Anyone try Adventurepipe Exhaust Yet?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by lofdog1313, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. lofdog1313

    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    Hi all,

    About to take the plung for an exhaust upgrade and was about to order some akra's. Then I stumbled on these adventurepipe's which I hadn't heard of before. Basically I believe a modified supertrap with some nice stated peeps? Anyone have first hand knowledge of these? Here's what they claim I'm about to bite!!!! Smarter part of me said ask you Pro's!!!!
    http://adventure-motorcycle.com/store/?name=Catalog&mode=i&item=000006
    Any imput much appriciated.

    Get 5 more ponies, a beautiful sound, USFS approved spark arrestor, and backpressure/flow/loudness adjustability in a great looking, durable Stainless Steel exhaust system. AME (Adventure Motorcycle Equipment) adapts SuperTrapp silencers to the KTM 950 offering the best value KTM exhaust system on the planet.
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  2. ktm frank

    ktm frank frenchy adventurer

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    i just bought the new fmf pipe at my local ktm dealer and the sound is just
    amazing.Not quite as loud as akro without the insert but much louder than stock.i compare that sound to a ducati its very deep and very mean.
    i rode a 950 with the akros they are cool,loud and very expensive also very lightweight since there made out of titanium. the fmf are lightweight also i compare the weight of the stock and the fmf and its almost unreal.the ktm advertising says that you will shave 10,9 lbs and its true.have fun both models are cool almost same sound and 350$ cheaper

    Frank
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  3. lofdog1313

    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    I appriciate your response. Did you happen to check these adventure pipe out? Money was part of the issue for me to start looking for a comparable yet cheaper pipe to the akro's. I had finally said screw it and was going to pay for the akro's when I found these. What I liked was the fact they had an approved spark arrester along with adjustable sound level, no jetting etc mod's required, lighter, more HP, etc. as per most after market exhaust. Just hate to be the first dummy to take the chance without more reliable evidence. Sounds real good though and at $649 a nice drop from the akro's???????:baldy
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  4. Don Lemelin

    Don Lemelin Scuderia West

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    http://www.ktmtwins.com/950adventure/273965.html
    If you're looking for value it doesn't come cheaper, especialy for a spark arestered system...
    cheers.
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  5. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    It would be sweet if one side could be used for storage, like the one they make for the F650GS.

    JG
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  6. Craig Connor

    Craig Connor Adventurer

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    I tried a pair of http://adventure-motorcycle.com pipes. They are SuperTraps pipe. They are good pipe I just didn't like them and sold them to someone on this forum a year or so ago they were just to loud for me.
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  7. rider914

    rider914 Agnostic Adventurer

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    I've got the supertrapps (same thing). Bought from someone on this board (though not Craig) who also found them too loud. I don't mind the sound much. Better than stock but not as smooth or pleasing as others. Need occaisional repacking to keep em sounding nice. I've tried different numbers of discs with no noticeable change in sound or performance. I'll probably switch to FMFs when time ($$) is right.

    FMFs also have approved spark-arrestor, sound better, and are cheaper (new). In a nutshell, get the FMFs.

    -M
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  8. lofdog1313

    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    Thats what I was looking for thanks guys. I want loud and and something thats will get your attention and hold it. If I lived where I did my entire life San Diego then noise and residential areas would make noise a factor. But unfortunately I live in Missouri now and well not to make fun of it but I really could care less if I bother a hillbilly riding there lawnmowers and burning leaves everyday. No good riding nearby that I know of offroad that is, which being of the old Moto-x mindset is all I care about anyways. About all they got thats any fun around here is miles and miles of gravel roads. So loud more power and less weight is all I'm looking for. As for having to tuning mod's I'm really not looking to mess with that. Just bolt on and fly. :rilla

    That being said will the akro's require any tuning mod's and if not and money isn't a factor which way you go then? Akro's or FMF?

    Not that I'm rich or anything like that but when your stuck in the middle of nowhere and have nothing really that you enjoy but your bike why not make it scream? Ya know. Oh and there isn't a dealer within the entire state that services the 950. I went 400 miles in 15 degree weather on it for the 600k serevice and I don't think they did a dam thing besides change the oil and charged me $600!!!!! Didn't even fill it up with oil!!!!! Last time for that crap. :topes

    Thanks for all the help guys.

