Ask woody about your BMW F800GS billet hubs/wheels

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  1. woody's wheel works

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    Hooray,,,hooray they are on their way!!!!

    huh????......wassup????.......
    GREAT news!!!!

    FYI: the new billet hubs are being prototyped and machined as i write....

    so here's what's cooking,,,the first front hub has been sent my way, analyzed and corrective feedback given,,,so i'll be getting the upgraded one for a final inspection shortly,,,it should weigh close to half pound less than the original....when approved we'll start machining metal:super

    next,,we hammered out the final plans for the rear,,,after much soul searching as well as researching prices and other options i decided to essentially take the proven RAD KTM 950ADV hub and make the node points ie widths identical to the oem rear hub....

    PROS:
    1... it will be substantially lighter and smaller in diameter

    2...this will result in us using significantly smaller diameter bar-stock,,,,leading to lower costs and waste

    3...by utilizing the 950 hub as a basis we lowered R&D costs

    4...by utilizing KTM sprocket components we have much lower component costs BWOE circa $70 /KTM for 42T or45T versus $94 for BMW's 42T .....There's greater diversity in sprocket sizes and aftermarket sprockets and rotors for the KTM

    5...our set-up will end up costing less than trying to build a trick wheel using new oem components FYI: we can still build trick wheels using your oem hubs as a basis

    6...i have ascertained today 1-5-2010 that the solution to the disc side will be to modify the ktm disc side a tiny bit in order to mount an adapter plate from the KTM's smaller 6 bolt circle to the very large disc 5 bolt circle...so this set-up will require the re-use of your oem disc and abs ring,,, a cost saving benefit plus your brake pads are already seated to your disc,,,,:thumb

    CONS:

    1...you'll have to buy a complete package,,,ie hub/sprocket carrier/rubber dampeners/sprocket n hardware

    here's the silver lining : at least you'll have a hub and sprocket carrier:thumb that's a tangible object!!,,yesterday i tried ordering all the above items,,NIS since the f800 was offered to you!!!,,,in fact the sprocket carrier isn't even listed in the MAX BMW fiche...kudos to my gal friday Jessica for tracking down 3 hubs and 13 sprocket carriers in germany...

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    more pics and story here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145899

    so these are just teaser pics of the old Ktm hubs we built,,upgraded stuff will be posted ASAP

    Special Kudos and Gratitude go to:
    Donato Yannatelli :beer:beer:beer:super:super:super
    for loaning his hubs to RAD n WWW for final R&D work....

    woody






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  2. Bartron

    Bartron Bike Punisher

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  3. Gangplank

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  4. never.ride

    never.ride Been here awhile

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    Yeah, pretty stoked about this one. I talked to Woody the other day and I should be one of the first ones to have the set up going. I live near by so it's easy to get in out of his place.

    He rebuilt my front wheel with a 1.85 Excel rim, super laced, stronger spokes, etc and it has been bomb proof. I will start on the rear wheel with the new billet set-up and also convert to a more narrow 18" rim. Also stoked to hear about what Woody will be doing with the cush-drive and sprocket so we can use KTM set-ups for gearing.

    I'll be sure to post pics and let y'all know how it goes.
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  5. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    here's a list of billet devotees

    the first set will go to Donato Yannatelli,,,for donating his hubs to the final R&D fine tuning effort

    #001 = Donato Yanatelli ,,,orange hubs with silver 19/17rims!!!!,,42T supersprox,galfer wavy-floating rotors :super

    #002 = never.ride dba pete lopinto,,,,black hubs with black excels 1.85x21 and 2.5x18 rear with 45T trick sprocket:super

    #003 = 'Rob214',,, black on black /45T stealth gold black if i can pull it off $16 extra/1.85x21 & 2.5x18 rear:super

    #004 = robbie's bro alias 'MikeNC' ditto:super

    #005= steve red,,,black on black 1.85x21 & 2.5x18 rear:super


    #006 = :dunnomaybe steve red's paris dakar replica
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    So, will these maybe work on an F650GS/Dakar?

