Antigravity Batteries latest incarnations and discount...

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Antigravity, May 10, 2012.

  1. MTFYR

    MTFYR Adventurer

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    Just want to give a little plug for their customer service. Called ( wish I could remember his name ) at 4:45pm asked some questions, he was very courteous and answered all my questions. I said ok, he said I will package it up and get it out. I live one county over, had it next day. Battery worked, light as hell. As far as long term, time will tell.
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  2. Sparrowhawk

    Sparrowhawk Long timer

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    Here is an update after about a year using the Antigravity battery. The rest of last year was uneventful. The Antigravity started the bike every time without much hint it was different than a big heavy lead battery. About mid August I had to put the bike aside to do some top end work.

    It sat all fall and winter until this week when I finally completed the engine work. It was a little below freezing that morning and the summer blend gasoline was 7 months old so it required a lot of cranking before it finally fired. The Antigravity battery just kept cranking and cranking it over with no hint of getting low after sitting around for 7 months without a charge. I'm sold.

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  3. gstreff

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    Scott
    Is the conversion from PbEq on a 20 cell battery 13. 2 amps or thereabouts?
    22x.6=13.2 amps ?
    Thanks
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  4. Antigravity

    Antigravity Been here awhile

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    the new A123s are 2.5.... 5p x 2.5 = 12.5 Actual Amp hours if tested as a standard testing.... did I answer this in our emails? Sorry if I missed it.
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  5. XFanMan

    XFanMan Been here awhile

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    So I bought an Antigravity battery from Scott over a year ago now for my KTM SDR with the stock Yuasa battery that was getting weak. Well the year rolled by and my KTM wasn't getting ridden much and it was on a battery tender so I kind of forgot about the Antigravity sitting in my office. This weekend I sold my Daytona and realized I'd be riding the KTM a lot more and it occurred to me I'd never installed the new battery. I was pretty certain that sitting in my office unused for over year had at best depleted the charge beyond starting capacity and at worst ruined the battery from discharge. I decided to install it anyway (PITA on the KTM) and hooked it up. Turned the key on and the electrics whirred to life...hit the starter button and the bike roared to life instantly! Damn impressive for a battery sitting unused for over 12 months. I'll be using more of these on my other bikes as the lead/acid batteries go bad.

    Great product...Scott
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  6. Antigravity

    Antigravity Been here awhile

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    Super stoked to hear that. We have some over 3 years old in shrink wrap that still read 13.2v...thanks for letting us know!
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  7. Antigravity

    Antigravity Been here awhile

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    So it's time again to introduce our latest product... hot off the press, bitchen' as all get out. We hope it to be the coolest thing for people who use any electronics and who ride, drive, camp, or do anything where they need POWER.

    Are you ready!

    I mean are your really ready!!!

    Well I'm not quite ready... but I promise it will be super cool and I'll post it up hopefully tonight...
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  8. Sparrowhawk

    Sparrowhawk Long timer

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    I am ready.

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  9. Antigravity

    Antigravity Been here awhile

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    I'm glad your ready Sparrowhawk...at least one person is.:clap and if you want one I'll get you the special super duper "guy who was ready" discount!

    I will preface it with a notice. We are accepting pre-orders now but expect to ship by July 1st...s. Its been a 2 year process and I'm just going to announce early since I'm freaking to get it out...

    The official announcement is here,

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21688895#post21688895



    s-
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  10. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

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    Hi Scott,

    Do you offer any batteries with an integrates BMS yet, or do you plan to in the near future?

    Cheers,
    Lukas
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  11. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Quick question on chargers.

    For a YTZ7 ... is there any reason (aside from cost) not to go with an 8A charger? On the face of it, it would appear to charge the battery quicker.
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  12. ericrat

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    Hello Antigravity,

    I have 2003 Husqvarna TE610E. It is a 600cc single, electric start only, no kicker. I just might ride into the dark beyond, drop it in a creek, flood the heck out of it (water, gas or both) and have a difficult time restarting it. For a dual sport it has a decent 240 Watt alternator.

    The stock battery is a YTX-14BS.

    Which of your batteries would you recommend? It looks like the small case 12 cell would work. Is the 16 cell totally overkill, if you were spending you grandmother money would you do it?

    Thanks!

    Eric
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  13. legion

    legion Voodoo Science

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    Is there something the matter with your site today? The "loading... please wait" status lasts a loooong time when I push the Add To Cart button.
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  14. Strong Bad

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    Really??? You are asking that on a Easter Sunday afternoon??
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  15. legion

    legion Voodoo Science

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    Does the baby Jesus not like internet battery sales?

    To others... the site is right and works correctly again.
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  16. XFanMan

    XFanMan Been here awhile

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    Went into the garage this weekend and started the KTM SDR with its Antigravity battery (now a couple of years old) after sitting in my garage all winter during the worst winter in recorded history in SE Michigan. I normally move the bikes down into the basement but snow came early last year and never went away :eek1

    I have the Triumph with an AGM battery on a tender but don't have one that works with the Lithium so it sat all winter without one. Put the key in the ignition expecting the worst as that's always what has happened to my lead acid batteries in the past left unattended for long periods of time. Turned the key and VROOOM...the KTM fires up like I just put it away last night.

