Anyone out there have the Sena SMH10?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by sixsevenfive, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    So tbenzie, you are correct. The SMH5 doesn't have any 3 or 4 way conferencing ability on its own. I guess that is the biggest thing going for the SMH10 these days other than distance, battery, and MP3 port on the mount.


    It still technically can be involved in a 3 way by connecting to an SMH10 or say that 2 riders on a motorcycle both have SMH10's and both passengers have SMH5's. With the two SMH10's linked in the middle, there could be a 4 way between the 4 of them.

    The SMH5 recently got the multipoint upgrade in v1.2, but that was it.

  2. danham

    danham Been here awhile

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    Procrastination pays off, again! Thanks BL!

    An easy way to think of the 5 vs 10 issue is that only the 10 can act as a bridge. A 5 can participate in a "conference" but cannot act as a bridge to enable that.

    The only other small point to add is that the "how many taps" question can seem complicated, but it's really just like a stack of dishes. The very last dish put on the pile gets the "address" of one tap for intercom. Next dish down -- the headset you paired to before Mr. One-Tap -- gets assigned the address of two taps, etc. Seems backwards, but the newest guy is always One Tap.

    I can't recall if the 5 and 10 have different numbers of intercom pairing slots available, but I do know that when they fill up it bumps the oldest one, so no need to erase or do a reset to get rid of old ones.

    As for pairing order, I agree that it's not an issue, BUT, power-up order can be fussy with some systems. I find the most reliable sequence is to turn on my iPhone first, then the SR-10, then put on my helmet and power up the SMH-10 (so I can hear it acknowledge finding both phone and the SR-10), then turn on the devices wired to the SR-10 last so that I can also hear them join the party and verify they are working.

    Have fun!

    -dan
  3. tbenzie

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    It's all becoming clearer. Thank you so much!

    I fully expect to be upgrading to more capable units if the SMH5/SR10/VHF thing works out for us. We're just starting out with a couple units for a trial run. The big test -and big difference from the Collets from a usability standpoint - will be the PTT switch manipulation and potential delay when first opening the audio channel. I expect advantages of the 2-way range, no persistent vox keying, quality, robustness, less finickyness (I hope), etc of the Sena equipment far far outweigh that minor inconvenience. The safety factor of communication ability is much greater when snowmobiling than motorcycling, I believe - tight, twisty trails in the woods with hills, rocks, logs, deer and other sleds approaching you at 50 mph on a 12' wide trail so reliability and range are key.A few in our group don't ride motorcycles so if the SMH5's work out with the 2-ways, they'll become proud new owners of SMH5's and I will be upgrading to the next best thing. I think the BT conferencing intercom will be great for motorcycling.

    Again, I truly appreciate all the effort and time you've spent educating me. Hopefully I can do in kind some day.
  4. Downs

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    Turns out yes it does have a 2 year warranty and I now have a RMA number for my unit.


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  5. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    glad we could help :norton
  6. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist

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    Don't discount the utility of the MP3 port. I found some fairly easy directions (if you can do simple soldering) on how to convert that MP3 port on the mount to a plug for earbuds. I bought another helmet clamp just so I can do that mod and then replace the helmet clamp I'm using now with that one.

    I think it will be really convenient to have speakers in my helmet AND be able to use earbuds when I want. For short trips around town, I can use the speakers in the helmet and still be able to receive phone calls or listen to music if I want - without futzing with putting earbuds in and out. And then for real rides, I'll put my earbuds in to get that noise blocking and much better sound quality.
  7. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    That is pretty awesome and I totally agree with you. I have quite a few of the bases including the one with the earbud plug in on one of my helmets, but yeah it forces you to always use the the earbuds and that isn't always convenient around town. I really only like using that when I'm going on long trips, but then I'm forced to wear that helmet instead of my regular one. Plus I had one of the early bases where the earbud port was easy to break and I did. That MP3 port is built in so much more sturdy plugging in your headphones.

    So have you done the mod yet? Do you mind linking the directions you found or PM'ing them to me. I would definitely be interested in trying that and I have like 4 of the regular bases, so I can try with one to see how it works.
  8. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    Well I found that it has been on the request list for Sena for awhile now (over a year) with lots of support. Such a shame Sena hasn't come out with this type of base plate combo as they'd probably sell a bunch of them. - http://support.senabluetooth.com/en...eaker-earphone-baseplate?page=1#post_22813852

    This guy shows how he added a headphone jack to his standard setup, but its not actually attached to the base, but rather to his helmet. - http://waggies.net/Ken/Sena/

    This guy converted a speaker clamp to be a headphone jack by using the included MP3 port, but he didn't keep the speakers in the mix. One of the issues that comes up is the headphone jack has a 75ohm resister in the setup while the speaker one doesn't since headphones usually don't need as much power to get as loud - http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=828750
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  10. acejones

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    Paging BlueLightening to the courtesy phone !!! Or anyone with an answer

    I just installed my new SMH10b into my helmet. I using a Samsung Galaxy 3 and a Zumo 550. Everything seems to work pretty good except when I am listening to music from the Phone it is cutting in and out. Its almost like the circuit is looking for something. Its pretty annoying to the extent that listening to music just is a hassle.

    HELP please !
  11. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    Every once and I while I get that with my Crack Berry. Did you install the latest version of firmware on the SMH10? They don't always come with the newest software.


    Setting the SMH10 back to factory defaults (directions in manual), remove the SHM10 pairing from the phone, then repairing everything can fix it.

    PS: Anytime you upgrade the firmware, be SURE to start over again with factory settings as defined above.
  12. acejones

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    Thanks,
    I'll try that tomorrow.
  13. Cataract2

    Cataract2 Where to?

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    I'm using the Samsung Galaxy 3.6 media player. Had the same issue. I got the PowerAmp app to handle my music and it fixed the issue. Seems the stock player for the Galaxy blows. The PowerAmp app lets you adjust many tweaks like buffer levels and priority.
  14. Downs

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    Two days after shipping my SENA in a flat rate box they are already sending me another unit :clap
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    Oshiat Been here awhile

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    They did the same when mine failed. Awesome service!

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  16. Cataract2

    Cataract2 Where to?

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    Same here. I was surprised that they sent out the new stuff already. This is one of the reasons why I recommend them.
  17. Downs

    Downs KK6RBI

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    This was on a unit that was 3 months away from warranty expiration. Glad to see they stand by that 2 year warranty :norton
  18. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    Mine will do that if I tap the jog dial as if to make a BT intercom connection. I think the unit then begins making repeated attempts to connect to another BT headset and pauses or drops the music channel briefly during each attempt. A tap on the jog dial to tell it do disconnect any intercom connections will fix it.
  19. acejones

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    That makes good sense. I think this really the issue.
  20. acejones

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    Well I tried that and I thought the problem was solved........then it returned.