    :ear
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  7. Captain Morgan

    Captain Morgan Thirsty for More

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    Hi Woody
    All the best for '10.
    I wrote to you previously and I'm still very interested in a set of new wheels for my F800GS.
    Is it too early to ask for a quote for 1 complete set, front and rear, including shippment to Bahrain? Furthermore, can the rims be black?

    Regards
    Graham
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  8. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    now how many times have i told you all you're at the candy store???:wink::wink::wink:

    have it YOUR way:thumb,,black blue silver red orange green gold hubs are free,,rims are usually a $75 uptick for strip and re-anodize....unless i score a factory size sold like that...i'm expecting the first official front hub on monday/tuesday,,,for final ok...front wheel circa $700-800 rear $800- $950 rear will be complete billet hub/sprocket carrier/42 or 45T spkt[KTM]
    all you need is install your oem disc and abs ring:thumb

    Capt Woody
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  9. woody's wheel works

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    :dunnowill check over the weekend:dunno

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  10. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    How would you like to have your cake and eat it too???

    Anyone who get's their oem rear wheel upgraded to better spokes/rims/superlace,,i will check and repair your mis-bored oem hub while i have the wheel apart already...my preference is that ya get the replacement parts from BMW under warranty ie bearings and seals if necessary....if i supply new components,,,it won't be more than $20-30 for new bearings n seals....

    i've developed a better technique to hone out your bores to the size they should have been in the first place:wink:
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    sooo ,,,here's the final version of the 5oz lighter front hub,,,,next to the oem,,,you'll have a free choice of colors,,all your oem hardware discs and ABS ring will swap out:thumb

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    Here's a sneak preview of what the rear disc/ABS side will look like,,,an adapter plate transforms the smaller 6 hole KTM hole pattern to the larger 5 hole BMW pattern. The adapter will be invisible behind the oem disc and ABS ring,,,,on the other side the cush drive assembly will sport oem KTM cush drive rubbers and 950 sprocket bolt size and pattern...allowing a broader more cost effective choice of sprockets:thumb....are we in the ball-park???....pass the word because we are in the last stages getting ready to let chips fly...kudos to Bob and Shane at RAD for collaborating and making this project a reality:thumb


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    never.ride Been here awhile

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    that...is...what...I'm ...talking...about

    Nice f'ing work guys!!! :D
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  13. woody's wheel works

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    to me !!!!..Bob at RAD got with it and called me yesterday afternoon for final check/approval...so with a lil luck....ya'll keep those fingers crossed and pass the word and i'll get ya on the LIST..

    Pics will be heading your way on Monday/Tuedsay:thumb

    we're working on cush drive for BMW450X next..keep ya posted who knows maybe even V-strom and Versys too!!!

    later ,,woody
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  14. soloyosh

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  15. woody's wheel works

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    OK here's the first prototype rear....all major node points are right on the money...if you look at the outline of the sharpie,,you'll see the profile necessary for the ABS ring to clear the adapter...

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    here the pen points to the little re-enforcing lip on the backside of the ABS ring ,,,oops my pen moved..actually it is the lil lip around the outside that curls upwards that got in the way,,,OBTW this pic shows the ABS ring wrong-side up just to illustrate what the glitch was..FYI most ABS rings are just flat sheet metal.
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    view from sprocket adapter side of cush unit with main hub to its right...
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    here's the 45T Supersprox,,also available with oem KTM 42T ,44T, 45T,46T,50T & 52T amazing ehhh...variety/bling/just $84.95ea vs.oem BMW=just 42T available for $94ea
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    here's all the components needed to get the job done,,special spacers,,and adapter plate,,,oem BMW rear disc and ABS ring to be swapped from your wheel or pay circa $450 for those 2 items with mounting hardware:cry:eek1 if ya do not feel like doing the manual labor :wink:
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  16. robhar54

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    Gorgeous!

