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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by woody's wheel works, Jun 17, 2006.
Woody, sent ya a request thru the website on my 2002 KTM 400EXC wheels.
Hey woody, i just discovered this forum via your website and thought i'd try my luck here for little help.
I would like to convert my stock wheels over to black aluminum rims.Was thinking about going with 18" front and back.. do you see any advantage to changing that from the stock 17"/19" setup? Considering aesthetics mostly and street handling, as this bike doesn't really ever see dirt.
Can you give me a rough idea of cost to lace up new rims to my hubs.
Am in Jackson Hole visiting my daughter,,,
Sorry will be back in shop on Monday,,will attempt to have someone get on this sooner...
IMHO your OEM 19/17 set up is a generically well proven combo for most Adventure bikes that stay on the slab for most of their life,,.vintage canyon carvers/road racers appreciate the 18/18 combo usually using a slightly larger wider rim and bigger tire on the rear....
1,,, set of aloy rims circa$500
2,,, re-anodize black circa z$150 for both
3,,, heavy duty ss spokes n ss nipples are circa $125 per kit
4,,,custom lace n true is $99 per wheel,,Superlace n true is $111 per wheel with one year warranty
Holler with more. Questions
Got my new Front 1.85 x 21 excel with new RAD hub in the mail today and am total happy. What an awesome piece of kit.
Just have a question on the appearance change of the rim.
All through this thread I notice the black rims have the gold lettering on the side and mine has arrived blank?
I was really looking forward to some bling on my rim.
Have Excel stopped putting there name in bold on the side of the rim?
Anyway your work is outstanding.
Sorry mate,,,,Excel doesn't produce black rims in that size
Hence,,we have to strip and re anodize black,,,,
On the other hand there may be some decal kits floating around the shop,,,I recall they are a bit pricey,,,will check for you though and let ya have em at cost plus ,,,,
FYI,,,the oem ones are silk-screened on there....
Glad ya like em and pass the word,,, we let our handiwork do that for us....
'G-day to you n all of my mates down under
Cheers that would be great!
Get back to me re the price when you can.
I am trying to build a 19" front wheel for an older KTM set of forks and would like to buy some spokes to suit, from you if you can provide them?
This might be a standard spoke, but I can't figure it out.
The hub I have is a 36H, 17mm axle, KTM hub (for WP50 extreme forks) which I am pretty sure is in Jap spoke pattern (my 21" stock wheel for these forks with what looks like the same hub is Jap pattern- but I don't know how to tell if this bare hub is the same- assuming it is).
The rim is a "J 19X1.85" 36H Excel, Jap pattern- originally described as a rear rim suitable for a range of smaller Jap bikes.
Holes for the spokes by my closest measure
hub = 5.1mm
rim = 8.7mm (same size holes as a spare 'ktm' 21" excel Al7 rim I have)
Are you able to sell or recommend a set of spokes to lace this together? I would probably prefer stainless, but will take what I can get.
Shipping would be to Australia.
here are a couple of photos and extra info below.
This front wheel is actually for my R80G/S for the fork swap I have done on it- I've got a set of 18" rear 21" front wheels for knobbies, and this 19" front wheel will be for road-oriented dual purpose tyres and matched to a 18X2.15 rear wheel.
Is it possible to offset the standard R100R cross laced wheel so I can fit to an older bike(mono lever) The 17inch Rim touches the swing arm in the factory position.
I've browsed the thread and have seen a few posts on the G650X XChallenge but either I'm blind, dumb or both. So, what are my options for getting good rims on front and back, 21x1.6 and 18x2.15? Can I use the stock hubs or no? What's this going to cost?
BTW, I had you guys work on the rear wheel bearings on my F800GS, 6k mi and they still seem ok. I still have my fingers crossed. We'll see at >10k. Thanks!
I will be leaving Lazaro Cardenas, MX tomorrow morning on a KTM 990ADV that hit a curb and not only put a v in the front rim, it also split the rim. After substantial welding by some guys that have been racing Motocross for many years, I will be starting the 1,900 mile ride home. Yes, I will be watching for topes and pot holes very carefully! The rear rim was also bent and was heated and re-shaped. What would a ball park figure be to replace the front rim with one of the stronger rims, replace what ever spokes may be needed, lace and true it and send it back to Mississippi? What are your thoughts on using heat to re-shape the rear rim? It was not bent as much as the front and had not lost air pressure with the Goop tubeless method. It has a tube in it now because the heat melted the goop. You can PM me or put it here if you like. The moto is insured and I will definitely start things happening when I get home. Thanks!
Donnie W. Jennings
We do have the sticker set's for $28/set of eight sticker's. We'll sell ya 1/2 set for $14.
If you want to have them, it would be best to call us at 303-936-0232 or email us at email@example.com
[quote="OZZY-GS, post: 21839241"]Cheers that would be great!
