Any Death Valley news?

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by cbig, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Getting redy to go soon, and was wondering if there's any updates besides what the morning report suggests. Anyone ride out there recently?

    Thanks,

    Cb
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  2. Off Limits

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    I'm pretty sure it's still there.
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  3. DSM8

    DSM8 Where fun goes to die....

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    Next week over thanksgiving so do me a favor and ride the following report back conditions:


    • Hunter Mountain
    • Hidden Valley
    • Lippencott
    • South Pass
    • Saline Valley
    • Steel Pass
    And any others if you feel so inclined.


    :lol3
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  4. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Steel pass presents a fuel problem. Rest may be doable...
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  5. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    I read around here somewhere that the Furnace Creek campground has been remodeled, and is now "sanitized". You have to park and walk a short distance to your campsite.

    Is Death Valley Daze (dual sport/adv/side car event) coming up soon? I went about 4 years ago, and had a blast.
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  6. spafxer

    spafxer Long timer

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    Was there 2 weeks ago.

    In general the Titus Canyon, Beatty, and Chloride Cliffs areas were in very good shape.

    It was told to us by Rocky in Ballarat that a confirmed tornado (with the associated rain) hit the Panamint range in August. Goler wash steps were layered with new gravel and very easy to go up. We only made it 2.3 miles past the steps though and the damage was great. We had to turn around since we were on big bikes and loaded. A Jeep told me he made it within 2 miles of Barker Ranch then he too turned around. I have no reports of coming into the Mengal Pass area from the East.

    We headed up Saline to Cerro Gordo and found the area quite full of loose rocks and sand, made it ok though. Attempted to get to the Salt Tram but no go. Again, on a 950 Adventure. A light bike would have been no problem.

    I talked to a BMW 800GS and KTM 950 that made it to the Hot Springs via South Pass. Pretty rough, but passable on bikes. Jeeps?? I would think Hunter and Lippincott would be loose and ok on light bikes. Talked to a BMW1200GS 2 up that attempted the road to The Racetrack. Too rough for them, but I think it was just washboarding (normal).

    Reported that North Pass was smooth as glass. (Mining operation) Maybe do Steele Pass via Big Pine and North Pass.. We do have more weather coming in though.
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  7. scruffy

    scruffy Been here awhile

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    I may be a last minute show up. Would come on Tuesday or Wednesday and bring small bikes and looking for someone to ride with.

    Don
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  8. Off Limits

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    Does panamint springs sell out over thanksgiving?
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  9. slidewayes

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    Planing on D/V on NOV. 23 to 25 First choice is coming from south / east up warm springs threw butte valley, down goler but dose not sound promising, Any input would be helpful I don't know all the little roads or if there is any other way over that ridge
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  10. redninja

    redninja Will ride 4 scenery

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    Back in the Good Ol' Days, it used to be full, but the past few years, there have been plenty of spaces left. I didn't make reservations this year, and we are planning on going, and not worried about finding a spot. Looks like it will be warm this year; maybe that will bring more people. Past few years, it was on the cool side, but still nice. If it's full, you can always camp at Ballarat.
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  11. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Planning to start from Panamint this weekend. We are on ktm 530's and xr's so our fuel range will be about 120 miles maybe 150 with an extra 1 gal. We may leave Tuesday afternoon to head down near Spangler on our way home. Plan is to ride Husky Monument or Schmidt's, mess around on some hills and turn for home.

    Morning Report shows Mengel as open. I will confirm that. If so, make that the first trip. A stop at the rangers' on the way back should clear questions.
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  12. superhobie

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    Rode 3 days in the valley starting and ending in Ridgecrest both on XR650R. 1st day started a little late hoping to make Goler to Furnace but ended up doing to much exploring and back tracking trying routes on or near the Gov property :shog to the backside of Wingate rd. My partners bike had a light issue so we elected to slab from Panamint to Furnace where we had a room at the Ranch. 2nd day we rode Echo to Beatty then down Titus to Ubehebe then out to Teakettle and Hidden Valley to Hunter Mt and over to Saline Rd racing the sun again to PSR. Echo was in great shape as was Hidden and Hunter, in fact everything on the North side seemed mostly unaffected by the Aug-Sept rains. Talked to a guy that had done North Pass stayed at the Springs and out Lippencot and he said basically the same thing, everything pretty decent maybe a little more loose rock but still very rideable. 3rd day was PSR to an out and back of Goler to Mengel, of everything we rode Goler was in the roughest shape but still not bad considering the beating it took. We rode to the descent of Mengel and turned back due to time and logistic constraints. Mengel looked like it would be tricky on a smaller bike and a nightmare on a bigger bike. BTW there basically is no step on Goler with all the fill they pushed in to fix some of the washouts. Hope that helps.
    Day #1 route http://tiny.cc/DeathValley1
    Day #2 route http://tiny.cc/DeathValley2
    Day #3 route http://tiny.cc/DeathValley3
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  13. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    Looking to ride back from Barstow to Vegas through Butte Valley/Goler Wash with a few Texans.
    I'd be very interested in hearing any first hand reports from this weekend.
    Bikes will range from a G650 to a couple of XR400's and the chubby Husky.
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  14. slidewayes

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    Thanks for all the info you guys are grate . We well be looking for ya .
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  15. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    We'll give it a shot and if able post a photo. Looks like Mengel is passable, but tough from the Morning Report. If I stop long enough to take a photo I'll try and remember to post. (Not too good at remembering to take pictures)

    I'll probably be on an xr400, maybe xr600 depending on range, so most obstacles shouldn't be too tough.

    Thanks,

    Chuck
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  16. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Mengel hasn't changed, it's the same as always.

    Rode South Pass the other night on the 1150, nicely torn up, the 70 mph tail wind gave me some trouble...had to wait for the wind to slow so I didn't get knocked upside down in a trench.

    Took Steel Pass on the way out, easiest I've ever seen it. Then N Eureka to Dyer...fuel run was 162 miles from Olancha. Sand was dry and fluffy around Eureka Dunes, handful on the big beast.

    Keep in mind that the morning report is written to keep the Camry peeps safe and sound.
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  17. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Just got off the phone with the ranger. He said Mengel is in rough shape but passable for dirt bikes with some talent. He described a 13 ft drop off at the Mengel Pass. Not sure how to read that. I mentioned we'd be going thru on xr400's and 530 KTMs . He felt west to east was doable but the drop off might be too much east to west. Rutted thru Warm Springs Canyon but doable. I figure Mengel will be our go no go decision point, carry max fuel in case we got to turn back. Hope to hit Echo while out that way depending, and Titus. Next day hit the northern sections.

    Any Papoose Flat news?
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  18. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    PM this guy: dirty adventurer

    I sent him that way on Sunday.
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  19. slidewayes

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    cbig,if I'm reading that right ranger says its easier to go up 13' then down, Your going this weekend? looking forward to your report. I'll be on a fuel stretchier took about 5 gal to top off at panamint springs last time
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  20. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Not ad good at making reports as I should. From what the ranger said down (west to east) is easier. That's also how I remember it tho it's been about 5 years since I passed that way.
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