Anyone go from motorcycle to scooter?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by chukzelda, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. chukzelda

    chukzelda Adventurer

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    Hi,

    I have a 35 mile daily commute. I'm considering trading my 2nd motorcycle for a scooter for this commute. I need better weather protection for when cold weather hits.

    Has anyone moved from a motorcycle to a large cc scooter? Thoughts? Is the weather protection sufficient?

    thanks
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  2. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    I had a Burgman 400 and a Burgman 650. Both excellent scoots.

    Both had better weather protection than the ST1100 and ST1300 that I had owned. The Burg650 made the ST1100 look small when sitting next to it.

    I was commuting 110 miles a day, and both Burgs did better as a commuter than 95% of the bikes I've owned. Pretty impressive machines.

    I had my Gerbings heated gear hooked up to each, and ran them all winter.

    My only complaints were going through rear tires very often, and the smaller tires can be harsh on bumps that you normally don't feel on standard size MC tires.

    One more thing - people give you NO respect on a scooter. They assume you are driving an uninsured traffic jamming turd, so they just look you in the eye while running you off the road. I caved in the door of a $80k AUDI one morning because he decided he should be where I was and steadily came over while looking right at me. He forced me to the shoulder at 60 mph.
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  3. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Ecobox would be my choice for commuting in bad weather. My Scion IQ is at 40 MPG average. Keep the bike for nice weather.
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  4. chukzelda

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    Hi,

    Sound like either burgman is a winner for commuting. Fortunately, due to living in the country, I have no real traffic to contend with. I also leave early in the morning (5:30), so I have the road to myself many days.

    I'm not looking to ride it in bad weather. I need the full fairing protection as the temps early in the morning can be in the low 40's and then warm up to 70 mid-day. Once the snow flies, I stop riding 2 wheel and move back to my car.

    I've ridden in the rain on motorcycles for years and it doesn't even bother me anymore.

    Chuk
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  5. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    I'm confused. You said "I need better weather protection for when cold weather hits."

    Anyway, a good 200cc plus scooter will do the trick. I had a SYM HD200 which was plenty of scooter for a 35 mile commute. 70 plus MPH @ 70 MPG.

    Burgerking 400 or 650 is nice but overkill for your commute.
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  6. chukzelda

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    Barone,

    My current bike is a cruiser. I know from past years (and other bikes) that I will need lower fairing protection for when the temps drop below 50. Cruiser are great in warm weather, but they channel air up over the tank in addition to the air coming around the side of the windshield. My bike has no ability to have any lowers or deflectors mounted to it.

    It's interesting that a 200 - 300 cc scooter will be enough for my commute. I figured they would not have the acceleration or protection. Time I looked into them.

    thanks much.
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  7. klaviator

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    You never mentioned the normal speeds on your commute. If you are on a highway going 70+, I would recommend at least a 300. If your speeds are 60 and under, some 200s will do just fine. I wouldn't hesitate to ride cross country on my 250 but I would want something bigger if I was primarily going to ride on highways.

    BTW, I bought my first scooter after over 30 years of riding motorcycles. Scooters are a blast. There are many others on this forum with experiences similar to mine. I have 2 motorcycles and 2 scooters. I ride the scooters much more than the motorcycles.
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  8. topless

    topless Been here awhile

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    I have a 12-1/2 mile commute and have ridden small motorcycles and scooters on it for several years. I started out riding a CT90 and while kinda fun, 30 year old technology requires work and the electrics are a joke. Then went to another old Honda SL125 It was marginally faster, an suffered similar electrical issues. Went to a 400cc Supermoto and had some fun, but while it was highway capable, I hated riding at highway speeds on a naked bike. Finally bought a Zuma125 and really liked it, but at times I needed highway speeds. What I did find is the scooter's handling, twist and go CVT with some storage is great and having EFI was another big plus, I put 3600 miles on it over the last year. This spring Suzuki offered 0% financing for 60 months and the local dealer had a leftover 2011 Burgman400, so I jumped on it. The idea that the B400 is too much for a 12-1/2 mile commute is rather dumb. The huge underseat storage and comfort, let's me use it like a small car. Although I confess, I don't ride it when temps get over about 95 degrees. It's too hard on an old man like me. I've put over 2000 miles on it in the last 4 months and it's fuel mileage is getting better, averaging 57-58 now. Most of those miles were before July, since then we've had temps running over 100 degrees almost every day.
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  9. SPOFF

    SPOFF Been here awhile

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    I traded a 120 hp Yamaha V-Max for a Honda 125cc PCX. I found I had less and less use for a naked motorcycle that could go 150 mph and I really needed a commuter that gave me 105 mpg. But my commute for one job is 8 miles on back roads and the other is a quarter mile. (I still own a half-ton, 100 hp cruiser and a KLR dirt bike for winter use.) I wouldn't use something as small as the PCX for a 35-mile commute. But for that time when gas goes to $6 a gallon, I'm ready.
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  10. chukzelda

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    Hi,

    The speed limit on my commute is 65 MPH. I want to feel stable and be protected from cold air blasting directly on me.

    Chuk
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  11. cbolling

    cbolling Here...Hold my Beer.

