Around The Black and Caspian Sea

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  1. samaka

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    Planning my next trip "Around The Black & Caspian Sea I'm thinking of this route. Any suggestions, tips, must-see or big no-no are most welcome... The trip starts and ends in my hometown Västervik on the Swedish East Coast and the main purpose is to circumnavigate those two bodies of water so I don't need to extend into other countries. I have a few stops and sights planned in which you can see on my website http://www.aroundonabike.com/around-the-black-caspian-sea/ I'd appreciate all the advice I can get.
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  2. slowriding

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    Looks to be an epic ride, I'm jealous. I stayed at MotoCamp in Idilevo, Bulgaria in August and highly recommend it for a place to stay.
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  3. Zwarte-zee

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    It is realy Epic Ride!
    Notice the main and unique POI of Caspean sea:[​IMG]
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    It is located in Kaspiysk city. Closest point on your route is #41. But you should pass the Russian border.
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  4. Zwarte-zee

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    Be ready to waste a lot of time between #56 and #57. There is a ferry to Cremea peninsula and great queus to it. Bikers have bonuses there - they can pass all kilometeres of queus.

    The border between Cremea and UA is unpredictable. Usualy it is harder to enter to RUS than do it in out direction.

    There you will see militaries because it is considering that situation could turn to war there too.

    Anyway you will get a lot of impressions
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  5. samaka

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    Thanks mate! Nice photos! I've already locked in on this target before but I don't know why it dropped off the route... One of the highlights of the trip as this is one of my special interest.
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  6. samaka

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    Thanks for the input! I've been altering the route a little bit due to these facts. It's going to be a wider cirle all together as it seems...
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  8. Zwarte-zee

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    It seems to be a big problem to do the part between #54-55. Unfortunately there is a military conflict area.

    http://www.osce.org/special-monitoring-mission-to-ukraine/347981

    Here you can read rules for foreigners.

    http://dpsu.gov.ua/en/the-order-of-entry-and-exit-foreigners-and-stateless-persons

    It means that you will not be allowed to enter to Ukraine in such direction (from RUS side). BTW the same is for visitors from Cremea. You can enter to Ukraine from Cremea only if you entered to Cremea from Ukraine before.

    You can turn your trip in clockwise. It gives a chance.

    Second way is to take a ferry from Georgia to Ukraine:
    https://www.ukrferry.com/

    And the third is to detour conflict areas northward of it. Example is here:
    https://yandex.ua/maps/?lang=ru&cli...6.979872~46.532337,30.680524&rtt=auto&via=1~2
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  9. samaka

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    Thanks for this input buddy! I think the best of these options is the suggested "D-toure" around the conflict. The ferry would be nice but as the purpose of the trip is to circumnavigate the two boddies of water it feels like cheating... he he he...

    Cheers
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  10. BGil

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    The border between Crimea and Ukraine is not closed?
    That's very interesting, even if you have to enter it from Ukraine.

    Samaka, I don't know Azerbaijan but Armenia is a nice place to visit. You shouldn't miss it.

    Also, while you are in Tbilisi, take the time to follow the road to Stepansminda, at the Russian border, then back. It's well worth it (picture here).

    In Turkey, the gorge south of Trabzon (road E97) is beautiful (here is the view from a secondary road above the main road).
    In Cappadocia, I recommend Camping Panorama in Göreme. Nice place, friendly staff, the view is wonderful (like this).

    In Uzbekistan, you're visiting the shore of the Aral sea in Muynak (you have to do it but you will be slightly disappointed, there's nothing to see but a few rusting boats in the sand). Make a little detour east to spend a day or two in Khiva: don't cross Uzbekistan without visiting at least one Silk road city. Khiva is small and can be visited on foot.

    In Kazakhstan, be careful with the fuel between Beyneu and Atyrau.

    Good luck with your trip. I'm sure you will enjoy it!
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  11. Zwarte-zee

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    The border between Crimea and Ukraine is not closed. But Ukraine admits only one way you can get to Cremea: from UA territory. If you had come there by another way - it consider that you are the violator of the border regime. And you are not allow to visit UA againe.
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  12. samaka

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    Yhank you for all these very good advice! I have made taken them into concideration and will manke changes to my route accordingly! Brilliant! Cheers!

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  13. samaka

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    Yeah I've changed that now to a different route! Thanks!
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    Shipka monument is near Buzludja, and in my opinion worth visiting. Also, archeological complex Etara, just outside of Gabrovo. The ride over the Balkan mountains through Shipka pass is really nice.

    Varna is just a busy city. I am not sure of it's appeal to a motorcyclist.
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    I'd love to do such a trip, all around the Black Sea, and the Caspian too!!

    I visited Crimea during 2012--the road from Feodosia to Sudak is in my top 10.
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  16. samaka

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    Thanks for the input! I will make another trip concentrating on the Balkan only so then I will have time to visit these places They are now on the itinerary for "Around Balkan"

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  17. sasho

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    In Varna actually there's an excellent mechanic, should you need anything...
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  18. samaka

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    Now THAT's good intel! Do you have a name or address?
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  20. komendant

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    Hello samaka!
    I live between Black and Kaspian.
    I rided Black - 6 times, Kaspian - once.
    Posted in Russian - all, on ADV in English - only begining
    You need a lot of changes for good adventure.
    Heard something about Karnet, Turkmen VISA, IRAN VISA?
    Turkmens give only 5 days transit VISA with fixed day of entrance.
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