Anyone try carfax?

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  1. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    I am lacking the fundage to buy a new car so a used one is going to have to do. I saw the carfax ad on TV and thought what the hell, might as well try it. Well, I did and it costs $40 bucks minimum. www.carfax.com


    What say ye peeps? Is it worth it or not? :ear
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  2. epicxcrider

    epicxcrider Been here awhile

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    I did it once, never bothered again - but I buy from people I can trust.
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  3. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    Buying from people you can trust?? :rofl

    Yeah, that is nice. Seems like the people you like most can hurt you the most too. Sorry, I'm just a crazy old man. :gerg

    If you know the personal history of the vehicle that would be the next best thing.

    Thanks for the input anyway.
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  4. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    The site does have some good free info though, like a lemon checker for the car I was looking at...


    CARFAX Lemon CheckĀ® Results

    1. GOOD NEWS! No Manufacturer Buyback or Lemon records were found for this 2000 CHEVROLET CAVALIER Z24.*
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    3. IMPORTANT! These 23 records may confirm a clean history or reveal costly hidden problems such as:
      • Salvage History?
      • Multiple owners?
      • Odometer fraud?
      • Major accident damage?
      • Flood damage?
      • Fire damage?
    4. Learn the details about this 2000 CHEVROLET CAVALIER Z24, or any other vehicle you are considering buying, by ordering the complete CARFAX Vehicle History Report.
    <FORM method=get name=checkForm action=https://secure.carfax.com/creditCard.cfx><INPUT value=CFS_0 type=hidden name=partner> <INPUT value=1G1JF12T5Y7445801 type=hidden name=VIN> <INPUT value="2000 CHEVROLET CAVALIER Z24" type=hidden name=Vehicle> <INPUT value=hybrid type=hidden name=request_type> <INPUT value=N type=hidden name=suggest> </FORM>
    Order CARFAX Report!
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  5. HapHazard

    HapHazard Waiting for Gudenov

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    Several years ago I had a one month Carfax subscription. My mother in law was looking to buy a used car and it was helpful (the car she wanted most was indeed "clean") and gave her some peace of mind. At the time, I think it was only $20 for a month.

    BTW, I would strongly suggest you not buy any 2000 Cavalier - Z24 or not.
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  6. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    Well, it is cheap. Didn't take a test drive. I just don't have $$$ now for a good car. Just need to get to work and get good fuel mileage. I have the $$$ going into my new motorcycle.

    Here it is...

    http://www.bestbuymotorsusa.com/2000_Chevrolet_Cavalier_160727430.veh#

    What's wrong with it (other than the stupid hood scoops)? Now I see. At the dealer the paper in the window said 118k miles, not 188k...

    I bought a 1997 GMC for cheap 5 years ago ($2000) and it has been a pretty good truck.
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  7. HapHazard

    HapHazard Waiting for Gudenov

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    Seriously, if the bucks are low and its reliable transport you want, I'd suggest an older elderly-owned or "estate" car. Someone's grandma's car with low miles on it usually (at least around here) goes cheap. They usually have been maintained and not beat on (like the "racey" Z24 - which are not reliable cars).
    Sure, it's not cool, but it's inexpensive, reliable transport.
    Besides, that Cav won't get you any tail, either.:lol3
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  8. arcanum

    arcanum Been here awhile

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    The National Insurance Crime Bureau has a free service called VinCheck that will check for theft and also if the car has a salvage title in its history.
    nicb.org

    I used this and also the BMV of my state to trace a motorcycle title from inception to the present day. what is pretty cool is the vin number is all it took to pull up the title history at the BMV site. Not foolproof, but it may help you weed out some obvious bad choices before you decide to use a paid service for additional information.
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  9. boardrider247

    boardrider247 Weekend Anarchist

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    Most dealers have a subscription to carfax. If you know someone who works at a dealers they can probably grab you a report or two.

    If I were buying a used car from a dealer I would make them provide the report, because yes they most likely have a subscription.
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  10. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    NICB eh?

    https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck

    Cool.