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    If you need to go 65mph then the Burgman 400 or Majesty 400 would be about perfect.
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  12. Bar None

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    SYM HD200 or like performance scooter would be just fine also for a max 65 MPH commute.
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  13. emmettken

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    I rode motorcycles,all kinds,for 44yrs. Sold my last one 3yrs ago and bought a Burgman 400. :thumb Will probably buy a second scooter,smaller one,when I find the right one at the right price. I'm thinking used 125cc to 250cc.
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  14. cdwise

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    A BV 350 will cruise all day long at 70mph without strain, even 2 up except at very high altitudes (I'm writing from near Breckenridge, CO where I'm sitting at 10,800 ft) then it might strain a bit with 2 up but with 1 no problems. Our 250cc Sprots City has handled I-70 even over mountain passes and the Eisenhower Tunnel with no problems keeping up with traffic.

    If you ride a cruiser and like the foot forward position a maxiscoot like a Burgman or Kymco Xciting may be your preferred scooter but I like the more traditional style, several of which have lap apron options that would make your cold weather commute warm and toasty. A Vespa GTS, S or GTS with a Thurmoscud http://scooter-wear.com/tucano-urbano-termoscud-r154-vespa-gt-gtv-gts puts the radiator vents blowing warm air on your legs as you ride. There are Thermoscuds available for other scooters (and even some motorcycles) but not many models of scooters have heat vents that can send the warm air directly to your legs. The lap aprons also provide water and wind protection even more than a faring. I spend the school year in Houston where my GTS even without a lap apron is comfortable down to the upper 30s and I have no problem riding I-10, I-45 or other freeways with it. There are several GTS riders in Houston that have it as their ownly transportation. One of which is Russian and swears by his Thermoscud which he rode all winter with in Russia before emmigrating to the US.

    Some of the scoots like my Aprilia Scarabeo are pre-wired for heated grips you just have to add the grip and maybe order the button.
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  15. Realbtl

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    I go from mc to scoot (and back) daily or as the mood strikes. My choices are Helix, Silverwing, VFR and Suz S40. That said, come end of Sept or so, the bikes get less and less use here in Montana. Interestingly the Helix has better wind/weather protection than the Wing. Test a few scoots and see which offers the most protection.
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  16. Süsser Tod

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    Right now I own 4 big bikes and 2 small scooters. I don't like the scooters for long distances, but within the city, avoiding the highway, they are a blast. Maybe I would like them for longer distances if I had a bigger scooter, but nothing beats scooters for practicality.
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  17. CaseyJones

    CaseyJones Ridin' that train

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    Yep, I went from a bike, a BMW GS, to a scooter. Several scooters.

    Did so for age-related medical issues...arthritis in the hips; back. Scooters aren't much better on the back; but I'm no longer up for long-distance rides. So, why have the money invested in an expensive bike?

    As to your question: The Burgman 400 and 650 both offer RELATIVELY better weather protection. Keep in mind, you're still out in the open. And for a true protection, you'll have to go with an aftermarket windshield - Givi or similar.

    That said...no matter what you're on, lousy weather makes for a lousy ride. If it's all about saving money on gas, do what someone recommended: buy a cheap small car. The most fuel efficient of them almost equal my Burgman 650 in fuel mileage; I get 37 mpg with my Yaris and 47 with the Burgman.

    Get an econobox; stay warm and dry; and enjoy the ride when the weather's cooperating.
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  18. chazbird

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    Do it. Been on motorycles for 40+ years. I had '64 a Lambretta 175 in the early 80's, some would say now that's a scooter, but not one for a 35 mile commute. I now have a BV250 pretty much as my only transportation. Sure, a 350-650 would probably be a better freeway bike, but the 250's do fine. The windshield on the BV was horrible, terrible buffeting, so off it went. At speed I thought I'd still have good protection with the leg shields and clean air around the helmet. The latter is true, while the former is not so true. The air spills over and dumps right down into my lap. If its cold, well then, it's bothersome like cold, even with decent ballistic type pants on. So, scooters, like motorcycles, have windshield issues and unintended consequences when you start mucking around with them. Other than that I can't think of a better around town and commute tool. I love just hoping on and riding. When you aren't out for some sort of visceral experience not having to shift is also great and you still get the fun of being on two wheels without few, if any, hassles. I truly enjoy being a "non-entity" on a scooter too, no ego in the ride nor ego perceived by others - its nice to be anonymous. All in all just about everything is easier on an appropriate scooter. I also average 74 mpg (low 68-high 83)
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  19. Octarine

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    I sold my goldwing and my 750 suzuki and bought a silverwing. Unfrortunately the ergos are just not right and ive got it for sale. Im gonna go back to something that fits me better. The S'wing is a great scooter, fast and reliable and dead easy to work on-I just did the 12k svce including valve adjustment and it was a breeze.
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  20. gumshoe4

    gumshoe4 Been here awhile

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    Converted from Kawasaki Vulcan 750 to Silverwing and from BMW R1100R to BV500.

    No regrets at all. Both scooters do everything I need for them to do. The BV is new, so haven't got much perspective yet on the maintenance, but appears to be easy to work on and I'm hearing anecdotally that the BV500s are solid, well-built, reliable machines. That is certainly the case with the SWing, which I've owned now for almost two years. Both are comfortable, have good power, handle well and are frankly a lot more user-friendly than the motorcycles I owned. I won't be going back...made that mistake once with the BMW and found that these aging bones and joints just don't do well with a standard motorcycle anymore...totally different story with the SWing and BV.

    The SWing and I are heading out on a tour of the Pacific Northwest next month...yes, it's that good.
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