    Cheers :slurp

    Lof
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  9. lofdog1313

    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    While I was at the site I noticed the LeoVince X3 is on sale for $499 whats the scoop on these considering my prior post comments?

    Cheers

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  10. Don Lemelin

    Don Lemelin Scuderia West

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    Nice quality kit but the loudest of the bunch..... no returns due to blown ear drums...
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    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    Thanks Don,

    So thats in your honest opinion a good price and would be what I'm looking for? Also if you know do they required tuning mod's?

    Cheers,

    Lof

    PS Hearing went away in the early 70's with downswept no baffle 2 stroke chambers. It used to be flag start with first come lane choice so sometimes you'd sit there through 3 or 4 other moto starts and get blasted. Of course later that night it was a concert. That was 30 years ago and my ears are still ringing. :rilla
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  12. BigMac

    BigMac Been here awhile

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    I was told the Vinci X3 violates the db scale at 102db's at 4500 rpm at 1m!! That is LOUD and will definitely piss off the local USFS rangers...even if the pipe does have an approved spark screen.

    I was told the FMF Q is being discontinued. Knowing a few folks that have that set of cans, the quality is not great, basically you get what you pay for. The exhaust pulse of the big bore v-twin tends to blow out the packing pretty quickly and the spark screen gets burned up after only 4-5 days of hard riding. The good news however is that FMF has developed a new 950 can called the Ti Q. No screen to burn up as it uses a USFS approved turbine arrestor that is claimed to be a lifetime design. The Ti can is also lighter weight and runs cooler than the original aluminum skinned Q. Not sure if the new model will offer longer lasting packing. They do claim it meets 96db sound limit required by USFS, in fact it meets this limit with a couple db's to spare yet blows as free at top end as the Akra's.

    Frankly, most dyno's I've see on this bike show very little is gained performance wise by a can, the bike just runs much cooler, loses at least 10lbs up high and you get a USFS approved spark arrestor...at least in case of FMF, though not w/Akra, Staintune or Remus. The only downside to new FMF is the price: $899. Still less than Akra but for low mass, lifetime spark arrestor, reduced heat, not too loud exhaust note and hopefully good durability, it seems well priced. Again, you get what you pay for. Take care
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  13. lofdog1313

    lofdog1313 lofdog1313

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    Thanks for all the info really helpful only now look like everything sucks LMAO. Guess I'll get the Vince and if they carrying a sound testing device see what kind of top end they give me. :hung Don't know if they require tuning Mod's do you?

    Cheers,

    Lof
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  14. Offsome

    Offsome Been here awhile

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    I have run the supper trapps for 15.000 mi and like them. I don't think they are that loud but my last bike was a 02 Harley with python 3s and they were real loud.
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  15. d37rider

    d37rider Love those twins!

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    The bad news is I sold my 04 GO!!! (like an idiot)
    But the good news is I just bought my buddies Orange S.
    So what does that mean. I'll tell you......

    My GO! I messed with alot to get the jetting, surging, stalling, EPA, bugs worked out. After many tear downs and rejets I came up with the following. Which is/was seat of the pants dyno testing but after many years of finicking, I feel good about it. And after purchasing this Orange (fast, my ass) bike, I feel even better about my jetting and I am happier with my results.

    My GO!!!!! (Fast and beautiful) bike had
    Leo Vince X3 exhaust baffles out
    Air screws 2.5 turns out.
    pilot 42 (stock)
    Stock needles middle clip (3)
    160 front 165 rear
    Air box door mod
    No Evap or air injection
    Performance to me was perfect!!

