Anyone try the Sedici Hotwire heated gear?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by bikefree, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. Bill Harris

    Bill Harris Confirmed Curmudgeon

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    I got the connectors at an electronics supply store. "DC Coaxial Plug" "-Socket" "-Jack", size is 5.5mm x 2.5mm. Radio Shack used to carry them ( and may still) , but the quality was iffy. No need to pay premium prices for an adapter you can easily make.

    Search digikey.com or mouser.com, the are good mail order houses.

    --Bill
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  2. gunnr

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    I got one at the Cycle gear here in Vanc, WA last week. 10 bucks.....
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  3. Plane Dr

    Plane Dr Been here awhile

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    Anyone know if tour master plugs are the same size? They have a variety of cables and such. They all seem reasonably priced.
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  4. Mr_McBride

    Mr_McBride 'The Cartographer'

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    I bought the jacket liner and gloves. Here is my experience.

    The first jacket liner, no voltage that the glove pigtails. Took the jacket liner back. Tested the second in the store with the gloves. Wired directly to a battery everything worked. This was on a Saturday. I had a trip planned for Sunday.

    Sunday morning. I pulled out of the garage at 04:40 in the morning. It was 29F. Got everything connected and the gloves would not come on. Same issue. Rode an hour to meet my friend for the trip. My hands were cold at the point. I added a y-adapter ( not included ) and run extra wires ( included with the gloves ) to the gloves ( read as wired the gloves around the jacket liner controller ). Bingo, I was back in business. The glove pigtails are wired to the jacket liner and cannot be disconnected like the W&S liners can be. I have to assume that the gloves are supposed to receive power from the jacket liner but can be controller separately with their own built-in controller. However, since the jacket liner controls the voltage to the jacket liner I can't follow the logic of how this is supposed to work. Not being able to use the pigtails from the jacket liner ended up being a deal killer for me. I don't want extra wires just for the gloves.

    The jacket liner makes plenty of heat. I was wearing two piece gear and found that the lower section of my belly was a bit cool. No warmth from the jacket liner near the waist line. The included heat troller for the jacket liner was very nice. I found that the four selections of low, medium, hi, and max was perfect and the controller was very easy to use. I did not mount the jacket liner controller inside the jacket liner, though. I left it hanging just below my 3/4 jacket. No issues here.

    Now to the gloves....They are very bulky...too bulky for me. Each glove as it's own built-in controller. This means that when you want to make a change you have make the change on both gloves ( ie 2 steps ). This with the extra bulkiness ended up being a deal killer for me. There's no heat in the palm. However, the worst issue was that the wires for middle fingers are placed too close to your fingers. I ended up with blisters from second degree burns on both middle fingers. With that being said, the gloves did NOT heat so quickly as to cause the burns. The burns were the result from running the gloves on the medium setting for a long time ( about 14 hours to be exact ). It was a very slow process and I never noticed the burn until late into the ride. Oh, one more grip about the gloves. While it was easy to change the settings on the right glove while riding, making the change on the left glove required taking your hand off the throttle. Also, it was too difficult to power the gloves off or on completely as you have to press and hold the button for about 3 seconds. This was not hard to do with the left have, but taking the right hand off the throttle for 3 seconds doesn't work for me. And the built-in controller is difficult to see and use at all in the dark.

    I ended up taking the jacket liner and gloves back for a refund, which CG granted. I'll be spending the extra coin on W&S from now on.

    I did manage to stay warm with this gear, but the design and inconvenience was too much for me.

    For reference I rode 717 miles with this gear in temps ranging from 29F to 48.
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  5. Bill Harris

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    That is my take on the Sedici Hotwired brand, too. It was priced attractively, available locally and of passable quality. And it claims to have a "lifetime warranty", which will be tested.

    My first heated gear, it'll serve for general/hazardous use, but for the future Transcon Trips, I'll go W&S.

    --Bill
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  6. Mr_McBride

    Mr_McBride 'The Cartographer'

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    The package clearly states "1 year warranty".
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  7. ezrdr55

    ezrdr55 Been here awhile

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    From the Cycle Gear web site:

    Sedici Lifetime Guarantee
    The SEDICI collection of motorcycle clothing and accessories is made with only the finest quality materials and to the highest specifications. As a result SEDICI are pleased to extend a Lifetime Guarantee on every product.

    This Lifetime Guarantee covers any defect arising in:
    • The construction
    • Manufacturing methods
    • Components or quality of materials from date of initial purchase through the lifetime of the product
    This guarantee does NOT cover:

    • Normal wear and tear
    • Accidental damage
    • misuse of the product
    • weather ageing
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  8. duck

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    Or bad spelling.

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  9. Mr_McBride

    Mr_McBride 'The Cartographer'

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    The packaging says "one year". If they have extended that, then great.

    Personally, I going with W&S...
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  10. Bill Harris

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    The QUOTE lifetime warranty ENDQUOTE is a marketing ploy and is like a piece of Swiss cheese. My expectations ar enot set too hight.

    W&S is a good way to go, IMO. They are now associated with/marketed by Firstgear, and I've always been satisfied with that brand.

