Armor review

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by yeagley23, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. muddbutt

    muddbutt Pork Chop Expert

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    The motoport triarmor seems like cheap closed cell foam. Motoport markets it as the result of 4 years of intensive study in germany. I am not sure any of the motoport armor is CE Level 1 or 2 certified.

    Whereas The sas-tec level 2 armor exceeds CE level 2.

    I doubt the quad back armor is as good as the new SAS Level 2 back armor at absorbing serious bone breaking forces. although it may feel softer..

    Here is why I think that. The quad armor uses Dow Corning's deflexion TP-S. Dow Cornings website states that

    "3 layers of Deflexion TP-S will meet CE Level 2. And 2 Layers are required to meet CE Level 1".

    Rukkas Deflexion based back protector that is CE level 2 uses 3 big pieces of Deflexion TP-s. Motoport uses 1 layer of deflexion on quad armor for arms, legs, chest, etc., and only uses 1.5 layers of Deflexion for the back. The deflexion is welded to a layer of triarmor. Also, the full layer of the deflexion in the quad armor is only a single strip, maybe 6-8 inches wide that covers the spine. However, to be fair, motoport says that it is the best armor in the world. http://www.motoport.com/QuadArmor2
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  2. JumboJack

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    They don't say anything, but apparently this is by design, as there are a lot of arguments on their site in regard to how the certifications are attributed and by whom.

    Yes, I bought into the motoport arguments, as there are many of them and without other considerations they make sense and look true, but now, when I place the tri-armor back protector against the Sas-Tec Level 2 one, I can't imagine both providing the same level of protection. I might try to make some empirical tests on my own, but I think at least for the back protector I'll look for a level 2 one that will fit ( or could be cut to fit ) the motoport pocket.

    Thanks also for your insight on the Quad !
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  3. mbishara

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    I was analyzing how safe Kevlar jeans are and then realized that I was only analyzing abrehsion protection. Then I started analyzing impact protection to place under the jeans.

    I realized that I would spend too much time strapping things in until I fell upon the Forecefield undershirt and pants.

    Supposedly they're both highly rated for impact protection, are comfortable and help to keep you a little bit cooler, although not as cool as when the protection is not there.

    I for my small jaunts around the house I'll wear m Kevlar Hood jeans, along with my Forcefield undergarments. And for my longer jaunts I'll still wear my Forcefield but under my leathers or mesh riding gear.

    In either case the extra protection is better than not having it.

    I spoke to Forcefield in the U.K. today and they even went as far as to tell me that I can even remove the armour that I have on my outer clothing if I feel that it's too tight. Their armor should be more than sufficient.

    My personal preference is that, if it's not uncomfortable, I will keep both layers of armour. But at least I won't look like an alien when going for a ten minute ride to a restaurant. And I'll be better protected when going for my longer rides with full riding gear.

    You should give Forefield a look. I read les of articles and crash reviews and they seem to be pretty good.
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  4. mbishara

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    I forgot to add that a friend of mine swears by it and won't leave the house without that extra protection.


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  5. Tachedoutoffroad

    Tachedoutoffroad Mr. Parrish

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  6. totomoto

    totomoto Been here awhile

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    +1 for SasTec. It always fares well in tests and is really comfortable.
    http://www.sas-tec.de/en/
    In the U.S., it is available at Revzilla and select motoshops.
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  7. mbishara

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    My Hood jeans came in yesterday. At first they seemed tight until I realized that it's a higher waist line and hd to be hiked up higher than what I would usually do with my Levi's.

    Still not sure if my Forcefield under armour will fit properly under the Hood jeans. I'll know more when the Forcefields do come in.

    One thing for sure is that I would like to use the Forcefields if I'm riding a few miles with my jeans. Because the Forcefields have additional padding for the thighs and shins in addition to the knees and hips.

    The Forcefields are very well rated during impact testing as well while the Hood jeans should be as good as you can get where it relates to riding jean abrasion protection.

    I'll be more confident with that combo except for real riding days where it will be my full mesh or leather outfits, still with the Forcefields underneath because of the additionally armour that even my full riding gear does not have (Forcefield undershirt also has a full back protector in addition to shoulder and elbow protection).


    http://www.maged-bishara-montreal.ca/
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  8. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    Just an update on my experiences with the Thor Impact Rig SE since my last post. A couple hundred hours more use on it, about 20 more offs of varying degrees. It still looks pretty much "as new", although it smells a bit. I'm now so used to it, I don't notice when I'm wearing it. I recently wore it over some thermals for the first time. Still very comfy and no holes in the fabric part, despite having worn nothing on my torso other than it during some hot weather.
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  9. Rapid Dog

    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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    I have a full jacket set of Klim d30 armor for sale in the FM if anyone is interested. Good stuff.
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  10. El Pacifico

    El Pacifico Been here awhile

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    I was about to start a new thread and ran into this. Instead, I will post my questions here. I like the reviews and looks of the Forcefield Pro Shirt.

    I noticed there is a newer version, Pro Shirt X-V. Claims to breathe better and having the zipper on the side allows a one-piece chest pad.

    Anyone have experiences with the new X-V? How well does it breathe? I know that ambient temps, speed, rider, etc. have a lot to do with the overall experience. Not everyone sweats at the same rates and has different hot/cold thresholds. Also, does anyone have anything to report on having the zipper on the side?

    thanks!
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  11. PropTP

    PropTP Been here awhile

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    The new Pro shirt is yet to be launched. I think Forcefield said theyll be out spring 2015, so they should be just around the corner.

    Ive got the current Pro Shirt with the split chest pads, and ive been happy with it. Havent suffered because of the heat, but then again i dont live in a hot place.
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  12. El Pacifico

    El Pacifico Been here awhile

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    The new Pro shirt is available at revzilla. I might order one soon.

    thanks for the input!
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