope to "protect" form people like us.
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  3. dmac1

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    100% right! Unfortunately I already have gear from many of the companies. One company that is not on the list is REI. Perhaps they've changed their policies?

    Anyway, unless you want retailers determining the status of our public lands, suggest as many of us as possible use the letter writing link, write our own letter or make a phone call as Blue Ribbon suggests (see their Important Follow-up).

    In case you don't have time to find it, here is the link that will generate a letter to president obama. Takes all of 20 seconds.
    https://secure3.convio.net/arra/sit...&id=409&JServSessionIdr004=tsl6s64a52.app331a
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  6. Gordy

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    Done..... and I'm contacting a few of the companies listed that I used to buy from.

    You have to do that guys. These companies only understand dollars.
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    _Magoo_ master of disaster....

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    Done, we need to spread the word on this---
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  8. wbbnm

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    I am strongly opposed to any more limitations on places we can ride. I have done a few rides in areas adjacent to Canyonlands the last few years especially the area west of Blanding. This is a fantastic area to ride. It would be tragic to see any more limitations placed on it.

    I would like to have more knowledge. I could not find a map of the proposed new proposed national monument in any of the links cited by the OP. Anyone have a link to a map?
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  9. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55270711-78/monument-national-utah-canyonlands.html.csp
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    Signed it and spread it across a few FB motorcycle-related pages (Touratech's page being #1)
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    doc_ricketts Thumper jockey

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    Sending a letter to the Pres and the retailers is good, but I think it might be helpful to get former Utah governor (and GOP presidental candidate) Jon Huntsman, Jr. to talk to Obama. Huntsman is an offroad moto rider and I am sure he rides in this area.
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  12. Narsisco Lopez

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    Out of all of those guys, Huntsman was the most sane (must be the fact he's a moto rider).

    But, the idea of an ADV letter to all the companies on that list that we can all sign is also a very good idea. Sure beats emailing all of them manually. If we have an attorney present, maybe we can get you to draft a letter. I'm a software developer and can probably crank out a webpage to collect "signatures" and then automate the sending process. After a decent number of sigs have been collected, we could shoot it off to Huntsman AND all the companies.
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  13. PrairieRider

    PrairieRider Gearing down for Hell

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    Did you see that New Belgium is on that list of businesses?

    It seems that they regard recreating as something that can only be done on foot or in a raft. :norton
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  14. jjustj

    jjustj cum petris et choris

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    to several of business listed awaiting reply and boycotts do work well if based on correct info!
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    crjdirt Been here awhile

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    Obama got my 2 cents
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    jjustj cum petris et choris

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    found your name listed on the following.
    http://www.delalbright.com/Access/Canyonlands letter.pdf if this is correct that you support this and NOT reponsible OHV use please let me know ASAP> i support only businesses that believe that there is room for all responsible users. Immediate response requested. Many friends go to Moab and we have a choice in where we eat! thanks, no response and I will assume your beliefs are different. You are entitled to your opinions .My dollars and those of my friends are spent where we feel they are wanted. Thanks
    J sheets
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    I think bicycle gets the majority of their support. But yes I did notice them on the list and it just gives me more reason to continue to go to Odell.
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  18. COXR650L

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    I just sent a letter to New Belgum also....

    I would be all in for some kind of letter writting campaign to the companies that supported this.

    If there are any wordsmiths who can write a form letter I can add a petition on my webpage (dubinky.com) to collect signatures and then take care of sending the letters with all the signatures to each of the companies:ear Any opposition?
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  19. Narsisco Lopez

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    Whether or not you believe PODUS has the authority is beside the point. The point is PODUS CAN use the Antiquities Act to do so. Let's focus on getting voices of opposition heard.
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  20. dmac1

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    Agreed, but whats your point? Clinton did it with Grand Staircase-Escalante. If you are implying it isn't a big deal, or thinking Obama won't do it, I think you are being naiive.
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