    --Bill
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  11. edeslaur

    edeslaur San Diegan

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    I have the liner and controller. Screaming deal for $149+tax. I also bought the Tourmaster coily SAE cord, works great with it. I decided to wire the included harness rather than running through my factory powerport. The Tourmaster BMW adapter and SAE/COAX adapters also work with the liner/controller.

    I've used it in 32 degree weather for my 87 mile commute and it's been much nicer than doing it without gear. It's good enough I don't even put my FirstGear insulated pants on whereas without the jacket, no pants meant an hour of shivering once I got to work. :norton

    Liner works as billed, however, on my K1200S, the back of my neck gets uncomfortably warm on Max. I'm not sure this is position-related, when I sit up straighter, it doesn't seem to make it much better. It's tolerable on High, but still a tad toasty. The jacket by itself, without heat, is actually a pretty good liner. The first few trips I hadn't run the leads correctly from the controller to the liner and it wasn't heating, tho the controller was on. Don't judge me, it's not as straightforward as you might think. :D

    For some reason, the SAE connector is on the right side of the liner, while all BMWs I've ever had have the powerport on the left. This means the cable would need to cross over me while I sit, chafing the paint on the tank. I ran the harness provided with the liner to the right side of the bike, which is unfortunate as the Tourmaster coily cord came undone from the liner during some spirited riding (hanging off) and proceeded to melt black goo all over my pipe. COAX connectors, really? The Tourmaster coily cord ($9 at RockyMountain ATV) has black rubber over a much more heat-resistant clear inner core, so while the black melted off, no copper was exposed and no fuse harmed - Go Tourmaster!!

    The controller is intended to go inside the jacket which is just nonsensical since you'd have to pull over to make adjustments. I ran it through the d-ring on the right side/outside of my First Gear Ranier jacket so I can adjust and monitor it. The Ranier jacket has grommets in the left zippered pocket to allow wire pass through, but since the heated liner has the powerport on the right, I can't keep the controller in my left jacket pocket without having to disconnect/reconnect from the jacket it every time I unzip the darn thing.

    My first heated jacket, still figuring out wire routing so it doesn't chew up my paint but also stays connected when I'm hanging off the corners on my way to work or home.:D

    So, some issues, but for 1/4 the price of the competition (with controller), it's hard to complain.

    PS: Pics of your installs welcome. I'll upload some when I have time.
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  12. Scorch_TX

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    Nice testing!

    I have the First Gear heated jacket, the 90w version. Although I don't get to use it much here, it does get pretty warm. I was wondering about the Sedici stuff. I sold one jacket to a customer and he returned it, saying it did not get warm enough. I don't know if it was just him, or the gear. I like the empirical results you got.
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  13. oldbmw

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    I rode to work today using the jacket on high. The blue light was on indicating power and max setting. I could not feel any heat. :hmmmmm

    Any ideas? Does gentle heat mean you don't notice it?

    Will try testing it at home with a thermometer and see if its even working.
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  14. edeslaur

    edeslaur San Diegan

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    Make sure you have it wired right. I slept a lot since last time I used mine:norton, so can't remember, but the input from the bike goes to the controller... and then it gets fuzzy. But if you do it wrong, the light comes on without heat.
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  15. oldbmw

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    I found and watched a youtube video put out by cycle gear and I did not have the controller connected to the jacket lead that is found inside a zipper on the right side bottom of jacket. I thought that lead was to connect the pants to jacket but the pants run separate from the jacket. Will try again :)
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  16. oldbmw

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  17. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    I bought the jackets and gloves last fall. I rode 13 highway miles when the ACTUAL temperature was 2F, nevermind the wind chill on the highway....


    I arrived in good shape. Another hour on the interstate and I would have been a human popsicle.

    I'll post tomorrow after I ride a few hours between 25F and 35F and let everyone know how it does.

    EDIT: By the way, the controller location is stupid.
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  18. ezrdr55

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    It was 23 degrees F this morning. 25 minutes at 35 mph. Nice and warm with the Sedici liner on max under my First Gear Kathmandu with insulated liner in. I put the controller in my Bags-Connection City tankbag window and can adjust it with gloves on. Also had the heated grips on high.
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  19. oldbmw

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    Okay. When wired correctly, you get instant heat. Very nice upgrade with the micro wire heating FAST compared to the old school thick wires on my old school jacket. Only complaints are that my lower belly gets cold due to no micro wires located at the end of the front of the jacket and that the controller is buried inside the inner most recesses of my riding gear. Pick a temp level and leave it there unless you leave it dangling on the outside or re-wire it somewhere on the outside.
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  20. Green427

    Green427 Comfortably Dumb

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    The Sedici gloves are the same as Venture Grand Touring gloves, which I got a couple weeks ago.

    When hooked up to a battery, they work well. Even on the highest setting, they never really got hot.

    When hooked up to my Wee, they will work as long as the bike is not running. After further investigating, I have found that the gloves stop working when the battery voltage exceeds 13.8 volts.

    Tested it on two other vehicles, same result.

    :scratch

    Contacted the supplier (Rider's Needs) and they want me to get in touch with the manufacturer to see whether that is normal or not....

    I am going to tell them that I want my money back and will get something different.
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