Any triumph 800xc owners wish they would have bought a BMW F800gs?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by jtmajors, May 18, 2013.

  1. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    Is you buddy tall and suited for the larger bike?
  2. Yankee Dog

    Yankee Dog Long timer

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    Maybe, maybe not. My 800xc carried the missus and I 5400 miles to the Grand Canyon and back 2up a few weeks ago. I never wished for more power and I certainly never wished for more weight.

    for a little perspective. I once owned a BMW R1150RT. It had only 2 more ponies than the XC along with 200 more pounds. No one ever asked if it was powerful enough for 2up riding.

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  3. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    He did...check his post history. Somebody must have pissed in his wheaties. :rofl
  4. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    Just to give you an idea, I've been riding on dirt since July on my Tiger 800 XC. I'm still not very good, but with a capable rider, this thing has gone more places than any GS I've seen with a similar caliber or better rider.

    I've taken it on dirt roads, forest roads, woods roads, double track, single track, 1/2 track, power lines, sand pits, mud, baby heads, wet grass, and no roads. It will go everywhere, but is only limited by the rider. The areas it has the most difficulty is mud and wet grass. It's a little heavy, and is hard to kick back straight unless you're a really tall or strong dude. If a tire kicks out, it's hard to kick back if you're going too slowThe one time I couldn't go on during the Berkshire Triple on the DS route, another dude that was 6'6" hopped on and rode it right through. Muddy whoops over roots into a corkscrew hill climb over boulders with trees guarding the best line. It's tall, so if you can't get both feet down, it's really a 50/50 chance it's going to fall over if you stop because once your other foot hits, it's too heavy to catch. If you were just good and rode it through, that wouldn't be an issue.

    On the Colors in the Catskills event at Hunter Ski area, I did the advanced ride/tour of the mountain. I kept up with the enduros. There was one wrong turn that we took that we kinda scratched our heads at before we went, but we went right up the face of one of those ski hills on some loose rocky shit, and the 4 enduros and me were the only ones at the top (other than crew) Littered about were the other 800GS' and 1200GS' barely 1/4 of the way through. One to nothin :evil :norton
  5. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    And if you really want to see the ultimate test of the Tiger, check out this awesome ride trip:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877576

    Dude and his girl are going from England to Oz via Europe and Asia on their Tiger, loaded 2-up on the same stuff from Long way round. Many similarities. They did much of it on dirt roads, loaded, 2-up. Doing great til a truck threw them over a cliff. Yea, really. Great story.
  6. Rich B

    Rich B Been here awhile

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    I started following that ride report when I was down in August due to some medical issues. Really an incredible ride by those 2. Not sure who was tougher, the bike or them :D
  7. Zapp22

    Zapp22 ZAPP - Tejas

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    actually i think he's probably right.
    bmw said 'offroad' from the beginning with that design. its about as close as we have ever seen, in this segment, to a true 60/40 kind of ride.
    sure with it and the other entries in this category had the reliability of the weestrom.
  8. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I beg to differ - I think the 950 Enduro is a bit more dirt-happy than either of the 800s.
  9. petelatteier

    petelatteier Adventurer

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    I am getting ready to purchase a bike and I am still torn between the F8GS and T8XC. Here are my choices, both bikes are used and sold by the dealer,

    2013 F8GS 700km for $12,054 (hasn't even had 1st service yet)

    2012 T8XC 10,000km for $9,863 (former demo bike)

    I am leaning towards the Tiger but it doesn't have a center stand and the dealer is going to give me a good deal on an Arrow slip-on that was barely used. Those two things will eat a little bit into the $2,200 difference. I will get engine guards on both and probably a bash plate for the GS since the stock one is useless. So let's call it a $2,000 price difference. BMW will give me 25% discount on accessories and Triumph only 10%.

