Arizonans: OHV process for a new bike for dummies?

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  1. WantToRideMoar

    WantToRideMoar Been here awhile

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    I just bought a 2013 Tiger 800XC from GoAZ in Scottsdale last week.

    I want to have it registered OHV and take advantage of the $30 registration rate rather than paying the $275 registration the state wants for a conventional motorcycle.

    GoAZ was hesitant to do this, then researched it and said I could, but that they couldn't print me a temporary tag. I paid them $37 in registration fees on closing.

    I have nothing in the mail at this point.


    Assuming the worst and that I need to restart the whole process over again, what is the step-by-step process to register a brand new virgin never registered before vehicle in AZ and pay the OHV rate rather than the regular motorcycle rate? I'm tired of waiting and having zero paperwork to protect myself.

    I can't seem to find anything on the AZDOT/dmv website, or on service arizona.
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  2. bhorocks

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    I can tell you this, I wouldn't waste my time with the DMV without first trying a third part authorized DMV.. try L&J motor vehicle services. They are close to GOAZ and can probably get you on the road.

    14770 N 78th Way # A
    Scottsdale, AZ 85260
    (480) 368-9933


    Ahh noticed you are in mesa... there is another place on Scottsdale road and McDowell that is good too. The Lady that runs the place is very knowledgeable.

    Action Auto Title
    1911 North Scottsdale Road
    Scottsdale, AZ 85257
    (480) 970-0586

    Good Luck.
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  3. 2 SPOT

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    all you need to do it reg it as MC primarily off road, let them know you want that right from the start.
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  4. Jeff aka BOLT

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    You confuse me... In AZ they generally don't mail stuff. They even print your new TITLE on the spot. Did you actually go to the MVD ?

    You go in... tell them what you want... they charge you... hand you plates and stickers and send you on your way.

    Take the title to the MVD... Tell them that you just bought the vehicle... and you want the PRIMARILY OFF ROAD plate and registration. You will get a license plate that looks just like a MC plate but it will have the letters RV on it instead.

    Get caught driving around town and you'll wish you had bought the MC plate instead.
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  5. seabee1

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    Mostly true. You don't get an rv plate when you register primarily off road. You get a motorcycle plate, pay 25.00 for the ohv sticker, and it makes your registration drop to like 7.00. It's around 30.00 total for registration and ohv sticker when you claim primarily off road.
    And you can definately ride around town with it. It's primarily off road, not exclusively off road.
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  6. Jeff aka BOLT

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    It doesn't mean you can go buy milk and pick up your dry cleaning. You are allowed to connect OHV trails with it. Enforcement is up to the cop of the moment of course.

    MVD was very clear when I asked the dif between primarily ON vs OFF road plates. I was told twice that the Primarily off road use plate would have the RV vs MC in the numbers. But I opted for MC.
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  7. 2 SPOT

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    thats not true jeff, whomever you spoke to didnt know what they were talking about.

    RV plates are OFF ROAD only, non reg, its just a means to have something to stick the OHV sticker to.

    primary off road gives you the MC plate with the option to purchase OHV sticker and reduced reg.

    primary on road gives you the MC plate w/o the option for reduced reg and OHV sticker.

    however i have seen all kinds of crap,,, you prolly have the OHV sticker and reduced reg with your primary on road checked box right?

    thats not right but they do it cause not even the MVD knows whats going on,,, did you know that factory dual sport bikes dont need the OHV tag and the law cant give you a ticket for it,,, but try to argue that after you get a ticket, nobody knows the laws they are serving.
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  8. WantToRideMoar

    WantToRideMoar Been here awhile

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    OK, what if I don't have the title because I financed a portion of the bike and the title is in lein with the lender?
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  9. Jeff aka BOLT

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    Mine are all MC plates... primary on road use... and the additional OHV sticker to boot. I never cheaped out to game the system. Primarily OFFROAD isn't for doing errands and cruising about town. It's to drive from one OHV area to another directly. They were very clear about this. What the cops do or don't do to enforce it I cannot say.

    I don't know why a dual sport would be exempt from paying OHV fees. Even a Jeeper that wants to play off road in AZ has to buy an OHV sticker to go on his street plate. There is nothing about dual sports that changes how AZ collects OHV fees. It is never added into the reg fees for a plated vehicle car, truck or bike... even on renewals it is paid separately.

    So I can only tell what I was told. Two different ladies at two different offices gave me the same info. I've registered and titled 7 vehicles in AZ in the past 18 months.

    Not saying you are wrong... just saying it don't logic out the way you are splainin it to me given what I have seen personally. :deal
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  10. tmac13

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    Not true. I own a FJ cruiser and go off road all the time. There is no requirement and no possible way to get an OHV sticker for my FJ. The state of AZ will not even sell me one for my FJ.
    From the AZ State Parks website

    I own a truck and would like to purchase the OHV Decal to help support the program. Can I do that?
    • No. At this time the OHV Decal can be purchased only for qualifying vehicles, which are designed by the manufacturer primarily for travel over unimproved terrain, with an unladen weight of 1,800 pounds or less.
    The links below can answer all your questions.
    OHV registration info for AZ
    http://azstateparks.com/OHV/registration.html
    www.azgfd.gov/
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  11. swimmer

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    Then you should have just registered the bike in the proper manner. :deal
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  12. Jeff aka BOLT

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    Thanks fellers... It sounds like there was no reason for them to sell me an OHV sticker at all since I paid for a street plate for my bikes. I was impressed with the AZ MVD. They were so sure of the rules compared to what I had experienced my whole life at CA DMV.