Get back to me re the price when you can.
You do have a Jap index rim and Jap index hub, but unfortunately the rim needs to be re-drilled and countersunk to make the nipple's point in the correct direction and width or it will cause them to bind at the nipples.
We have normally used our superlace to allow the rear rims to work best with the front hubs. The main issue is the angles on the rim are too wide and it won't work correct until it's drilled/countersunk right.
We can supply a spoke kit for the rim and hub you have, but the rim still needs to be drilled for it to work properly.
It would be 110 for a stainless steel spokes/nipple kits for each wheel.
If you have more specific questions, email us at firstname.lastname@example.org
Yes we can off-set oem X-laced wheels with the oem spokes up to 1/4" safely. If it needs more it would require new spokes to allow the off-set.
We can true them over for around $180-300 depending on if the rims bent or not. If the wheel needs new spokes it would be $200 for lace/true + $200 for stainless steel spokes/nipples set.
OBTW!,Doing this will change the centerline of the rear wheel,,which normally can be corrected by re-aligning/adjusting the swing arm location via ear axle pivot bolt adjusting nuts.(sez woody)
We would recommend using a 1.85 x 21 front excel rim with our superlace and stainless steel spokes/nipples for the best all around 50/50 riding wheel. If you are going more off-road and are more aggressive then the 1.6 x 21 will be best.
The oem rim is only worth fixing if you are in need of getting home. Otherwise it's basically too soft for any off-road riding at all.
We can lace your hub with new stainless steel spokes/nipples superlaced with a 21 x 1.85 black excel for $531 + shipping. We can re-use your oem spokes if they are good, but it would be $412 for the rim and unlace/lace/true.
The 21 x 1.6 black excel rim would be less expensive and would require new stainless steel spokes/nipples. It can be from $399 for a Takasago rim, stainless steel spokes/nipples and superlaced, up to $500 for the strongest 21 x 1.6 Excel A60 rim, superlaced with stainless steel spokes/nipples.
PS,,woody chiming in,,Please note,,for the big Adv bikes I highly recommend going the Superlace route,,,they truly are the toughest solution out there,,,in fact we warranty em for a year against spokes loosening.
Regarding the heating business,,,it depends on how much heat was put on it. We also use heat sparingly.mostly on cast wheels. Your rim has probably lost it's tensile strength in that spot. It was a temporary solution that got ya going again.
We have plenty of options for wheel's on the G650 oem hubs. We have built many superlaced wheel's with oem hubs, excel rims, and stainless steel spokes/nipples. We can re-use the oem spokes with a 21 x 1.6 and 18 x 2.15, but not excel 2.5 x 18 the drop center is too small which makes the oem spokes too long. It can be $400-550 for excel rims to use your oem spokes.
It can be up to $1100 to rebuild your oem hubs with black excel rims, superlaced with stainless steel spokes/nipples.
If you have more questions, it's best to call us at 303-936-0232 or email us at email@example.com
Thanks for your info! I like the idea of the Superlaced rim and the SS spokes. Would that all be in black like the current spokes and rim? I use this moto for adventure touring. Meaning that I ride gravel and dirt if it is in the way of where I am going, but nothing more. Think Prudhoe Bay and Inuvick, NWT. I know nothing about rim sizes, but it seems that I have read that a wider rim is better for more street oriented riding. The most aggressive tire I will ever use is the Heidenau Scouts, which is what is on it now. The stock rim is 2.15, correct? I would want Excel or what ever is the best rim. There are millions of speed bumps down south where I ride, pot holes too.
I am now 900 miles and two days from home!
Just picked up an 08 990 ADV that came with your 17x19 super lace setup.
The rim would be black, but it's an extra $100 to powder-coat the spokes/nipples. Which actually comes off easy with a lot of off-road riding.
The 1.85 x 21 would be best for the 90/9021 Heidenau Scout tire's for the type of riding you are doing. The 2.15 x 21 would be best for pure street, as the 1.85 x 21 is best for 50/50 riding.
If you would like to order, it's best to call or email us at firstname.lastname@example.org
QUOTE=dwj - Donnie;21875216]Thanks for your info! I like the idea of the Superlaced rim and the SS spokes. Would that all be in black like the current spokes and rim? I use this moto for adventure touring. Meaning that I ride gravel and dirt if it is in the way of where I am going, but nothing more. Think Prudhoe Bay and Inuvick, NWT. I know nothing about rim sizes, but it seems that I have read that a wider rim is better for more street oriented riding. The most aggressive tire I will ever use is the Heidenau Scouts, which is what is on it now. The stock rim is 2.15, correct? I would want Excel or what ever is the best rim. There are millions of speed bumps down south where I ride, pot holes too.
I am now 900 miles and two days from home! [/QUOTE]
Looks great, let us know how you like them on the bike.