Arctic project (Epic Arctic Ride)

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by paulmondor, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    This morning we got up in Jasper to -20 when it was supposed to be -2C. That is Ok. That is what we are here for.
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    Yesterday we went to Maligne canyon. It was absolutely phenomenal. This is a canyon that freezes over and in which you can walk and see some incredible ice formation. It was a four-hour tour.
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    Like I said this morning was pretty nippy. After using deicer in the locks and fiddling with Joe’s 800 steering lock, we were on our way at 7:30. (Told him not to lock it at night in this cold, because the mechanism can freeze and deicer does not really thaw out mechanical parts)
    The road from the Jasper (Highway 5) to the intersection of Highway 40 was clear and dry mostly. We had to sop at a pull-out because Joe’s knees were frozen. He had forgotten to put the Aerostich Darian pads under his suit. So he walked in the little washroom with Flora and they put them on. He also added one more pair of socks. We will see what happens! I told them that is not the number of layers but they layer’s ability to hold warm air between it and you. I have only my long sleeve bicycling T-shirt and one pair of wool socks.
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    The stretch between this junction and Grande Prairie is 396 km with not much in between. There is Muskeg, but it is nothing but two houses and an old construction building. So I decided to push it a bit and see what Joe is made of. We rode for 206 kms while the thermometer dropped to -26 C most of the time.
    When we pulled over at the Subway in Grande Cache it was about freaking time. I was pretty much at the end too. I was not cold, but breathing that cold air for two hours at 100 km/h sure tires you out and slows you down.
    We had breakfast and coffee. I had the richest-sweetest-fattest- artery clogging-liver stomping-stomach filling-kidney hammering chocolate muffin. Your metabolic system works overtime to keep your core and organs warm with blood and any energy you take in is pent quickly. After about an hour there and chatting with the oil workers or whatever they do. I assume they are because of the strong odor of fuel they emanate; we kept on moving.
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    That road is pretty desolate and it is called “The scenic way to Alaska”. It is scenic indeed with all the snow-covered peaks and immense valleys on your left as you ride pas the Rockies that are slowly fading away as we head north.
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    We made it to Grande Prairie at about 2 PM at the Holiday Inn where Alberta Tourism Office has also giving us each a 30-minute Spa!!! This puppy does not do Spa. Nobody rubs me except my girlfriend..
    I hear the place is booming with oil patch workers. Dunno about you, but I have trouble seeing a rugged oil workers getting a hot stones massage. Maybe it is just me!

    We are here till two tomorrow where we will meet with Frank from tourism Alberta. He will also follow us for a few days while we are in Alberta. We have some Hockey stuff planned I think.
    All in all it was a great day. We got hit hard right away in the trip with bad stuff, which allows to get our shot together sooner than later. Joe is on a steep learning curve and he is doing great considering that he has never done this.

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    Looking forward to tomorrow..

    Cheers

    Iceman out
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  2. GISdood

    GISdood Been here awhile

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    Amazing RR... that's some crazy winter stuff. I grew up in Clearwater and spent a lot of time sledding and skiing the backcountry areas around Blue River and Valemount, so I'm not surprised with the weather you're experiencing. I am, however, completely shocked and impressed that you're riding through it all!

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  3. Ron from BC

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    I agree with the OP, lots of inmates will want to read of Paul's latest Odyssey and unless they dial into the Regional/Canada they're gonna miss it.....

    Paul: Have you considered asking to have this moved to the Ride Report thread for a wider audience.....you know tonnes of people would be glued to it......Je pense...
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  4. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Thanks for the kudos. How do I ask to have it moved?
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  5. GISdood

    GISdood Been here awhile

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    I think you just did :evil
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  6. atk_nut

    atk_nut and atk_nut_wife

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    Hey Paul
    Looks like you're having a great time!!Thanks for the pics..So you didn't take the alpaca socks??
    Keep posting the pics.
    Later
    Renee,Henry and clan
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  7. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Hey Hey!!! Thanks Henry! And yes I did take them. It is easier for me to write "Wool socks" then "alpaka":huh

    Cheers
    PS: Nothing beat them.............Nothing! NA di know about socks for cold climates
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  8. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Yes we do. The Aerostich studs #4606 and 4707. After trials and error the 4606 are the best for front and rear, and the tires are TKC 80's.

    Cheers
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  9. ian408

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    I only found it using "new posts". If it were in RR, I think lots of folks would appreciate it. It's got my attention :D
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  10. Boston

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    Hey Paul, awesome trip - I'm jealous! Not that you've seen much bare asphalt thus far, but in your opinion, how do the Aerostich #4606 studs handle on clear asphalt? I've contemplated running studs while commuting but 80% of the time the roads are pretty clear. The other 20% sure is challenging without them though. What's your opinion -worth running the #4706 studs for commuting on a mix of bare and snow covered asphalt?

