First: *wink Second, the MSF is the best idea. We've talked about it and I want to go that route, if she's still game. I pull a lot from this thread, mostly confirming what I already learned the hard way. She always hated riding on the back of mine. Control issues--the good kind. Then someone gave me a Honda Twinstar...which I sold because I thought...no wait, I didn't think. Stupid. She would have learned on that bike. Anyway, no more lost opportunities. I want her to at least have the opportunity to experience the freedom and catharthis that comes... But, the choice and will are hers. I think the entire idea is founded then built on "her will be done". Man shutting up now.