Anyone know this setup?

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Jim K in PA, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. Jim K in PA

    Jim K in PA Long timer

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    Listed for sale not too far away - it is tempting/taunting me. 1975 R90S(?) with a cargo style hack, and what appears to be a really nicely set up tug. Leading link forks, handlebar m/c, car tire conversion, monoshock conversion, Heinrich tank. A bit rough around the edges, but I like 'em that way. :D

    If anyone has any insight into its history, please share.

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  2. chairhead

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    If im not mistaken the sidecar is by Inmate Claude,
    maybe he can shed some light on the outfit.
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  4. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Not totally sure who built the bike but the sidecar is one of ours. It is a cargo body although we could fit other body styles to the chassis. We put the combination together for Frank D. out of New York. Great guy and long time sidecarist. Frank also has a Hannigan HP outfit.
    The bike is an older build which did have a Steib on it. It has a decent leading link, mono shock rear suspension conversion, car tires etc as noted. Cool outfit.
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  5. Jim K in PA

    Jim K in PA Long timer

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    Claude - thanks for insight. It is located in NY. I have not contacted the seller, and the $7500 asking price is giving me pause. I suspect it is a good value for the setup, even though the bike is showing ~115k miles on it. I also would prefer a more traditional tub rather than the cargo box. Not sure if this is the right time or the right rig for me to dive into a sidecar with.
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  6. ooweel

    ooweel Jobless, Its OK!

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    Pretty neat rig. Fun to have the box while out by yourself trippin around. then have a spare tub that would seat others would make a nice combo.

    Sure looks Bitchin tho.
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  7. Dan Alexander

    Dan Alexander Ride Far - Ride Fast

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    Buy the rig and I'll trade you that sidecar for my rebuilt Dnepr sidecar. You'll love it :evil

    Seriously, a decent 90S is worth $5k, used LL $1500, Heinrich tank $1k plus the fairing and swingarm mods so the bike alone is worth the asking price.
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  8. warkshop

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    Dan has it nailed!. You could also mod that body to haul folk. Cut/weld/grind/paint/repeat. There is a bunch of value there, trick is has how well or not does the old girl run,,,if it don't run then it is a huge risk,,,,might win,,,might not.
    What is the price anyway??
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    :lol3Oops! OK $7500,,,,if that thing runs well run, don't walk there and buy it!

    With the caveat that this is a custom and such like beasties generally require a hands on owner who can wrench and maybe even weld. If you are like many and aren't allowed to change the spark plug in your lawnmower (for fear you'd screw it up) stand away for the custom!:D
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    Heck, i just had another look. For goodness sake just take the big hinged lid off and put a Mazda Miata seat in there,,,,,begin passenger hauling:clap!
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    That is really neat I'd go for it.....
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  12. Jim K in PA

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    Thanks for all the encouragement from my fellow crack heads. More crack for everybody! :rofl

    Bob - mechanical aptitude is not the issue. I am just wrestling with the notion of getting into a sidecar now when I am still "fettling" my R100T, and teaching my boys to ride. But . . . THAT rig is 90% of what I would want in a hack, with the lone exception being lack of 2WD. And the (solvable) passenger seat issue.

    The rig is represented as a fully sorted, turn-key ride.

    Looks like I might have to make the trip to NY. And beat up my tax advisor for a big refund. :evil
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  14. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    We could do a different body to go on that frame. Could also do a smaller hatch on the larger one to accommodate a passenger. You could also cource a used body to put on thef sidecar frame.
    If it is the type of rig you want as far a mechanicals go it may be a great deal for you. Add uo the estimated cost of reproducing the outfit minus th esideca rbody and I think you will see what we are talking about.
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  15. Jim K in PA

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    Claude - if this rig comes into my possession, you and I will be speaking. :) I am less than 2 hours from you. This cargo box looks like it has the lid within a lid, so it appears a number of options may exist to create a passenger access friendly box.

    I have reached out to the seller.
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    :clap:clapGreat!!! If i were a bit more,,,,'solvent' let's say i'd be on that like stink on poo! After you of course.

    BTW, I've taken one wheel drive hack outfits in some pretty ugly places. I did have seriously chunky tires on the bike.Unless you really want to wade into the poo deep i'd say 2 wd is overkill,,,great for pissing/bragging rights,,,,,if you care about such things,,,surely you don't!?

    You could do a bit of smart fab (check out those builds from the clever folk from down under) and add a winch setup that allows you to pull front or rear and you would be pooing in tall cotton. You should note those serious on/off road rigs from waaaaay down south don't have 2 wheel drive.:lol3
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    True enough, Bob. I am not into bragging or "look at me" bikes at all. The 2WD is something that I am not hung up on, just something I think could be useful. However, I think this rig being set up for car tires would probably do just fine with good set of Hakkafilipawhatever or studded blizzaks in the snow. If this rig is set up as I would have it, all three wheels take the same tire size, so a single spare tire could be hauled along for big trips, and appropriate tires fitted for the anticipated conditions.

    Winches - meh. I do a fair bit of rock crawling and off-road exploring in my Jeep LJ Rubicon, and a winch is great if properly used. But, I would be hesitant though to use one on a sidecar rig. I would rather carry and use a couple of snatch blocks and some synthetic rope and haul it out of a hole manually, and avoid damaging the rig during the extrication process.

    Can you tell I have been thinking about this for a while? :lol3
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    I truly believe you could not come anywhere near building that outfit for the asking price,,,it is a lot of dough,,,,but there is a lot there.
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    Just heard back from the seller via email. It is Frank, and his cargo box is from Claude. :wink:

    He said the rig was set up for sidecar racing in the late 70s, so has some specific bracing for that purpose on the frame. :hmmmmm

    I'll be calling him, and looking for a volunteer to let me take a test ride on a hack before I commit to anything! I don't think my first ride on a hack should be on the streets of Brooklyn NY. :eek1
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  20. Jim K in PA

    Jim K in PA Long timer

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    The wife and I finally got over to NY to take a look at this rig. It is all there, honest as the day is long. Dellorto carbs were a bit cranky but it started without too much fuss after sitting since the fall. It needs some TLC and a tire or two, but I think we can make this rig work for us. I have to talk to Claude about trading the cargo box for a passenger box, but I think we could even modify the cargo box to work. We'll see. I'll start a new thread if/when it comes home with us.

    This week we are off to a land free of snow and sub-freezing temperatures. We'll work out the details after we get back.

    Thanks for all the input.
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