Arkansas Ride Reports

Discussion in 'Tejas and the Gulf States' started by 10Cup, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. wfopete

    wfopete Suffer Fools; Gladly!

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    Hey Bohawk,

    I think I saw you just as you were heading out on 27 from Dover towards Hector yesterday. I had just got done showing a Missouri bud Indian Creek Road and a few other sites. BTW just in case you don't know, Blue Hole is a Special Interest Area of the USFS :deal . Off limits to you motorized bad boyz. I understand that Law Enforcement will be poking around that area this spring looking for...? :evil
  2. Vinduroman

    Vinduroman Been here awhile

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    Bohawk...

    Your ride reports n' pics seem like a carbon copy of the stuff over my way that gets me revved-up in a major way.

    ONE OF THESE DAYS...

    I've got to get you over here and show you stuff in my mountains that I KNOW you would enjoy... and ONE OF THESE DAYS... I gotta' hook up with you in "your" mountains and do one of these epic rides with you.

    Yup... definitely an "I'll show you mine and you show me yours" situation!!! :lol3

    V-man
  3. OLEARY

    OLEARY Enlightened Voyager

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    Kewl stuff there Bo! It doesn't look all blue with some sunlight. I am glad you found the way in that Wookazoid talked about the other day. I would like to try that Law Enforcement or no. Some folks just want to take the fun out of life.

    I flew to Little Rock late yesterday afternoon and saw several burns going on. The biggest was north of Conway. Lotta smoke up in the air. :norton
  4. bohawk

    bohawk Likes mechanical stuff

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    If it was around 2 p.m. it was probably me. Sorry I missed you, Pete. There are no signs on any of the trails going down there yet. Surely they will post them if they do not want us down there. I never knowingly ride where I ain't supposed to. How do you find out about this stuff?
  5. wfopete

    wfopete Suffer Fools; Gladly!

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    Yup that was you, I think you just had topped off at the PDQ.

    I hate to say it but the bottom line is:

    If it is not posted "OPEN" then it is to be considered closed. But the USFS has it's hands full just keeping proper signage up. A berm means the same thing (closed) as does a sign or gate stating the road/trail is closed.

    I'm contracted with the USFS doing trail/road surveying and there is more work than I can imagine just following the "legal" trails. So I spend my day riding for hours on end just "Doing my Job". :deal
  6. bohawk

    bohawk Likes mechanical stuff

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    Sounds like fun to me!
  7. TroyWolf

    TroyWolf Student in the art of less

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    If you are at liberty to tell, can you tell us why Blue Hole is a "Special Interest Area". I tried hard to Google it without success. I learned that the forest service uses SIAs to protect an area that may contain a special or endangered species (plant or animal).

    Also, will law enforcement be in that area looking specifically for motorized vehicles or are you hinting at something else they will be looking for?
  8. bohawk

    bohawk Likes mechanical stuff

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    Not to beat this to death but I am sure others are interested. Are you talking about an actual sign that says "OPEN" or open according to a map like the USFS OHV Use maps? There are numerous trails that are not shown on those maps. I rarely go over a berm particularly one that has that skinny sign that says foot traffic only and I do not go around closed gates. There are plenty of other places to ride legally but there may not be as many as I thought, now. I have always figured that if it is an existing trail and does not say closed then it was open. Kinda like innocent until proven guilty. There may be a bunch of us guilty folks out there on 2 wheels and 4.

    "Riding for hours on end just doing my job." Dang, now that is a job a lot of us might enjoy. Does it ever get old?
  9. Vinduroman

    Vinduroman Been here awhile

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    Do NOT get me started on the takeover of OUR so-called "public lands" by the USFS and the lawmakers a thousand miles away.

    bohawk:

    There was a "terminology" (and policy) change several years ago. The term/policy used to be: "Open unless posted closed." However the above mentioned factions realized with a simple change of terminology, in one fell swoop they could shut down hundreds/thousands of miles of access without having the expense and work of "closing" access via signage/etc.

    Nevermind that public "hearings" were held here and there by the USFS to offer the public a chance for input. And yes, the "hearing" in the Ouachitas was HEAVILY attended by all segments of the outdoor motorized recreation groups and they all emphatically voiced their opposition to the proposition. The USFS politely listened and said they would "carefully consider those valued opinions"... and went right ahead with their changes anyway. We have ZERO voice in the way things are run in "our" so-called public lands.

    Arggghhh.... I need to be quiet now.
  10. Valentino Magoo

    Valentino Magoo Like a speeding slug

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    Good to know. Hey, go over to the Arkansas BS thread HERE, I posted up the relevant regs, and my interpretation. We can carry on that discussion (and let Vinduro let loose) over there. This is important stuff to know, and I wasn't aware of the extent of those changes. I may have been the only one, tho!
  11. OLEARY

    OLEARY Enlightened Voyager

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    Ignorance is Bliss! I don't want to know anything about it. I will just keep on riding and plead ignorance and pay the consequences. Just sayin.......! I think the less said about it the better. That is my two cents worth. :norton
  12. TroyWolf

    TroyWolf Student in the art of less

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    After reviewing the situation over the last several years, I think O'Leary's point is on target.
  13. TRZ Charlie

    TRZ Charlie That's MR. Asshole

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  14. scotty69

    scotty69 Been here awhile

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    20 Years, 2 Rangers on the trail. We shook hands, exchanged stories for half hour, then parted our ways. Nice folk.
  15. TroyWolf

    TroyWolf Student in the art of less

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    THANK YOU, Scotty. I appreciate first-hand, real life testimonies. I keep hearing fear stories about enforcement but none of them are first-hand.
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    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    Doesnt "hearing" a first hand story make it second hand?
  17. TroyWolf

    TroyWolf Student in the art of less

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    No. Examples:

    Second (third, whatever) Hand
    First Hand
    To carry any real value, it is also imperative that the listener knows the person giving the first hand account. In this case, I (we) know Scotty...at least to a degree that I trust what he is telling me on this subject.

    Now if/when I relay Scotty's experience, the person hearing it from me is getting it 2nd hand. The only point I was trying to make is that I've heard several stories about negative run-ins with enforcement for various things but never from anyone I personally know...and like most of us, I know a lot of riders.
  18. jtwest

    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    Thanks for the description. I was teasin though.
  19. njoytheride

    njoytheride NJOYN' THE JOURNEY

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    Some more great ride reports Charlie, Tim and Bo. Always a joy to see cool areas on the ride reports.
    I personally think it is a good idea to pass as much information on public access to public lands everywhere you can. We will loose some great riding opportunities if we don't speak up.
    BTW...According to the AMA, Obama will designate five new National Monuments on March 25th. With no public input and bypassing our elected representitves he will shut down access to public lands on ???? acres.
    Get involved or stay home. Won't be many placed left to ride anyway, everything will be blocked off.
  20. scotty69

    scotty69 Been here awhile

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    Thats why I pretty much gave up four wheelin' and went road legal dual sport. Any road becomes a trail if your riding at the top end of your skill level.