Arctic project (Epic Arctic Ride)

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by paulmondor, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. obsidian

    obsidian Scared of the dark..

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    Just putting in my $0.02 , it's a blast riding with Paul! The "prologue" episode will be coming out real soon. I'll embed it in here...

    Cheers
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  2. D-Fuzz

    D-Fuzz Been here awhile

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    So, with the temps being that cold, are you able to put the bikes inside at night so they will start in the morning. I know most cars/trucks have a tough time starting in those temps without being plugged in, can't imagine how you'd get a bike started if it was a frozen brick.

    The other part that so far is beyond my comprehension is how you are able to stay warm ridng at 80-100km/h in -30C temps, especially your feet & hands.

    Safe travels! This is truly an awesome RR but I think the best is yet to come!
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  3. ABADV

    ABADV Been here awhile

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    Great RR! Inspired and subscribed!!
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  4. Jettn Jim

    Jettn Jim This is Liv'n!!!

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    After riding near 60k on a Snowmobile in 9yrs, you've reminded me to stud up the KLR and RIDE! I Miss winter riding!!! (Sold the Sleds)
    Was checking out the stich studs last winter....Sooo your running them full time on this trip? How many miles/km's do you get out of a set? What kind of air pressure on pavement vs ice/hardpack snow?
    Thanx for any info. Looking fwd to some more report.
    I'll have to check but when I was in Inuvik this fall I saw a back way in (other than the Demster) from down south. I'm curios if this will be your route :evil
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  5. Mudcat

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    Good question. Geez, the bikes are freezing up going down the road. What happens when they are parked?:eek1
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    Thanks for talking the time to do a ride report Paul. Your ride has my attention.
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  6. RobBD

    RobBD Been here awhile

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    And here was I complaining about the +36c temp today! Awesome you four, and I can't wait for more photos:clap
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  7. OPNYD

    OPNYD Bald, old, crabby, & fast

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    Great report!! :clap

    Are those studs from Bruno Wessel? What length/diameter? Did you use their stud gun/drill? 'Stich doesn't sell the 4606 studs anymore & I'm trying to cross-reference to the (former) supplier - I think it was Wessel. The only studs in the new 'Stich catalog are the screw-in variety. Part #4606 is now a tire balancer.
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  8. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Yo! Yes the bikes start easily. In 08 when I reached -61 C, Frosty started but I had an extra battery connected on the system. What I have learned since then it that the bike starts easily up to about and maybe above -30 or so. Obviously the EFI works at this temp. I will know more as we go on. But So far we have not had to jump start the 800's. I also know that using 0W40 in Frosty helped a lot. we have 10W40 on the 800's. Time will tell.
    As far as freezing going down the road I have no clue what you are saying. So fat at -40 I had to make shields for the radiators. But the bikes ran great.

    Vehicles have been running at cold temps forever. Bikes are no different. A single cylinder has less moving parts. I am sure it helps make it run in old like this.
    I will keep you posted as we go. But i can tell you this. Frosty has been running in temps up to -60 C for more than 35,000 kms. She is still running strong.

    Cool! As far as the studs I will have to measure them.. So Andy at Aerostich does not carry the 4606 anymore?? I am surprised. I know they are B/O. But that is all.

    When I have a chance I will measure them. But I think they are 8.7 MM by 12.8 MM.
    :freaky
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  9. sturgeon

    sturgeon Long timer

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    I wonder if 4606 was a typo; maybe he meant 4706 and 4707, which are in their current catalog (complete with a review by, you guessed it, Paul Mondor).
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  10. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    Dammit! It was a typo. I am sorry! I meant 4606...Duhhhhhh!:huh
    I am French! That is my excuse and I am sticking to it.:D
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  11. sturgeon

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    Tabernac'! You've now got the number 4606 stuck in your head, and it ain't ever coming out. You might have to get Andy to change his part number :lol3
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  12. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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  13. OPNYD

    OPNYD Bald, old, crabby, & fast

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  14. Mudcat

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    Thanks Paul that is what I was referring too. I think the bike must have lost oil pressure. Also I had the idea your suspension wasn&#8217;t working well because of the cold.
    Does oil flow at -40C?
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  15. shojac

