This thread is really hard to find on ADVRider. I'm not sure I could ever find it again. I subscribe to it, so I don't have to look for it. In a similar place to you: I've only been riding since the Fall of 2009, but I've put on more than 14,000 miles, mostly from long-distance travel. And I'm starting to practice on gravel and dirt whenever we can find such roads here in the Greater Portland, Oregon area that aren't super busy or super difficult. It's frustrating to talk to guys and gals who have been riding dirt bikes since they were kids - they know what to do intuitively, and therefore, have no idea how to explain how to do it. They also don't seem to appreciate how hard it is for a short rider on a KLR (I'm 5' 4" - yes, the bike is lowered). My husband is an experienced ADVRider, and he does his best to give me advice - and find roads to practice on. So - welcome! Looking forward to hearing more from you.