Apples new maps and IOS 6!! (Iphone and iPad)

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Xtremjeepn, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Xtremjeepn

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  2. mightymatt43

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    wow. that looks incredible. i'm assuming the 3d version of the maps takes awhile to load but it really looks great.

    thanks for sharing!
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    so how is it editing routes? with the old one and also google maps on android, you can't do the same drag to edit a route that you can online.
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  4. lovish

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    You insatalled IOS6 ?? I don't think that's possible.. Apple doesn't let its softwares to leak like that.. they would never spread them to dev's as that would mean the IOS would get leaked and pirated much before Apple realeses it...
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  5. ReactorTrip

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    He has a dev account. Devs get it early. That is what wwdc is about, getting devs involved so they can make apps for the new OSes before it is released to the masses. You can too if you pay $100 a year for an individual dev account.
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    The question....can I download the maps for offline use like google announced for android? If so fuck yeah:freaky
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    I kept track of the iOS portion of the keynote and I am surprised nobody has discussed the eyes-off mode for siri and maps that the car makers are working with.

    A more robust Siri might push me to pick up a Bluetooth intercom. I hope the headset companies are taking notice. Being able to voice command music, comms, routes, and other apps would be great, if not a little distracting.
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  8. Xtremjeepn

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    I'll get the iOS 6 on the company iPhone 4S this weekend and play around with Siri some more:wink:
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  9. eakins

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    that's sweet looking.
    my guess is google is working on stepping up it's game asap.
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    I thought I was gonna like this thread, having an apple developer here and all, but as soon as I saw those huge photo files and now have to scroll to read a post, forget it! As a developer you must have some large displays huh? What about the rest of us? I'm on a 14" iBook ...... :baldy
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    Sorry, they just auto size and fit on my ipad that I posted them from, no matter what size the picture link. :D No way for me to tell what is going to work on your system.


    EDIT: BTW, being and "Apple Developer" means that I have a "Developer Account" that allows me to develope apps for the Apple system, NOT that I work for Apple.

    If you have a business and pay Apple $100 a year you too can have the same access I do.
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  12. morerpmfred

    morerpmfred Been here awhile

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    Wow. Apple maps ? You can now save sattilite images + 3d images for when you are out of cell phone range? Will this work on iphone 4 as well or do i have to get a newer cell phone? Frigg for route planning on the fly this would be the ultimate.


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  13. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Looks like just the 4s and ipad 2/3 is supported for the 3D maps.


    I take screen shots myself so that when I'm out of coverage I can still see the map I was looking at when planning that section.
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  14. EmmEff

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    It's not Apple Maps, but you can download satellite images for offline use with MotionX GPS.
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    Wholey fuck that looks awesome!!!!


    Maybe there is hope to whip garmin into line by way of apple?

    Who's going to be first to rip the guts out of a sheethouse garmin and put a iphone it it!!!

    Ot cant belong before we can stop doing the garmin dance of just shit products, with shit service and dont give a fuck we are big attitude
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    Wow those maps look much better
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  17. abhibeckert

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    I'm also an apple developer and have been following this closely for years.

    Unfortunately because I'm an apple developer that means I've signed a non disclosure agreement, and can't talk about anything except what Apple has made public. Xtremjeepn you're really putting your feet in the fire by posting those screenshots... seriously, this is pre-release software and you're not allowed to make that stuff public. If you want my advice... go in and delete them or you might face legal troubles.

    Being pre-release software also means it's not really a good indication of what the final shipping product will be. They change stuff at the last minute all the time (actually, they almost always hold a few things back until launch day, as a publicity stunt).

    I'm only going to talk about what's been made public, and quite a lot has been made public. :freaky

    The 3D stuff mostly comes from a map research group called C3 technologies that apple purchased last year for about $300,000,000 dollars or more, they were a subsidiary of Saab and claimed to use fly small aiplanes at ~500m altitude and capture 3D terrain data with a resolution of 10cm. They also use helicopters and UAV's for even better resolution (in cities?). This is military-level mapping technology, C3's press releases talked about using it to calculate weapon firing ranges and deployment of soldiers and artillery in the field.

    They don't just have 3D terrain data, they also have 3D buildings and trees. :D

    The street map data, at least for the USA, is licensed off TomTom. No public info yet if TomTom will also be used around the rest of the world. I know that in australia TomTom has better data than google, so that's good news.

    It will support full turn by turn navigation, with full voice guidance and speech control. In fact, it looks like the entire turn by turn system can be operated with *the screen turned off* so a bluetooth helmet setup with the phone in your pocket should give you full turn by turn navigation. Looks like the voice system is sophisticated, for example they have a public demo of asking the phone (with your voice) to find a petrol station along the current route.

    Obviously apple already has voice control for things like music and phone calls, this should integrate tightly into all of that.

    They didn't say anything about offline caching of the map data. I suspect it will require 3G access while in use, just like google maps, but I predict it will also download much faster than google's map data - since it's "vector" instead of "bitmap" - and will probably be much more reliable in situations where you have an unreliable data connection.

    Perhaps third parties will be able to tie into it and offer full offline access, but I wouldn't count on it... we're most likely going to have to fall back to open street map/etc for offline data.

    Finally, it has real time traffic data... in theory if there's a crash somewhere along your route it will only take your phone a few minutes to warn you and offer a faster route. They've got a screenshot with an alert message "Due to traffic, rerouting can save 6 minutes."

    The traffic data is collected by iPhones, so as long as somebody else has recently used their iPhone along the route you're travelling down, apple will be able to calculate what the actual traffic speed is, instead of relying on speed limits. Presumably they can only collect this data from iPhones that have their GPS chipset powered on, so it remains to be seen how useful it will be outside of major metro areas... but it should be great for avoiding traffic jams on your daily commute.

    Some features (eg: the 3D terrain view) will not work on all apple's hardware. You'll want an iPhone 4S or LTE to get the best experience.

    All in all, Apple has been consistently improving their map/gps features every single year ever since the iPhone first came out.

    Here's some screenshots from Apple's website:

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  18. Emmbeedee

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    What planet are you from? There's no better gps than the Montana right now, and no better gps company than Garmin to deal with.

    Back to the topic, I can't wait to see iOS6 on my 4S, but not because I want to "whip Garmin into line".

    Oh, one more thing, you don't need to quote the whole frigging original post, just to add a couple of comments.
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  19. abhibeckert

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    Just because there is nothing better doesn't make the Montana a good device. :deal

    I personally think it's a piece of shit. All around it's arguably the best (or at least among the best) available, but that is a really low bar.

    I wish Garmin would release software for Android and iOS, allow me to install it on any hardware I want. And I wish they would sell hardware that runs their Android software along side other GPS apps. And most importantly, it needs to run non-GPS software as well (for example, my smartphone/gps has got a full KTM owner's manual, parts schematic, and workshop manual. Try that on your montana).

    Perhaps stiff competition from Apple and others will push them in that direction.
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  20. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    It's your prerogative to think what you want but have you actually used one? If so, for how long?

    I have both a Montana and a 4S and each have strengths, but each is different. I keep my iPhone in my pocket and my Montana on the dash.
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