Anyone hooked up a Trail Tech Vapor?

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  1. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    Just picked up a 1987 Honda (Super) Magna and the guy lowsided it. I'm replacing various parts and outraged to see how much people want for these parts on fleabay. A slightly damaged guage cluster is $150! A decent shape one is $175-200!!

    Since mine is mashed I'm toying with the idea of tricking my bike out with installing a Vapor with dash. Wanting to find anyone who has done similiar to their street bike, hopefully with pics. (I've installed and used one on my XR650R but never on a streetbike or with the TrailTech dash.)

    I think it would go great mounted with my new updated headlight. Would mount it just to the front of the triples.
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  2. Beezer

    Beezer Long timer

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    another choice...
    http://www.acewell-meter.com/

    I've been running one on my KLR for about 4 years - works great. Not as tinny as the Vapor I had on my DRZ. quality can change tho
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  3. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    Yeah I think Acewells are the one to have but I'm trying to keep it under $160 total with dash and all.
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  4. malokam

    malokam Been here awhile

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    Vapors are awesome. I have one on my DR650. I have the Dash too, but I have to say, unless you get something like a "Highway Dirt Bike" top clamp setup, it doesnt feel solid. (Im talking only about the Vapor-Dash, the plastic casing for the actual vapor which hosts indicator lights)

    If you are fine with the tacho being a bit laggy at higher RPMs, go ahead and get it. There are few for sale every now and then in the Flea market. I dont have any pics but wil try and snap some when I get a chance.
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  5. Assfault

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    Put one one my wee strom in leiu of the stock gauge display.
    Not hard really, just get a manual with the electrical scematics and hook up the wiring.
    I built a custom mount to bolt it to. Pretty easy.
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  6. bgoodsoil

    bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid

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    I mounted one onto a Pelican case. I ride offroad regularly and it's never given a hint of breaking. I drilled 2 3/8" holes into the back of the pelican case. The bolts that hold on the handlebar clamps go into those holes.

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    There's a more detailed write-up on the install in the thread in my sig. The vapor's not bad, but not great. The tach was made for a single cylinder and I've never been able to get a solid reading out of it. The temp sensor that goes under the spark plug caused a plug to back out once so I removed it. There's a sensor that tells you the outside temp too. If you park your bike in the sun it'll tell you it's 120 degrees out. The unit would've been better if they'd have left off a lot of the features that didn't work well. If I had to do it over again I think I'd get an acewell. I'd still mount it on the Pelican case though. It's a solid, waterproof dash for $12. I mounted a 12v outlet, my ignition switch, and the switches for extra lights and heated gear in it.
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  7. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    great. more pics plz.
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  8. JUANLABO

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    I mount a Vapor in my R100R transformed in a R100GS. I Bougth the aluminium protector and made a custom support.
    I did it three years ago and is running ok.

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  9. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    I'm curious to know how your who may have hooked the Vapor up did your tach wire. My bike is a v-4 with of course 2 ignition coils and 4 wires you (duh). Before I hook it up according ot the instrutions am i going to have any problems or faults with doing it to just the one of four plug wires?

    I know you can wrap it around the plug were itself or put the red wire from the Vapor into the stator wire coil spade. The coil obviously has 2 spade connectors. How do I know which of those goes to the coil?
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  10. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    Ok I'm halfway through hooking up the Vapor. I've got power to it. Got everything hooked up to it except the dash lights. Will try to tackle it tomorrow. Last few days have been spent doing the mount, painting some pieces and such.

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    Even installed a 12 v cell charger socket.
    Excuse the white fiberglass dust!
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  11. bgoodsoil

    bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid

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    looks good!
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  12. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    I'm not having much luck hooking up the dash lights though. I've only got 6 wires from the Vapor dash lights and trying to hook them up to the stock harness I cut off from the OEM wrecked gauge cluster which has bout 18 wires! I've been trying to use the wiring diagram to hook them up but no luck. I already blew one fuse trying to do it.

    Wish there was a guru who could help me!!!!
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    I'm thinking of putting a vapor unit on my 28 Indian for the Cannonball this year, as GPS's are not allowed, and for me to buy all the original stuff to put the correct speedo on it will cost me about 1500 bucks or so, (and it doesnt work so good anyhow) the vapor seems like a good idea.

    Is there a particular model I should get?

    Thanks, Doug
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  14. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    They sell one that is univeral for rightside up front forks. Rider's Discount or Siesmic Cycles has them fro $98 on fleabay including shipping!
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  15. gearheadE30

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    I have a vapor on my GS750E, and love it so far. I've got the dashboard as well. The tach signal can be a bit finicky; I was told that it will be a lot more stable if you wire a dedicated circuit directly to the battery, as it uses this voltage as a reference. I currently have mine wired off of what used to be the gauge backlight power (the bike had mechanical gauges) and whenever I hit the brakes or use my signals or anything, the signal jumps. The bike also has a 2-stage charging system that can work harder above around 5k revs, so when it switches over, the tach stops rising. It's a little odd.

    Also, if you install a temp sensor, note that the Vapor won't recognize that there is one plugged in until you do a trip meter reset, which is done by holding the center and left buttons iirc.
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  16. Michelangelo

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    yes this time on my 2nd Vapor I wired my ground and 12v directly to the battery. Which method did you do the tach wire? Wrap around plug wire or hook to one of the coil leads?

    I went out and messed around some more with the dash hookup. I finally go the turn signal indicator light working!!! Now I just got to get the rest of the 3! ugh.
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  17. Ghost_Mutant

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    I'd call up trailtech and ask, they have a good customer service rep around here.

    I have two vapors on my 83/4 Honda XR dirt bikes. The differences between various kits have to do with the sensors, and I'll bet there are differences in sensor cable lengths. If true, then you would want to get the sensors that would look good on your bike. The speedo cable for my XR is on the long side.:rofl

    The air cooled kits have a spark plug cyl head temp sensor, which we RFVC XR owners have installed on our head oil supply banjo bolt. The hole on the sensor is slightly larger than the banjo bolt, but carefully centering the sensor will get it to seal up just fine. This gives a nice oil temp reading.

    I wanted to use the magnet bolt that replaces one rotor mounting fastener. The alternative is to drill into the rotor and glue on the speed sensing magnet, which I didn't want to do in case I have to swap rotors after hitting rocks on the trail. Using the magnet bolt can be a problem if the sensor is located too far away. So I'd recommend carefully thinking about magnet and sensor location before drilling mounting holes:D

    The vapor is a cool little speedo/tach that does a bunch of other things too. Well worth the money.:clap
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    RFVC sensors?
    disc brakes?

    its a 1928 indian

    it DOES have ABS tho, that bastard wont lock up a wheel goin down a mud hill.

    :lol3
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  19. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    finally got the dash lights working. What a mess. The oem wiring diagram sheet wasn't entirely correct. After banging my head and blowing fuses I was able to get it hooked up. wheeewwwww.
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  20. Ghost_Mutant

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    Yeah, I knew you were going to say something like this after I posted my reply:evil. My 28 yr old RFVC with the disk is the newest bike I've ever owned. But I don't have anything as old as your 28 Indian.:thumbup

    It will be interesting to see how you attach the magnet to your wheel. Post a photo if/when you figure it out:D
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