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    WOW, Another Iceman report. Just found this report and am hooked, just like the other ones.
    Sure doesn't seem the same without "Frosty". Do you still have the sidecar attached.
    Have a good trip and looking forward to reports.:clap:clap
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  16. krazygloo

    krazygloo pinch me

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    Rob, I guess the good thing about the cold temperatures, no insects at all, you have to build up a protective layer of fat, which means you can eat anything or use it as an excuse, plus, and my favourite, you get to wear bib pants everywhere!
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  17. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    I agree on all of the above... Plus!!! You lose the weight as you ride. I always lost about 1-15 lbs on my trips. I expect maybe 20 on this one..
    Stay tuned I am posting updates this morning.:freaky
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  18. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    By the way here is how cold it got on our way from Peace River to Slave Lake.
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    Okee Dokee! Fort McMurray
    What can I say about this place?? The locals are great and truly love it. But driving on highway 63 coming here 2 days ago reminded me what happens when you pay large sums of money to men with small dicks and let them buy large pickup trucks as a way to medicate for the small man syndrome.. I do not want to generalize and there are many normal guys. But Damn!!! Is there a lot of them that are.......
    it is nuts.. Pick up trucks with more bling than Snoop Dog in a fashion show and these trucks will most likely never see dirt duty unless you consider dirt duty going to the pub on your day off and load you empty cases of beer and dealing with the local sex trade industry.

    Enough of this. I know! We need oil and that is true..
    We woke up in Slave Lake and the weather was good. It was about -20 when we left. The 800's started right away. Whoops! I am forgetting something here.
    We went ice fishing on Lake Athabasca.
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    When we got there the winds were whipping out asses big time.. So I decided to ride in the box of the pickup truck to take some pictures. I had not dressed as if I was to go riding. So let's just say that my manhood was warm because it was so cold it had retracted in my ass.. :huh:huh No Comments

    We did some fishing and eating.. No drinking. Mind you this environment promotes drinking big time:evil
    [​IMG]There was a wood stove and I stoked the fire as soon as we came.

    Took the gas powered ogre and drilled the ice off the holes. Then we sat down and started fishing. It was great. outside, the wind was howling and it was nice and toasty inside.
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    We did not catch anything but we ended up serving ourselves a copious amount of BS and jokes.
    During this event Paul Iceman Mondor A.K.A Ice Pimp Daddy Rappa showed up and showed off his rap moves.. Cool!
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    Yo Ice Fackas!
    Wazzzup you loozas
    In the hood to do some hookin?
    not to steel my ho's (Holes) away from ma pimpin"
    Take yoh time and chill out Brotha
    Coz the blowin will ice you, you sacka!
    Lock the door and sit yo ass warm and lo
    and enjoy the fishies nibblin on your minnow
    Take yo bling an put in in you parka
    cause Winter will freeze it on you skin you white trash sukka
    Hear you ride scootas down these parts?
    am sure you ass's so chilled you cannot fart
    Enjoy yo time on my lake and in my hood
    While this fire melts the ice outta yo blood.

    See ya later you numb nuts.... Really!!!
    Cause yo sure can see you willie.... really!!!


    Chill! Peace!!


    Where was I! oh yeah. After fishing we went back to Slave Lake and got ready for the ride to Fort Mac. It was -20 when we left and it was supposed to get warmer to about -10. Turns out it hovered between -5 and -17. Almost T-shirt riding weather.
    It is 160 to Athabasca where we had to stop to go film at a local Chopper shop. I will post the pictures later. Can't find it.. (Frozen 2 brain cells)
    then we rode to Fort Mac! 300 kms. We left Slave Lake at 7:45, stopped at Athabasca at 10:30, left there at 12:30 and got to Fort Mac at 4 PM. We hauled ass. the road was clear and there was construction going on.. But overall it was most likely the easiest day so far.
    we are staying at the Sawridge Inn and it is awesome.
    We had some Northern lights watching scheduled for last night after sledding. but it did not happen as the ceiling was too low.
    We had a great tine sledding. they have beautiful back country here and lots of space.
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    Yours truly flying around.
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    Today we are goiing to get picked up at the hotel by helicopter and go to the oil sands sites and see an aerial view of them. apparently it is impossible to imagine how big they are till you see it from the air..
    Tomorrow we leave at 10 AM for the ice road because the traffic out of town is bumper to bumper from 5 till 10 going to the sites. Then we will ride the ice road from Fort Mac to Port Smith where we sleep in a Park crew shack. Cool:clap
    I prefer this then the fancy schmanzee hotels. Make me feel more pat of where I am .

    Stay tuned
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  19. paulmondor

    paulmondor Iceman

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    I had written a little something before the trip to get me in the writing mode and send it to a few mags.. But did not!!
    I thought I would share this.
    Just a thought on riding in cold conditions.