    This Orange (not as fast or pretty, YET) has
    Akra's baffles out
    Pilot 3 turns out
    Stock needles 3rd clip
    Stock mains
    Air box mod
    No evap or air injection
    Performance, felt like it was missing something when you roll it on hard, like a restrictor plate on the intake. Idle'd Ok, but still popped on decel, not bad. I like my Leo's sound better without baffles (Leo's have a deeper sound without the baffles)
    So I increased the main's one size and brought the air screw back down to 2.5
    Ran much, much better. But the interesting part is to me it feels just as fast with the baffles in. So after many months and miles, with a loud 950. I have a quiet fast (not beautiful, yet) Orange 950 with 3000 miles.
    I will transfer this Orange beast into something better than my GO!!!! because I am so dissapointed that I let her GO!!!! but that's life. This baby was actually a Non "S" converted to an "S" by Z racing, in Anaheim. When he converted it, he stiffened up the suspension a little. It is defenetly noticable on the hwy but feels was more flickable. My Go!! felt heavier because of the mushy suspension. the front end doesn't dive much at all when braking hard. I really can't wait to romp this one in the dirt. Z racing did a nice job on the suspension.
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  16. zaptoad

    zaptoad just a guy

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    I agree that the Supertrapp's ( sold as Adventure-pipe ) can be a little on the loud side but this can be fixed. Historically with Supertrapp, power means loud. But don't forget the best part, they are very adjustable. Ususally for the 950, they recommend 4 to 8 disks. So when I got mine, I started with 6 disks, middle of the road. It was "too" loud, the wife complained, and by reading other threads most were using 5 disks. So I backed it off to 5 disks. This is the interesting part, even my wife noticed the reduction in power from just one disk. We decided that reducing it to 4 disks would be an unexceptable lose in power. Yes, she does like to ride fast too, a good woman. As we stood back away from the bike discussing the dilemma, noise vs: power, I commented to her that one could actually "see" inside the mufflers. Well, Duh! The tailpipes are excptionally short, so I grabbed 2 pieces of pipe that were lying there and held them up to the tailpipes. This made a huge reduction in noise. Step 2 was a test dummy, 2 inch OD pipe 4 inches long siliconed inside the end caps and off we went for a test drive. It was wonderful sounding and very tolerable. The next step was a permanent fix, we had 4 inches of stainless steel TIG'ed on the inside of the caps. Now our little LC8 has little down spouts and little noise too. But wait, here's the best part. We are also running 8 disks in each muffler, carbs jetted to match, and baby is really, really fast.
    Mommy and Daddy are both very happy! :freaky

    On another note, I also learened not to use the "nyloc's" that come in the kit that hold the mufflers on to the frame. Problem is, when you add heat the nylon melts and permanently glues everything together. When you try to disassemble it, the threads strip and you are forced to break the bolts in half to get them off. The cure is to put a piece of steel tubing in the rubber gromet and then use a regular ss bolt & split washer.

    FWIW......
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  17. rider914

    rider914 Agnostic Adventurer

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    Any pics?
    Jetting specs?
    :ear :ear :ear

    -M
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  18. zaptoad

    zaptoad just a guy

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    I figured if I said anything, pictures should have followed. Me bad. I will take some tonight and post them tomorrow morning.

    On jetting, elevation plays a large roll and I live at 3,000 feet. My air horn has been openned up a little to match my pipes. Mains are stock, needle clip in middle, pilots are set 2 & 3/8 turns out. I am currently looking for a different air cleaner. Charcoal canister and SAS stripped. Something I ran into when re-venting the overflow on the gas tanks you may have already found too........the original KTM tank vent spigots on still inside the directional side covers. Look for the little pin hole on the radiator side and stick your hand inside the cover to feel for it. Its molded right into the plastic. All one has to do is connect the tank overflow to the spigots and not worry about where to route the lines outside.

    My bike is a black (and yes it does make a difference :evil )2005.5 and just missed the crank oil orifice recall. KTM did say that it was affected by the crankcase breather valve recall, but I checked and it already has the 2 groove valve installed. So far, I have been luckier than my friend, who bought the orange one sitting right next to it on the dealer's floor.....

    This is a carb jetting update. As it turns out, the wife ended up in the hospital and I made several high speed runs from home and back. The pipes started to show a lean condition, so I rejetted the mains to 60 & 65. Color looks much better now, lite brown to chocolate. I will also point out that with my air horn mod, I can hear the carbs alittle, right around the 3,000 rpm range but goes away by 4,000. Bike pulls nicely from 2,000 on up. FWIW
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  19. zaptoad

    zaptoad just a guy

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    Thought I'd add a side shot too! The trick is to get them out past the saddle bags. In the stock config, we noticed the pipes were louder when we had the saddle bags on, like an echo chamber. With the extensions, the crackle is gone with rumble remaining.
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