Arizonans: OHV process for a new bike for dummies?

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by WantToRideMoar, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. Jeff aka BOLT

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    This single screen shot of the Service AZ website is the most effective piece of information in this entire discussion. It is not the written statute... but it is clear and explains the difference in the registration options from the states own website. It is in direct conflict with the information given to me three times by MVD staffers regarding when and where OFF HIGHWAY MCs can be ridden.

    I was overcharged on 3 street legal dirt bikes based on their definitions of ON & OFF HIGHWAY use. I have street plates AND the OHV sticker on all 3. That will change.

    It's hard to have discussions like this when so many have it 70% right (like me)... some just want any excuse to pay the least amount... and others, generally speaking, talk out their ass. :lol3

    Thanks Jeff for the screen shot... and thanks to a few of you that get it and steered me away from trusting the MVD Coolaid Servers.

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  2. Razta

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    From what I was told and recently read, my dual sport needs an OHV sticker.
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  3. seabee1

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    So, here we have the arizona ohv program coordinator giving you information, and you guys want to argue with him citing what some clerk told you?

    You deserve a ticket.:freaky
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    I don't think anyone is doubting the information Jeff is providing. It's the 2nd theme of this topic that is more questionable.
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    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    Yeah, maybe that was a bit harsh. My apologies.
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    Thanks for the summary!
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    I will scan the brochure and post it. My girlfriend picked it up at ADOT office recently.
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  8. Jeff aka BOLT

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    I believe this is why I was pushed into a ON HIGHWAY MC registration plus OHV sticker on my converted non factory plated bikes. More cash for the state. My KTM350SXF cost almost $150 for both for a single year.

    Three visits to two MVDs and three staffers with exactly the same story is not an accident. That's MVD management pushing a revenue agenda.

    I'll be back there next Friday to title & register the wife's 250X an try to hammer it out. Probably nothing I can do for the 3 I've already paid for till renewal time.
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  9. Hucker

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    Thanks again Jeff.

    I think you have given great counsel. :deal

    When I recently registered another bike, I asked the clerk to register it for primarily off road use plus the OHV sticker. She looked at me crossed-eyed and told me she never heard of that. I told her that she had a form that I needed to sign stating that the bike was to be used primarily off road. She looked it up and found it. First time she had done that process. $30 later, I was out the door happy. A little courtesy and education goes a long way.

    Anyone have the ability to post a .pdf of the form (same as Jeff's screen shot) in this thread for people to print and bring with them to register bikes? Might save some questions at the MVD.
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  10. Jeff aka BOLT

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    Sadly the web form is simpler and more clear. The official printable form points to statute and leaves you open to local ordinances trumping that.

    While a web page is not law... If politely edumacating a LEO is the goal to avoid a ticket an subsequent court fight I'd carry the Service AZ webpage printout. It makes it CLEAR that a primarily off highway MC can ride on the highway part time. :thumb
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    Just ran by the MVD to test out what we are talking about...
    Went to MVD office near Chandler and I-10.
    Had to wait to get a number.
    Told the guy who was giving out the numbers that "I need to transfer title from another state, get registered, and perhaps buy an OHV decal". He said the person at the desk will help me when my number is called.
    Waited about 30 minutes...It's late in the day and this particular office is always busy.

    Get called to the window, politely introduce myself, and say "I would like to transfer title, get registered, and perhaps buy an OHV decal". Without a hitch, the guy at the desk whipped out the form linked earlier and said I had a choice of registration. I asked which one to select, and he said to pick the one that best described what I will be doing. I pick "Primarily off road, with some street". He then states I will get an MC plate, will have to carry insurance, and the vehicle must comply with the equipment standards for running on road. He then gives me an estimate of what it will cost before confirming that I want to proceed. During the title work, he asks me if I know the MSRP of my bike because he can not find it. Being a prepared person, I show him the list price on my phone. He says if I decide to register on road only, my fees would be higher based upon the depreciated value of the vehicle. A few minutes later, I have a new title, plate, and all the stickers for the sum of $32.00 (that was the out the door price including my title transfer). I am fully legal on any interstate, road, or trail.

    After the transaction, I thank the gentleman for his excellent customer service and then let him know who I am and who I work for. He smiles thanks me and says, "Well you know all about this then."

    IT DOESN'T GET ANY EASIER THAN THIS

    If you go to a MVD office, be polite. If the person you are dealing with is not familiar with the process, ask for additional assistance. We are all human afterall. The folks at the MVD are not out to get you. I've brought them complicated title issues like a trailer imported from Africa, going thru the process of salvage/restored titles, and have had to deal with theft recovery title stuff in my personal dealings with the MVD. It hasn't always been a smooth transaction, but when the going gets rough, you smile act like a professional, and get what you need in the end.

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  13. Jeff aka BOLT

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    Congratulations... But I've done this three times at Goodyear and Surprise MVD offices over a 12 month period. My experience just the same as yours in the polite and helpful department. Walked out titled and plated and OHVed.

    Problem is they made it clear three times from three different staffers over a year period that PRIMARILY OFF ROAD means direct travel to an OHV area... nothing more. Friday the 7th I'll be making the Surprise MVD VERY aware of their ongoing mistake... and the money they charged me that I should never have paid. About $250 to date.

    Polite but firm will be my approach. :getiton
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  14. sandwash

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    Agavelvr, so now you have two registrations one for OVH an and street?
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    I have one MC plate and street legal registration. In addition to that, I have the OHV decal. Both will be renewed online next year about this time in a single transaction. The OHV decal is not registration.
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    I've had nothing but great experiences ever since I arrived here nearly 6 years ago with the MVD and all of its services. I've registered 3 cars and 7 motorcycles. 3 of those registrations for out of state vehicles and never any issues.

    The servicearizona website is also great.

    I also just found out that the registration on my bike can be renewed for one, 2 or for 5 years. 5 year registration! :clap


    You want to feel some pain? Go to NYSDMV. They master in it. :twitch
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    This is where you say "Cool. Thank you very much for that information."
    Then walk out the door and :fitz

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  18. DurtKlod

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    Thanks guys... just realized my OHV tag was about to expire. Went online and renewed it. $25.46. Easy peasy.
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    my experience has been the same as yours agave,,,,

    sandwash,,, its not two registrations, but i guess one can view it that way as you should carry your reg paper and the ohv sticker paper.

    but as since the first day the ohv program rolled out,,, make sure the "person" helping knows you want the sticker, otherwise you wont get the reduced reg. and if you dont know any better to question the cost, well,,,
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  20. agavelvr

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    Minor clarification.... You DO NOT have to carry the paper the OHV decal came affixed to, it actually says that right on the paper.

    You definitely must carry your street registration with you in any street legal vehicle.
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