    Apparently they are just as screwed up... just have more confidence about giving bad info and charging unnecessary fees. :lol3

    Any reason I shouldn't just let the OHV tags expire going forward ?
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    welcome to the federal system jeff, its screwed up everywhere because of mis information. the ladies at the DMV had the right idea but this is a problem with multiple jurisdictions and rules not quite jiving with each other.

    one of the OHV requirements say UNDER 1800 lbs, jeeps trucks ect dont qualify for that its targeted specifically at side by sides.

    the dual sport is SUPPOSED to be excempt because it wasnt designed primarily for travel over unimproved terrain, or however its worded, it is a 50 state street legal motorcycle and can be ridden off road should the owner want to. they put that in there for all the dirt bikes, ATV's sandrails ect that were made street legal by the owner, there are LOTS of them in this state and that was the intention of the rule, however, its been misunderstood to include ANYTHING that can go off road.

    primarily on road was meant for all the street bikes, it is SUPPOSED to be non OHV sticker and regular price registration.

    its not a bad thing to buy the OHV sticker, i mean you get reduced registration to like $5 or something and at least some of the money is actually going where its intended.

    you want the MC plate, but my Q to you,, should you check the primary off road box or not? if your riding off road, yes so you get the OHV tag and reduced reg fee, as you are now with primary on road you shouldnt have gotten the OHV tag and your registration fees should be regular price.

    your not cheating anything, but since you'll get a ticket for not having the OHV sticker, even though its illegal to give you one (i got it twice but they were both dismissed) you might as well take advantage of the reduction in reg fees.
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    just a title with lien holder, doesnt affect how you register.
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    I've been cautioned by the 3rd party MVD by my office that the primarily off road OHV tags would cause me problems riding in the city on freeways and surface streets if pulled over. In my handful of chance meetings with DPS and MCSO when stopped on paved roads this had never been an issue and they never even asked about the tags.

    I think the 3rd party MVD get a % of total fees and want their slice of a bigger pie.

    As far as you paperwork, I bet they registered you correctly based on the fee, but had no way to give an appropriate temp tag for OHV. Go to a 3rd party MVD or wait in line with the unwashed masses ans request a temp tag, to just pay for the needed tags on the spot. Still be way ahead of the full street reg, even if you paid for the OHV twice.
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  17. WantToRideMoar

    WantToRideMoar Been here awhile

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    If I wanted to do this, am I missing some paperwork?

    All I have is my insurance card from my insurance company, a bill of sale from GoAZ, a "We Owe" statement declaring all payments satisfied, and an ADOT Secure Odometer Disclosure document. No title or lien quasi-title.

    I feel like I got more paperwork when I bought my Shadow 2 years ago, but I bought that one cash with no lienholder. And I obviously allowed the dealership to register it as a normal motorcycle.
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  18. Jeff aka BOLT

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    Both... and I rarely ever use my bikes on the street for anything other than stitching trails together... or riding things like state or fed parks that now restrict traffic to street vehicles only. The latter means I should have a street reg.

    All my bikes are currently registered as PRIMARY ON ROAD USE and have the additional OHV Steeker.

    They made it very clear that hopping on the bike to commute to work or run around town for errands was NOT LEGAL with an PRIMARILY OFF ROAD registration.

    It's all good... at least I can plate my bikes now that we have a place in AZ. Both my CA bikes still have CA plates.
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  19. Xskydiver

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    Two reasons.
    #1. With OHV you get access to state trust land. Without the OHV you have to buy a separate permit or hunting license.
    #2. Save a bunch of money on your registration and support OHV access. I personally feel I spend enough on highway registration with my other three vehicles and trailer so saving the vehicle license tax on my bikes in favor of supporting OHV in AZ isn't "gaming the system", to me, it's putting the money where it belongs. My bikes make almost no impact on the highways anyway.

    Registering "primarily offroad" with OHV sticker gets you an "MC" plate, $5 vehicle license tax and $25 OHV sticker. "offroad only" gets the "RV" plate (I think it's about $7) to which you can add a $25 OHV sticker. You may also register as "primarily on road". The on road registration is based on your vehicle's value. You may add an OHV sticker to that plate as well for $25. An "MC" plate is street legal in any circumstance no matter what you pay for the vehicle license tax. The OHV sticker is still fairly new to Arizona and many if not most MVD (that's what they call it here for some reason) workers have no real understanding of it.
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    well it stands for motor vehicle division, division of what? ADOT, they call it that for some reason too,,, it stands for arizona department or transportation, i suppose they made a division for motor vehicle cause it would be strange buying registration from a guy holding an orange flag for road construction on the side of the street.

    just messin with ya :lol3
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