    Have a safe and fun journey! :clap
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  11. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Cheers

    For the past few years I have clocked almost 35k on snow and ice with these studs. They are awesome.. after trial and error i know that the 4606 do work best on he TKC 80's front and the 4707's on the rear... and they also work great on clear roads. they do not affect the way the bike runs, accelerate or brakes
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  12. GB

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    Moved to Ride Reports to be enjoyed by a bigger audience :thumb
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  13. OldMedic

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    Your in my back yard... Well, just down the street...

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  14. JimmieA

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    Paul I am trying to link you up with a guy from McMurray, a BMW guy that has done this ride. He is a great BMW biker. He did from Tuck to Prince Rupert to Halifax and back 9in the winter) on a BMW F800GS and he is in McMuray right now to do a charity ride to Fort Smith. You really need to talk to him. I sent you a personal PM to contact him. He lives in Renfrew Ont, you could call his Mrs.

    JimmieA/
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  15. edge2edge

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    WOW!!!! You guys rock! Thanks for sharing your adventure with us!!!!:clap
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  16. Gale B.T.

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    YAHOOOOOO , way to go Paul, couple of my friends in Tete Jaune Cache called me to say they waved at your group.

    Keep us posted, we are with you , safe ride,
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  17. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Thanks guys! I m sorry about not having posted yesterday but we had a busy schedule. I rode the road from Grande Prairie to Peace River alone yesterday as joe had a front flat and we put his bike in the trailer. I did the whole 200 km in one shot at -25 C or so. it was an epic day.. it was snowing and there was some powder snow on the road. so every time i came across a rig or something bigger than me, which is everything else!!! I disappeared in a cloud of snow.

    Very interesting when the road is covered with packed snow and ice and there are few rigs behind each other.
    Good for the skills. Especially the ones where you have to let the handlebars do what they want to do.. Easy Nellie! Easy!!! Squeeze the legs. hold the seat (Pucker), focus, smooth on the controls except the bowel and stay the course whatever that is..


    Plus the joints in the road beat me up. It was like I had no suspension. Now I know why these chopper guys walk like they have something stuck up their ass.. Their sphyncter is the only thing that flexes anymore.. Fer Krissesake! Now I got images in my mind I or you did not need to have.

    We got invited to dinner by Frank from Travel Alberta right after we got here.. Somehow I was beat!
    Today we are going to the World Pond Hockey Championship. 84 hockey teams i think are playing on 20 something rings in the country side. Cool! Then we are going to a winter Carnival in St-Isidore. we Leave Peace River tomorrow for Slave Lake for two days then Fort McMurray for two days where we will do the ice road.
    it looks as if the cold is not wanting to let go. Oh well! That is what we are here for.

    Talk to you soon:freaky
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  18. markbvt

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    Hey Paul, out of curiosity, did you try regular automotive studs? If so, did you find they had significant disadvantages over the Aerostich studs, aside from the need to be inserted with a studding gun? Or have you only used the Aerostich studs?

    I'm currently running a set of Pirelli Scorpion Pros with automotive studs, and they work great on hardpack, although the knob pattern on the rear tire is a bit too spread out so the rear gets a little squirrelly with the slightest hint of slush. I'm tempted to keep the front tire (which works well) and next year replace the rear with a TKC or Dunlop D606 or something. If those Aerostich studs present a significant advantage, I'll spring for those instead of finding a studding gun to borrow.

    Thanks, and enjoy your ride up north! I'll be following along with enthusiasm.

    --mark
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  19. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Hi Mark!
    Yes I have tried other types in the past, and even though the automotive are a bit better on ice ( A Bit) I find that they are the craps on dry asphalt as you lose braking and traction. The Stich ones you do not even feel on asphalt and to not affect the way your bike feels during braking or accelerating. On our was here we were riding at 100 km/h (60 MPH) at times and tried to break the rear end lose while we were on ice and it was hard. My rear TKC i have used in 08 and for the 2010 FBT i gave to my friend Ryan and it has 25,000 kms on it and still has more than half the rubber left. Plus when you are done with them you can remove them and use your tire normally. That is one huge advantage.

    I, for one would not do what I do anymore without the Stich studs. the #4706 are the cat's meow!!
    I am not saying this just because they are onboard with us. I would not recommend something that is not good no matter what.

    I hope this helps.:freaky
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  20. Boston

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    Thanks Paul, this is SUCH good information! I am definitely going to give the Aerostich studs a try next winter. In the meantime, I'm thoroughly enjoying reading about your current ride! :clap Safe travels!
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