    NICB's VINCheck is a service provided to the public to assist in determining if a vehicle has been reported as stolen, but not recovered, or has been reported as a salvage vehicle by cooperating NICB members. To perform a search, a Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) is required. A maximum of five VINCheck searches can be conducted within a 24-hour period per IP address.
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  11. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    Carfax works OK but there are "holes" in some reports. Depends on lots of variables like: if a car got fixed, if it should have been fixed, if it was fixed & should not have been,if the insurance was used to fix the car vs. not which means it might have been fixed but not turned in and could or could not have been a good repair, who fixed a car-skillset etc., if the reports were turned in or not, if the car was totaled combined with IF that got on the title, if the car was serviced regularly or by wrong guy or if it was highway miles or city miles.
    Get the picture? Know cars is a must to narrow your chances of a good used car. If you have the ability or the opportunity to check it out is a factor-I know cars/bikes,etc., but the vehicle may be out of state in some cases & usually it is. The average seller will not know much about what they are selling but there are many clues to look for and they don't all come from Carfax. Sure it can help a lot but not a fix. I just sold my Cady-a beautiful very nice car that had 2 "carfax bad marks" saying it had been repaired. One mark was a very minor parking lot bumper ding that was easily repaired & the other was hail damage that was mostly removed via paintless work and so the sale of the car was somewhat "tainted" by the carfax even though the car was a jewel.
    Ask lots of the right questions and SEE!!! as much as you can about a car before you buy. Pay a pro to evaluate it before purchase if need be & know when the time is right to get a pro to look. This could go on for a long time.:D
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  12. gspdbill

    gspdbill noobie allover again

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    I personally prefer AutoCheck but it's safe to do both. I've found minimal details on one service while the other had several details. Yes, they've both gone up in price (and not in relation to their quantity of details) so it's hit or miss.
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  13. CA_Strom

    CA_Strom Cunning Linguist

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    My 2003 VW GTI had a spotless clean carfax two years after I ran over a huge ladder at 80mph, tearing the entire underbody up. $11k in suspension, bodywork, new wheels/brakes, and still a clear carfax. I traded the car in to a Honda dealer....
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  14. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    Carfax only "knows" what someone else "tells them".They are not a detective agency for cars but a repository of info.. Carfax downgrades a car based on certain information thats doesn't always mean the car is a "bad one".Either an insurance company or a dealer,etc.. If I wreck my car & pay privately for a repair it will not show up-some total wrecks get sold with the original title unbranded to another owner as a "clean title" car,very common & it doesn't bother me as long as it is stated as a damaged or repaired vehicle with full disclosure.
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  15. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    THIS^
    Nine years ago I bought a car with a "clean" Carfax. The pre-existing shoddy crash repair was not obvious until a body shop had to pull the rear bumper off after a kid nudged me during an emergency stop. Of course, the bumper replacement from the 3 mph nudge showed up on the Carfax 6 years later when I traded the car, even though the extent of that damage was a quarter sized paint chip.:huh
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  16. Gillus

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    Traded in my wife's Avalon. It was involved in a collision, a 16 yr old brat ran a stop sign and out in front of her, she hit the brakes and ran into him. It scratched the plastic wrap arouond bumper and creased the plastic bit so their insurance paid to replace it and the Styrofoam 5mph cushion underneath it which did its job in the collision. It took the body shop 20 minutes to install the freshly painted front bumper piece. Not a bad accident and an easy repair.

    Well............ Carfax has it shown as a major accident which required towing and the vehicle was disabled and .............. :topes :ddog

    Well........ the accident the kid caused and got a citation for just cost me about a grand in trade in value because the car has a bad Carfax. :deal
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  17. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    Sounds like the dealer should be able to show it to you for free. Because they have the unlimited subscription. So asking for it and getting it for free at the dealer should be fairly easy.

    As far as the replies it seems like it's a 50/50 shot. It MAY help for some insight into the car's past. But you can't really know what the history is unless you owned it yourself.
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  18. mark1305

    mark1305 Old Enough To Know Better

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    I have a Jeep Wrangler that's basically a 89 YJ on a rebuilt title as a 84 CJ. Carfax showed clean clear title. (The seller did disclose the title up front, and FrankenJeeps aren't uncommon at all).
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  19. groop

    groop So much to ponder

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    I would think the repair bills, along with the Carfax would have been sufficient evidence to the contrary. Maybe the dealer was screwing you on the trade in?
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  20. Gillus

    Gillus High Desert Rat

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    Yes we may have been :viking but what ya gonna do. A dealer will say the Carfax is the bible to their customer. After we got thru with the deal the salesman wouldn't come close to me cuz I would have :bash him up verbally. I did chat with the finance guy till he let me know what the salesman said is not true and then understood what I was pissed about (stuff other than the carfax). If my wife hadn't wanted that exact car, color and interior color etc I would have said :flip and walked out.
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