Anyone ever taken the basic riding course...

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by RxZ, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. RxZ

    RxZ Legal Drug Dealer

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    after having already taken it in the past?

    I have been riding about 5 years, and I did the BRC before getting my license and bike. Anyway, fast forward and now I find myself selling that bike of mine to one of my little brothers. He has ridden motorcycles and dirtbikes in the past, but not that often. I am making him take the BRC before I hand over the bike and title. One, I want him to have the education and experience, and 2, it is now law in Texas to take the course before getting the M endorsement.

    Anyway, at the class next weekend I am not going to say a thing to my brother unless he specifically asks me. I am going to let the instructors do their job. However, having already been through the class, what should I focus on? I am wanting to take the class mainly to freshen up on the avoidance maneuvers, and hope that if I have developed any bad habits over the past few years the instructors will correct me.

    Anything else you guys recommend?
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  2. PT Rider

    PT Rider Been here awhile

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    Two foci...
    ...Smoothness
    ...Look through the turn and look ahead (not down) when braking.

    Smooth on the clutch, smooth on the throttle, smooth on the brakes.

    Turn your head and point your chin at the exit of a turn as the first thing you do to start the turn. Keep your eyes level and swivel your head around to the turn exit. When braking, keep your vision ahead, never down.

    Countersteering isn't even a question, is it? Push forward on the right bar to turn right, etc.
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  3. SxyRdr

    SxyRdr Been here awhile

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    Strive to do a better demo ride than the RiderCoach. :rofl


    Seriously though... if I have a student who already knows how to ride and can follow directions, generally I'm just giving him/her hints/tips/tricks on how to do things better. I also try to get them to be the role model for the other students. For whatever reason, it's just like kids/parents. Parent can tell the kid the sky is blue, but the kid doesn't believe it until one of their classmates/friends says "Hey, I just realized the sky is blue!"
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  4. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    Do wheelies...........the instructors LOVE that shit! :D
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  5. TeneRay

    TeneRay 2>4

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    I took the BRC with at least 5 years of street under my belt. I'm not ashamed to admit I learned a couple things.

    From my experience, the only difference between the BRC and ERC was the BRC provided the bikes. The ERC was the same drills with your own bike. I know most BRC's you need to provide your own bike. This was in CO where there was a huge military motorcycling scene.

    Highly recommended for people who never sat on a bike but wish to ride. It's a great way to take baby steps. Also lower your insurance premium a bit.

    A guy literally did a burnout at the end of the day. FAILED. :rofl
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  6. AzItLies

    AzItLies Been here awhile

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    You're looking at this from a very smart perspective. While the BRC certainly does start slowly (for all the brand new riders), it does finish in some very important skills, that many riders today just blow off and never practice.

    The 2 important avoidance maneuvers are emergency braking and emergency swerving. The other top skill they teach is proper cornering technique.

    So focusing on those, ea time they are talked about, would be a good idea. These are the skills that could potentially keep us from crashing or at least minimizing the crash.

    I always stress in my classes that these are not "innate" skills, they are learned sills. That means if we don't practice them, our ability to accomplish them will diminish over time.

    Cheers
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  7. Reverend12

    Reverend12 Well there it is..

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    Glad You are doing this, good for You, Master the skills.. Refine the skills and Practice! You will be a better rider.:clap
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  8. dino1

    dino1 Been here awhile

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    My step son may need to take the class to get a motorcycle endorsement, I got mine way back in the day before a class was needed. Figured it couldn't hurt and I might learn something I didn't know and I would be helping my step son out.
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  9. Jim Moore

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    Do the instructors a huge favor. Don't argue with them. They may say a few things you don't agree with. Realize they're not really talking to you. They're talking to the people in the group who have never been on a motorcycle.
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  10. GI_JO_NATHAN

    GI_JO_NATHAN Long timer

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    You're doing a great thing as far as your brother is concerned.
    Although I would think about doing a more advanced course yourself, if there's one available.
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  11. RxZ

    RxZ Legal Drug Dealer

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    Nope, I'm not saying a word, unless asked :deal My personal goal for the weekend is to have them watch me and pick up on bad habits I may have developed.