    I am also concerned about the engine heat on the XC. I live in Dubai where it is over 90 6-7 months out of the year and well into the 100's for over half that time. Riding will be 80/20 street/desert.
    And for the GS the sound is not very inspiring...

    Where would you put your money??
  10. Yankee Dog

    Yankee Dog Long timer

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    It was 107f in New Mexico when we rode through last month. I didnt even notice the heat from the engine.

    As for the rest. $2000 buys a lot of accessories.

    Just sayin.
  11. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    You could get a trail stand instead of the center stand which will let you change both tires. I made my own. Unless you are going to slide it over logs and rocks the stock tiger skid plate is more than adequate.

    For that ratio of dirt you will have more fun on the tiger. If you sit in traffic you might notice when the fan comes on, but the heat is relative to your previous bikes and is subjective. I've never had an issue. I'd use the extra cash to get excellent hot weather gear as that's where your comfort lies, not the bike.

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  12. gqelements

    gqelements Been here awhile

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    Having put on 40K on to an F800s (virtually the same engine as the GS) and now about 8K into my Tiger, I'd never go back to the brutish twin of the F800. Tiger is just too smooth and fun to ride.
  13. BryanCO

    BryanCO CO Rider

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    Easy call - Triumph. But I'm not a big fan of demo bikes. I bought mine with 345 miles -- from the original owner. The $$ saved was just an added bonus and funded mods.
  14. jtmajors

    jtmajors OCD with motorcycles

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    I am the OP and after much deliberation I bought a tiger. I really wanted the BMW but after a test ride on both the BMW was out and I had to have the tiger. I love it!
  15. petelatteier

    petelatteier Adventurer

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    Thanks for the input guys. My heart is telling me to go with the Tiger but my sensibilities say the GS. I think I am going to follow my heart, and wallet, and get the Tiger with the Arrow exhaust. I think the GS may get a little too buzzy cruising around at 75-85 on the roads here and that parallel twin sound doesn't do it for me.

    My only concern with this XC is the fact is was a demo bike and has 6k miles. The shop said they will do the 6k service, although the next service at 12k is the big one. The factory warranty is good for another 7-8 months which will take me through the winter when the majority of the riding will be done.
  16. petelatteier

    petelatteier Adventurer

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    What is a trail stand? I know the dirt bike stands but those aren't very portable. A center stand makes lubing/adjusting the chain easier especially if on a trip.

    You are right about the stock skid plate, I will probably stick with that unless the shop gives me a good deal on the aluminum one.
  17. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Well that solves that little dilemma. Congrats on your purchase.:clap
  18. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    I think he's talking about a small telescopic prop stand which you wedge under the bike on the opposite side to the side stand.
    When put in the appropriate place you get three points of contact with the ground. i.e. front wheel, side stand and the trail stand and it'll keep one wheel off the ground.
  19. Yankee Dog

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    Things might be different in your neck of the woods. but around these parts the warranty does not start until the bike is sold. Demos get a full warranty from the day you buy it.
  20. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    Right you are Ken...

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    http://www.endurostar.com/

    I however, just made my own out of stainless steel. Get two heavy walled tubes that fit tight together, drill a bunch of 1/8" holes down the inside tube and two holes at the top of the outside tube 1/2" apart. I welded the foot on as it didn't seem sturdy when trying to wedge it under the bike. You can bend the hook in a big vice out of rod stock. Didn't even have to heat it up. My buddy with the one shown had the foot spin on me and the tire slide around on the floor. Mine hasn't moved once put in place. You just hook the thing to the open hole by the foot peg or under a crash bar joint to get the back or front respectively. Must have!

    I just realized I have the pieces to make a new one here in case I broke mine. Original is still mint and works perfectly.

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    Here's the dimensions in case anyone's interested:

    Base: 1.625 OD x 1/4" THK
    Outside tube: 1/2"OD x .042 THK x 11" long
    Inside tube: .405 OD x .067 THK x 11" long
    Support hook: .25 OD rod

    All 316 Stainless