    Doesn't get any better than that! :wings:bow
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  17. BykBoy

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    Can I charge the Antigravity YTZ10-12 with Battery Tender Plus charger?
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  18. drdata

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  19. attaboy

    attaboy Let's go for it!

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    Hi Scott, still with Anti-Gravity?

    I purchased a 2014 KTM 1190 Adventure... fantastic bike in almost all regards. But the original YTZ14S battery... yikes. Many threads around the planet mention starting problems due to these main reasons: capacity of the charging system, small starter, or weak battery.

    While some KTM dealers replaced it with the starter from the 1290 model (which is bigger), many individuals changed their battery for higher cranking amps. I am planning on buying the YTZ12-12 this week (or 12-16 if you convince me!!) to finally get peace of mind. The KTM 1190 switches everything off with the ignition, but it "may" have parasitic drain. Can I charge it using a 40$ Optimate maintenance charger which delivers a constant 900 mA and stops at 14.something Volt?

    3,000 KTM 1190 buyers would be very happy to finally put their "cranking apprehension" to rest.

    Thank you
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  20. Antigravity

    Antigravity Been here awhile

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    Hi Attaboy,
    Yes I'm still with Antigravity, but being the owner makes it so I can never get away... but we are doing very well actually.

    I am in full agreement the KTM didn't put enough battery in the 1190... it's an adventure bike for Christ's sake. Those should come stock with more capacity for sure being it's intended use in on ADVENTURES in the middle of nowhere....But the fact is the battery is in the YTZ12/14 size Case size, and on the 1190 that is the ONLY battery that fits in the battery tray on the 1190. But it's just to small of a battery box to get the Capacity you need by adding a larger battery since there is no room in there to fit a larger battery. What I'm saying is the YTZ12/14 case size is holding up getting more capacity because of its physical size. It getting the most capacity it can in that size case. If they had used the YTX14 Case, and made that battery box bigger you would have gotten more capacity. Anyway they didn't so you are limited by the amount of space in that areas... which is dinky. As I"m sure you know...

    So to clarify the options for you using our lithium batteries let me explain it this way. We have a YTZ10 Case size (the same as the YTZ12/14s, but 12mm shorter) which can fit up to 12 Cells, but not the 16 Cells which would get you more LITHIUM CAPACITY and POWER. But a few guys are putting our 16-Cell SMALL CASE version on its side and making a longer wire to get to the terminals to allow you to hook it up by it laying on its side.... But some people don't want to do that hassle with laying it on its side. I might have another option that I will get back to you on tomorrow... we have a larger cell pack we just made for our YTX12 case that may fit into the YTZ10 case we make ... then all would fit and it would have better capacity and Power than the 12-Cell version.

    To explain it on the battery side... our 16-Cell Small Case, and also our YTZ10-12 would be WAY more powerful than the stock lead acid battery and offer much better Starting. The only issue is with using the 12-cell version of our batteries you still aren't getting more REAL capacity than the Lead/Acid version. So you get about 1 Ah LESS than the Stock lead/Acid version, but WAY more cranking power. But if you use the 16-Cell version you get better capacity AND tremendously more power for cranking. So thats the trade off.

    I have a 2015 KTM 1290 SuperDuke... I have our YTZ10-12 in it and it really has a fairly low parasitic draw... so it starts it no problems, and can usually sit a while without any issues...But being honest on an Adventure bike you guys are often hooking up USB Cables, GPS, extra lighting, heater gear or grips, etc... so that is definitely not enough for me to feel comfortable recommending 12-Cell for any Adventure bike that does some adventure stuff or long distance touring or has any extra accessories. If you pushing your accessories and bike, then its best try to fit a 16-Cell in there. But also check your electrical system for the draw you might have when the bike is just sitting. There are many articles on this if you google "testing for parasitic drain/draw" on Google. Easily done with a basic Ammeter.


    Last you are correct that a lot can be made up for in the higher power of a lithium battery compared to lead. The lithium can offer a easier starts for sure, and more starts , but in most the lithium batteries available out there they are NOT putting enough Real Ah in their lithium batteries. For example some companies have only a REAL Ah rating of 5Ah and they are calling it a 12Ah PbEq (starting equivalent). While we are somewhat guilty of the same thing we actually have a higher Real Ah rating than the other but usually about 3 to 4 real Ah. For example our 12Ah PbEq is actually almost 9 Ah compared to our Competitor 5 to 6 Ah of the same size battery for example a YTZ10 size.

    Eitherway... while I can say that our YTZ10-12 will rip start the 1190 ADV... it's really not the best choice unless you have a stock bike, very minimum accessories or none added to the ADV style bike and just ride normal and aren't taking your bike across the country and out in the back country. You want to try to up to a 16-Cell if you get outside of basic riding.

    I'll try to get back to you tomorrow about that new cell and see if it will fit into the YTZ10 Case we have...

    Sorry for the ramble but I try to educate so anyone reading in the future will get some insight into what the facts are.

    Scott-

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