    Sorry if I missed this: What range is possible on the rear sprocket? Stock is 42T.

    Thanks.

    Rob in Seattle

    PS. This is the one BMW is going to be giving to all of us, right? ;)
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  17. never.ride

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    Hey Rob. You can run any of the KTM 950/990 rear sprockets. So pretty much any size you may need is available.

    I am going to put an 18" on the back with the new hub and go to a 45t Stealth Sprocket. I am already running a 15t up front now with a the stock 17" wheel and 42t. Check this: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542211
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  18. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    getting close ..i tossed this into the hopper because it may all work

    x fingersXXX w

    can ya believe this.. a year n 2 months ago i built the first super street set up for Chris the good guy sales person at BMW of Denver and another SuperMoto set for Max BMW on the northeast coast using some billet hubs i had floating around ,,,didn't take much to modify them,,,,

    check this out ,,,so now we'll make an ''official set''


    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403947

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  19. Bartron

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    Brilliant work. I can see the advert now....beautiful hubs in assorted colors and a tagline that asks, "Got Wood?" with the Woody's logo and info on the bottom.

    Like a kid with a brand new toy, I think I'd take these everywhere with me...wonder if they'll fit in the locker at work.

    In terms of chainrings, beauty is that there's a wider selection of KTM chainrings (950, 990, 950SE) than BMW chainrings. Here are some links:

    Ironman Sprockets by Dirt Tricks, Size: 42 & 45

    Supersprox Stealth, Size: 42, 44, 45, 46, 50, 52
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  20. woody's wheel works

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    ok....here's the sprocket availablity...KTM..oem

    <table class="OemProdList" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="645"><tbody><tr id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl14_trProdEntry" class="OemProdListEntry"><td class="OemProdDesc" align="left" height="20" valign="middle">

    REAR SPROCKET 45-T 03

    </td> <td class="value" align="center" valign="middle"> 7231929-001 </td> <td class="value" align="center" valign="middle"> <input name="ctl00$cphMain$ucOemSchTabs$tcSchematicTabs$tabParts$ucOemSchProductList$rptrProducts$ctl14$txtQty" value="0" maxlength="2" id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl14_txtQty" class="OemProdQty" style="width: 50px;" type="text"> Enter 0-99 </td> <td class="value" align="right" valign="middle"> $65.29 <input name="ctl00$cphMain$ucOemSchTabs$tcSchematicTabs$tabParts$ucOemSchProductList$rptrProducts$ctl14$hidBsin" id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl14_hidBsin" value="954951" type="hidden"> <input name="ctl00$cphMain$ucOemSchTabs$tcSchematicTabs$tabParts$ucOemSchProductList$rptrProducts$ctl14$hidPfID" id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl14_hidPfID" value="7231929" type="hidden"> </td> </tr> <tr id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl15_trProdEntry" class="OemProdListEntry"> <td class="OemProdDesc" align="left" height="20" valign="middle">

    REAR SPROCKET 42-T 03

    </td> <td class="value" align="center" valign="middle"> 7231927-001 </td> <td class="value" align="center" valign="middle"> <input name="ctl00$cphMain$ucOemSchTabs$tcSchematicTabs$tabParts$ucOemSchProductList$rptrProducts$ctl15$txtQty" value="0" maxlength="2" id="ctl00_cphMain_ucOemSchTabs_tcSchematicTabs_tabParts_ucOemSchProductList_rptrProducts_ctl15_txtQty" class="OemProdQty" style="width: 50px;" type="text"> Enter 0-99 </td> <td class="value" align="right" valign="middle"> $76.19</td></tr></tbody></table>

    Supersprox-Stealth only in gold centers with black outer all $84.95

    42T,45T & ???
    ps i.m working with the factory on sizes and color..FYI,,,i can get black centers @$16 extra per=$101 total..need to order 12ea minimum....

    Ironman sprockets,,silver,,,all are $119 42T &45T only

    holler and let me know:thumb

    woody
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