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Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by rossphoto, Jun 25, 2014.

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    +1. C'mon, DeadHead!
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    OK OK OK .... Ive been on here a while. the search engine sucks a little bit right:kboom Ill look harder next time...
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    But,........ Stainless doesn't show waves when it gets water in it. The stock filter is sort of a diagnostic tool for these stupid beasts.
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    Found this

    Originally Posted by rossguzzi [​IMG]
    I think what is meant by the above post is the paper one blocks up if the water pump seal leaks water into the oil system. Hence the wavy pleats when contamination occures.
    The S/S one has a bypass valve if I remember correctly. So if the oil water sludge blocks the filter the bypass opens. Better watery oil than none.



    Close. Sludge will flow through the SS filter. There is no bypass. When sludge hits the paper filter, the water swells the paper and you get no oil pressure. So, it's up to the end user to decide which way to go. I prefer fluid pressure over the potential of no pressure. Those aluminum cam journals fry quickly in low pressure. Some will prefer the "warning system" of wavy pleats. Whatever. Hope you see the wavy pleats before it's too late!
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    Oh gees the Search Police rears it's ugly head. Who cares? New people would never know it exists if it weren't for new threads.
    Let's see I don't know aScotts filter exists so I'll search for it? Yes he knew it existed but OTHERS DO NOT!
    Chill...
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    exactly!!!!
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    A lot of these bikes have oil pressure warning lights--possibly an alternative to pulling out the oil filter to check for coolant
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    Remember also that if you are on a trip and your paper filter gets plugged/pleated and you get no oil pressure, you can just put the bike on the side and remove the filter and get home. Better to circulate dirty oil than no oil.
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    I am not sure why there is so many people scared of these things?
    I have had them in several bikes and have had one on my 07 990 sense oil change #2. My bike has 50K miles on it. The bike is on the original clutch and 2nd water pump, Now i have a CJ pump in it. I find it easy to clean and also see what is in the filter. I have a glass bowl that i put some gas or solvent in and throw the filter, screen, drain plug and covers for the filer and screen in. Then blow everything off with compressed air. The bike is running great and shows no sings of issues related to oil.
    Buy one and never look back!
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    Pressure gauges can go bad. Warning lights can burn. I prefer to have 4 warning alarms than one: cam chain rattle, sludge in the clutch cover, low pressure light on, curved pleats on my oil filter, loosing coolant. Mind you, if SS filter is used and coolant in the oil is not too much, you get no chain rattle, no warning light, no curved oil filter pleats. So you are left with sludge in the clutch cover and loosing coolant only which can go on for a while, until you dive in there.
    Cheers.
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    I use a Scott's, and my rationale is this: I'd rather let the engine run on contaminated oil than no oil at all.

    Coolant loss in the reservoir (verified occasionally by a radiator level check), sludge buildup on the hex cap on the alternator cover-- these I'll rely on to alert me of a water pump problem. I'd just as soon let the oil filter filter oil.
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    i have ran stainless steel filtersw with no problems in all of my bikes. i have never had an issue. its funny how these ss filters scare the hell out of everyone. if they didnt work, no one would buy them...
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    Have had one in the 950 for 80,000km no problems. Still on original clutch and water pump. Do people think the seal will suddenly completely fail and drop all of the coolant in a short period of time? I think it would seep over a period of time and if this is the case your paper filter is swelling gradually between oil changes and continually affecting your oil pressure. No thanks. Engines will have amounts of water in condensation in them and vapourise it as it gets to operating temperature so a tiny amount is ok, but obviously not if you arent running it long enough. Same reason automotive manufacturers now put SS exhausts on new cars, because people dont run them long enough to get rid of the condensation causing mild steel exhausts to rust out.
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    Same here, plus an oil pressure gauge. I don't take my clutch cover off often enough to want to use that as a warning, and coolant loss is pretty unreliable for me since I do a lot of off road riding, and have found that coolant can slosh out of the reservoir in the really rough stuff. As far as I'm concerned, the oiling system is basically the most important thing on the bike, since I don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon. Nothing else can really cause much lasting damage, and the cooling system is easy to monitor with the factory gauge.
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