Apple - Forgotten Password

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  1. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    Great reply, thanks. I'll be in touch if I haven't resolved this soon.
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  2. hpsVFR

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  3. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    I've been able to put a little money away and now I'm thinking of a computer upgrade.
    Would I need to have the password to transfer data to a replacement computer?
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  4. huzar

    huzar Pastor of Muppets

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    You'll need the password if you want to transfer things via migration assistant between the old mac and the new one.

    I haven't tried this, but you might be able to bypass the password by putting the old mac into target disk mode and using a firewire cable and a firewire to thunderbolt adapter.

    Did the trick of booting into single user mode and deleting the "setup complete" file not work for you?
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  5. hpsVFR

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    There are ways of copying the data over without the password. You still won't be able to access it, however.
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  6. Old Kiwi#99

    Old Kiwi#99 Been here awhile

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    http://tidbits.com/article/144371:
    Use the Command Line -- In early versions of Mac OS X, the command line was the best way to reset a forgotten administrator password. Even now, command-line password reset remains available, making it the most universal approach that will work in any situation. If you’re not turned off by typing highly specific commands, follow these steps:

    Make a note of the user account shortname by opening the Home folder (in the Finder, choose Go > Home) and checking the folder name at the top of the window. If you can’t get into the account at all, you can determine the shortname later on.



    Reboot into Single User mode by restarting the Mac and holding Command-S while the system comes back up. A lot of arcane status messages scroll by, and leave you with a command-line prompt.

    Mount the root Mac OS X drive as writable, so you can make changes to the filesystem, with this command:

    mount -uw /

    For those running 10.7 Lion, 10.8 Mountain Lion, or 10.9 Mavericks, enter this command at the prompt to load Open Directory (which manages user accounts) manually, since it was deprecated in Lion:

    launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.opendirectoryd.plist

    Skip this step if you’re running 10.6 Snow Leopard or earlier.

    If you don’t know the shortname of the account you want to reset, look through the list that results from typing this command:

    ls /Users

    Next, enter the following command, replacing “shortname” with the desired account’s shortname:

    dscl . -passwd /Users/shortname

    If you get this error message, you may ignore it:

    launchctl: Couldn’t stat
    (“/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.DirectoryServicesLocal.plist”):
    No such file or directory nothing found to load

    Type in the new password.

    Restart the Mac by typing:

    reboot
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  7. anotherguy

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    Damn. Copied and stashed away just in case.
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  8. MrBob

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    I tried this technique once and did not get the commands that you list so allow me a few questions.
    You write "mount -uw /". I read this as a space between mount and the dash, yes? And then hit return? I think I may be not reading the spacing correctly. Also did not see user account shortname.
    I've tried about a half dozen different methods for changing or recovering my password and in no case were the commands I got the same as the ones recommended.
    I'm running 10.6.8.

    Ran through the sequence twice and got Command not recognized.
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  9. hpsVFR

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    Let's step back a minute and see if we might have some other options:

    1. Do you have any other accounts on that machine that you do have access to?

    2. Do you (or a close friend) have another Mac that has a working optical drive?

    3. Do you have a recent backup of your data? If so, how did you make it?

    4. What are you thinking, WRT replacing your Mac? If you were to purchase the replacement machine, and set up an administrator account on it, it becomes fairly easy* to transfer your data over, and reset the password.

    *[where fairly easy may be quite a bit easier than what you're trying to do, or about the same, depending on a variety of factors]

    Unfortunately, I no longer have my Snow Leopard discs, so cannot help you out that way. I am reasonably familiar with this sort of thing, and worked in the service dept. of an Apple Specialist for a while. We can get you sorted out, but it might not be possible to do long distance.
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  10. ohgood

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    If the partition wasn't encrypted just boot the machine in slave mode and get your files onto another drive, then wipe it or whatever and push them back after a reinstall.
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  11. MrBob

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    So, the latest in the forgotten password saga; I bought a refurbished MacBook Pro on eBay from a company in Mpls. It will be a rocket compared to my fading MacBook after I had them install a SSD.
    They offered to upload my data to the new unit for about the trade in price of my old unit so I shipped it off and am impatiently waiting for the Pro.
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  12. hpsVFR

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    Hope it works out!
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  13. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    I don't know about y'all but a computer purchase leads to some anxiety as I get it set up. I made sure I had phone support with the sale.
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  14. hpsVFR

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    Good idea. A support agreement is as much about peace of mind as anything else. Even though I'm very comfortable with this stuff, and have done it professionally, I generally find it worthwhile to have some sort of support agreement.
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  15. MrBob

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    My shiny new/old MacBook Pro arrived on the brown truck today. I'm still getting used to the clarity of the screen and speed of the processor. It's loaded with 10.9.2 and a bunch of apps I haven't been able to check out yet.
    But, I'm still dealing with the forgotten password B.S.. I see a button for changing the password but it calls for the old password, which is still forgotten. Now that I have a different OS, do I stand a better chance of entering a new password?
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  16. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    Did they send back your old laptop???
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  17. MrBob

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    Traded in.
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  18. Jonnylotto

    Jonnylotto All out of care

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    But now it will reject your incorrect password 43% faster! :lol3
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  19. MrBob

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    Maybe I can be hypnotized into remembering the password.
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  20. Jonnylotto

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    I don't know if this would work for you but I try to remember something contemporary to the time I last used the password. I remember one from over 13 years ago because he was a VP that drove a Jag, used the year and model backwards. My NAS has been running for 8 years, back in '06 I used a 6 letter password inside the home network, things like that.
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