    I've done the advanced riders course as well, although it has been at least 3-4 years since that one. It was a fun glass, but essentially the same as day 2 of the basic course, but at higher speeds and on your own bike instead of the antiquated (perfect for first timers) 125 cc bikes.

    I may be a little bored through the course, but I'll be on a bike! I do hope this class has standards though instead of mini-cruisers like my first time had. I had hardly been on a bike and found myself grinding away the floorboards :evil
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  12. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    Whatever the rider coach wants you to focus on during each exercise.

    I'd say most experienced(average) riders who go into a BRC with an open mind will come away with something learned during the class. Maybe something they had forgotten, etc.
    It's the folks who "know it all" who will say it was a waste of money/time.

    In Virginia they wont let you use you own bike for the BRC. Some folks go out and buy a bike(usually way too tall/powerful) on impulse before they take the class rather than wait and see what they would be more comfortable on learning to ride. Can you imagine 10-12 folks on a range with new bikes that are way too big to be able to learn on safely? It wouldn't be pretty...
    Had a guy this past weekend questioning his purchase of a brand new GSXR750 after riding a DR200 for two days.
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  13. pete613

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    I had ridden dirt for about 6 years before taking the basic rider course last summer. The only reason that I took the class was because it is required if you are under the age of 18 and want to get your motorcycle license in NJ. The class helped me take my skills and apply them to street riding. The nice part about the class is that you don't have to take any tests at the DMV. It wasn't a bad class but it got a little boring for me since I knew almost all the things that they where teaching.
    I have told a couple of my friends about it and now they are going to take it. It may have not been the most fun class, but if your new to riding or have been riding all your life I would highly recommend taking the basic rider course.

    -Pete
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  14. Mr_Snips

    Mr_Snips Husky BRAAAAAAAAP!

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    If you already have the concept of moving on a motorcycle down do the advanced riders course...way better for the real world if you've already learned to ride.
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  15. feldjäger

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    I'm having to take this the whole weekend. The military or at least my unit has made it a requirement in order to ride a motorcycle. Guess too many guys have been getting themselves killed in the last several years. I've been riding for quite a while now, but to be honest I'm sure I'll get a few things from it.
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  16. Blue&Yellow

    Blue&Yellow but orange inside...

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    What a great idea.

    The reason new riders go too fast is most often that they don't percieve any dangers up ahead. They think the coast is clear and that it's a free-for-all speedfest all the time.

    Once a new riders learns that blind corners can have obstacles at the other end... that treas and bushes may indicate a wildlife crossing.... that unknown bends can tighten...... that dusk and dawn is when there is the most wildlife about.... that there can be gravel or leaves mid-corner..... that cars don't always see you even if you think they do... they usually slow down quite a bit.

    In my experience good riders ride both over AND under the speed limit depending on the conditions.

    Apart from basic techniques such as countersteering and looking where you're going I think most riders benefit the most from "hazard awareness training".
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  17. Tripl Nikl

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    And stoppies! :lol3

    Just go with an open mind. "Basic," sure, but it's good to touch on fundamentals from time to time.
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  18. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    That is probably the best advice to give right there. Let the instructors instruct. It is a good base for starting riding. After miles and experience we will all modify certain aspects of how we ride.
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  19. Cerberus83

    Cerberus83 The Wingman

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    Yes, I took Basic (the best, fastest and safest way to get your endorsement and not dealing with State Troopers failing you when you go take your bike test).

    I also used to go and take "Experienced" rider course every or ever other spring right before the "season" starts... it's just a refresher course and it's a great way to polish your skills, meet new people to ride with and learn a new trick or two...

    I would definitely recommend it!
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  20. bwringer

    bwringer Gimpy, Yet Alacritous

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    Yep. I took the BRC after about 10 years of safe street riding, and I still learned a lot. My ass still aches sometimes from the crappy seats on those Suzuki 125s... pick a comfy bike if you get a choice.

    Open your mind, close yer yap, and do things their way. Show off your experience by nailing the exercises on the first try and acing the exam.
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