Another reason to always give yourself an "out"

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by eric2, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. braindigitalis

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    There, i fixed it for you :clap
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  2. der_saeufer

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    Sure, and the pickup driver will almost certainly be paying all the damage because it was his poor driving that caused the crash.

    But that doesn't change the fact that the blue car could've prevented the wreck by getting the hell out of the travel lane.

    It's always better NOT to get hit, even if it's someone else's fault. This is especially true for us motorcyclists, and you notice that the motorcyclists in this video did get the hell out of the travel lane.

    I look both ways before proceeding on a green light. Clearly it's the other guy's fault if he runs it and hits me, but I'm the one who ends up in the hospital or morgue.
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  3. Rango

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    Paying respect for the dead by endangering the living. :dunno



    Ain't there some food for thought in that? :hmmmmm
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  4. Offcenter

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    ...and a couple of cars and maybe a couple more lives....:huh
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  5. revrandy

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    Thanks for that, Florida is the first jurisdiction I have heard of where funeral processions have the right of way. In the states and provinces I have conducted funeral services, everyone had to follow the law.

    The purple lights are relatively new, not every jurisdiction has adopted them and not all funeral homes use them. I have one for my motorcycle as I sometimes go to the cemetery/graveyard on my own... now I can be part of the party.
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  6. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    Taking off from a stop light and stopping quickly in a travel lane are two entirely different things.

    No. That guy was distracted and could have just as easily rear ended someone else somewhere else.
    So its OK to not pay attention to the road? Forget the funeral procession...what if it had been another accident up ahead, an animal in the road, a tree across the road or a motorcyclist down?

    Expect the unexpected!

    There's your food for thought. :deal
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  7. mhpr262

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    Indeed. That video is one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen. I couldn't figure out what that asshat in the big pickup truck was trying to do by pulling so far into the oncoming lane ... trying to stop traffic by pulling into the oncoming lane, holy crap! :eek1
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  8. CSI

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    There is NOBODY stopped in front of the bikes.....so had the bikes stopped for the procession?
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    You think I'm blaming the blue car driver. I am not. I don't know where you got that idea, because I was pretty clear that I agree that the pickup driver is the idiot here for not looking where the fark he was going.

    But, just because the pickup driver is an idiot who should've been paying attention doesn't mean the driver of the car had to sit there and take it. Had he expected shitty driving on the part of other road users, he could've done something about it, like not stopping in the middle of the lane. Not his job, but he could have avoided it just the same.

    Expect the unexpected is right. No matter whose fault it is, both parties often could've done something to avoid or lessen the damage in a wreck.
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  10. machinebuilder

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    And not far from the first posting


    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/apr/27/motorcyclist-19-dies-in-wreck/

    The TN Drivers handbook

    http://www.tn.gov/safety/dlhandbook/DL_Manual2011.pdf

    on Page 46

    Funeral Procession
    In Tennessee, it is a common and accepted practice for
    oncoming traffic to pull to the side of the roadway as a sign of
    respect when meeting a funeral precession.
    Tennessee law
    instructs the following:
    • Vehicles following a funeral procession on a two-lane
    roadway may not attempt to pass such procession; and
    • No operator of a vehicle shall drive between vehicles in a
    properly identified funeral procession except when
    directed to do so by a traffic officer.



    I don't understand the "common and accepted practice".
    IMHO it is dangerous, and if I don't know the dead guy who am I respecting?

    But if someone does stop for any reason, any place you should be able to control your car, truck, motorcycle to not hit them.

    I have seen traffic move 70mph on an interstate stop quickly enough that I went on the shoulder to avoid an accident.

    I wish all the people that stop for funerals would pull over for ambulances, stop for school buses, get out of the left lane etc.
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  11. Bar None

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    If I had been the motorcycles stopped ahead of the blue car, I would not have stopped but just continued on at a reasonable pace while riding on the right side of the lane. Not that I am blaming anyone but the driver of the pickup.

    I hate stopping on any road in that situation unless it is absolutely necessary. ie. school bus , stop light, etc
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  12. IrishJohn

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    The way I see it, the guy in the truck was literally a mobile accident looking for a place to happen. The speed he hit that other vehicle with tells me that whatever he was doing - and the genie is out of the box as regards texting, phoning etc over here (In Ireland just HOLDING a cell phone while you are behind the wheel gets you a pretty stiff fine and mega points on yur licence) - he was doing it while NOT driving safely. If being safe on the road meant we all had to be perfect, none of us would be allowed out there, however there is a huge difference between being lax and speed-driving like Helen Keller....
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  13. khager

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    Yeah, at least go up the road a hundred yards to put some distance between you and the blue car, and keep an eye on your rearview.
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  14. slartidbartfast

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    I have lived in "The South" for over 20 years and had never encountered this tradition until very recently. While out riding, I came across a funeral procession going the other way on a country road. The police escort car was in the middle of the road, forcing oncoming vehicles to pull over. With no clue about this practice, once the cop passed, I moved out slowly and quietly (being respectful, so I thought) and had several of the drivers in the procession shake fists or yell some stuff at me that was most unbecoming for someone supposedly showing respect themselves.

    A friend explained the situation and pointed out that police escorts may be leap-frogging the procession to block intersections and would have to drive on the wrong side of the road to do so. Therefore staying on the shoulder is mandatory while a procession passes in the opposite direction. They seemed to think I would have received a ticket if there had been a cop at the back of the procession.

    Louisiana has a rule similar to Florida's about yielding the right-of-way to a funeral procession but says you can pass a procession on a two-lane road. I'm still not sure what a ticket for failing to pull over might be written for but in rural Louisiana my friend may very well have been right.
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    Why are we even talking about the Funeral procession, or the stopped car?

    This is about one thing only: Distracted idiot who nearly killed a bunch of people because he wasn't paying attention to the 3,000 lbs speeding chunk of metal he was supposed to be piloting. :deal


    And, fucking local news fails again! Didn't anyone try to interview the driver? Get a fuckling police report, maybe? Was that cockholster on his phone? Was he DRUNK? Licensed? Insured? Just Plain Fucking Retarded? Cited by the police? Was anyone hurt?

    :bluduh
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  16. khager

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    Because like it or not there are a lot of distracted idiots out there, on thier cellphones, ipods, doing thier hair, whatever. A lot of areas of the country don't even have laws against cellphone use while driving, and those that do don't enforce them. There may be laws against distracted driving, but those aren't enforced either. Nobody holds them accountable, sorry that's the way it is. I don't like it anymore than you. I wouldn't have stopped in the middle of the road even in a car/truck, unless there was something physically preventing me from moving forward. In this case he could have slowly continued forward, as the bikes were off on the shoulder. If I were the bikes I would not have stopped period. Not enough shoulder there.
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