    Enjoy

    Cheers


    Comfort zone

    I was looking at my father’s 1970’s Suzuki Rover 125 while he was gone for the week end and I was scared to start it because A) I knew I was not allowed, and 2) I had searched him room and found the key. He sure would ground me till the age of 50. After pondering the idea for a long time, I hit the starter. The ride that followed ended on the barn door after an unwanted wheelie. But! And there always is a “But” this led to a life long addiction…Motorcycling.
    From then, it grew into what is now a 35 year, 1.6 million miles addiction covering more land than most people would care to calculate. This addiction took different approaches at attacking my comfort zone.
    From riding my 1981 Honda CB900 Custom on the gravel shoulder at 130 M.P.H, then riding my cousin’s YZ450 up a sand pit at speeds that were 5 times too fast (They did not mention it) and saw the bike’s handlebars hook on two very large pines lining the edge of a tobacco plantation and yours truly land, unhurt-well my pride was-in the tobacco field with his ass leaving a 3 inch deep, twenty feet long trench. With many, many more events taking place along these, the rider I was grew into someone, some say “Something” who can push the envelope more than most would dare, and discover limits that I often did not know I had. This comfort zone is always there, lurking in the dark, keeping us from growing into what we can be.
    From the rain falling down, to the thermometer looking a bit too much south of where we believe it HAS to be.
    “Naah! I do not feel like washing my bike!”
    “Crap! I will have to put twenty layers on, just to go have a coffee!”
    “This road just does not feel right or look right for my own liking”
    “Ahh! Too far, and not enough time. (Read-lazy)

    Not pushing it has kept a lot of us riders from finding this perfect little coffee shop in the fall with a fireplace roaring, and the perfect ass hugging couch to plop ourselves in sipping on whatever hard to pronounce coffee we order these days; and watch the rain fall on your steed as you say to yourself “Yeah! That was a great ride!”

    It might also have kept you form honing those skills that keeps eluding you. You know the one? The one that makes your rear end look mummified as the rear wheel squiggles on this non traction-providing surface. And Lord do I know it has kept so many from taking off for a few days because the weather forecast was not quite up to their liking. And for what? To end waking up Monday, going to work after the long week end and hear a few of your now not so funny friends tell you how they just spent the greatest 3-day long week end on some roads that make your brain cells and senses feel like they have been hit by an howitzer.
    For me the realization that I now enjoy pushing the envelope more than ever, came in the heart of summer 2010 at Mosport International raceway in Bowmanville Ontario.
    This realization came in the form of a rider who came to me after listening to my presentations about my “Could be just a birth defect that makes him want to do this sh…” winter treks.
    Mark approached me with a smile only a motorcyclist can relate to. A smile that says so much, and yet; can’t be put into words. As he took two of my books and asked me to sign them, he proceeded to tell me how late last fall, on a dark cold day, he put a week permit on his 1984 R100RT and rode on a road he had never done in bad weather. One of these roads that most likely get covered with road debris, branches and everything else that can be thrown on the tarmac. He told me that even though he had ridden it many times in summer, he had always wanted to ride it during the off-season. (His off-season) I still see the twinkle in his eyes, as he told me about the many rear wheel squiggles, and how he is now comfortable with them. The way the road somehow now looks new, and the scenery so different. The lack of bikes on the road normally buzzing with them. The feeling he had as he sat (Yep! By a fireplace) sipping on a hot cup of coffee as the wind howled and the skies kept trying to scare him away. He also discovered that dirt would not kill his bike, or his ride; and that the layers of dirt you put on only add to this sense you have conquered Mr. Cold! Or Ms.Cold? (I don’t feel like getting nasty Emails from over the top feminists)

    He told me about this peace, this comfort that took over him as the warmth in that coffee shop made him realize that his comfort zone had kept him from this for so many years. The same peace, emotion and comfort I have been preaching about for so many years now. I am told that somewhere in Northern Ontario there is a place where he and only he; shows up in the cold season on a bike. I think he will give it his best shot to change that!

    It was while I listened to Mark that I felt this realization.

    Push yourself a bit more than you normally do, and you will learn something every time. Something you did not know; and most likely would have never known you could learn. Push yourself, push a friend, and together (It feels even better this way) you will see what I mean. If you don’t? Well, to you, I will only be the crazy Iceman who rides in -60 C and writes about it. But if you do, you might be the one who I will meet at this coffee shop with a fireplace and who will succeed at teaching me (I am French Canadian) how to pronounce “One large Macchiato- Caramel- low fat-decaffeinated Americano with no foam please. For here!
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  20. JACjac

    JACjac Vicarious Adventurer

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    Awesome stuff! I've driven all those roads in similar conditions and it is hairy enough in a 4x4. Subscribed and waiting eagerly for more.
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