Ask Woody About Your Wheels

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  1. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Nowwhat,,what am i missing:ear,,haven't heard of 9x0 hubs,,,,Please,clue me in on what year model bike you are referring to...
    thanks,,
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  2. URAL CT

    URAL CT Been here awhile

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    Howdy Woody,
    What causes cracks along the hole (on the rim) where the spokes come out? I'm puzzled by this. Thanks for any advice.
  3. Nowwhat

    Nowwhat I'll Go Second...

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    Sorry boss

    950 or 990....got lazy hence 9x0

    so the old hubs with the new tubeless rims off the 1190 adventures....seems like a slam dunk....I have the ktm tubeless wheels fitted on my 690 enduro....they are simple and work....

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  4. MCMXCIVRS

    MCMXCIVRS Long timer

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    UPS just delivered these to my door. These are for my 2009 F800GS; a 21x1.85 for the front and 17x3.5 rear sealed for a tubeless tire. :clap

    Just gotta find some rubber for them now.

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  5. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    We know what you meant by 9x0, which mean's the 950/990 hub's as they are the same hub front and rear, the only difference is the disc side spacer on the rear wheel that's different.

    We haven't had the new 1190 wheel's in here to see what will interchange. If you are close or have a friend with a bike who would be willing to let us do some testing and R and D on their bike, which would only take a couple hour's we can figure out what will work best.

    Thanks Zach
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    Nowwhat I'll Go Second...

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    Thanks Zach but that isn't really my question....

    The KTM Tubeless Rims are now available in 17, 18, 19 and 21" sizes..,,Woody's hasn't laced any of these sizes to older hubs?....Curious as to why...seems like a slam dunk for you guys....
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    soo i did a little research and came up with the following data/info....

    a few years back KTM made some special rims 5x17 rear and 3.5x17 front that had a special set of grooves running concentric with the rim to the left and right side of the spoke dimples ...a special rim-band was inserted in the drop center effectively sealing the dimples....here 's a link to some of that story:
    http://www.supermotojunkie.com/show...ing-your-spoked-wheels-tubeless-with-pictures

    i bought a set-up to see just what was cooking...i'm sure somewhere on the forum i even posted pics of them...we're told that KTM essentially used the same technique on the recent models in the sizes you mentioned.

    FYI: these rims /special rim bands should interchange with most of your existing hubs. so on our part we'd charge for an OEM relace n true circa $100 plus the parts... if you want to enhance the strength and durability of your wheels you can upgrade to our time proven SUPERLACE $111 with one year warranty [includes re-angling /countersinking nipple holes PLUS a heavy duty SS spoke n nipple set circa $125+/- PLUS the cost of the KTM tubeless rim/rim band...when Superlacing i always listen to your needs and choose an appropriate/optimal spoke size and lace pattern accordingly.:deal

    :freaky
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  8. OZZY-GS

    OZZY-GS Been here awhile

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    Hello Woody,

    Can you please have a look at the below thread I have posted on Advrider.
    Its a problem i have with my Brake Caliper rubbing on my brake disc.
    I have a new rim and hub from you on the front.
    Do you think it may be possible that the new RAD hub on the wheel my be out of line.
    Please have a look and give me your thoughts. I am taking the bike to the dealer tomorrow and would like to have more info on hand.


    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926544
  9. gr8ridn

    gr8ridn Been here awhile

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    Hi Woody,
    I have a 2013 GSW with a front spoke wheel issue. When new it rode perfectly smooth and had no steering wobble. Over the couse of 8000 miles it began showing steering wobble between 45 and 60 MPH. I checked the spoke tension of the front wheel and found several dull sounding spokes after tapping all of them with the front wheel unloaded.

    I snugged the loose spokes to a similar tone to the other spokes and the wobble became worse on test ride. I measured the wheel to have excessive lateral runout using my wheel balance stand and dial indicator. I loosened more spokes and retigned to 3nm atempting to cleanup thelateral runout. LOOKING BACK I WAS DECENDING INTO WHEEL HELL! Spinning the wheel it had a 2mm lateral wobble and 1.5mm radial runout.

    This wheel has not seen any harse off road use and no big impacts on the road. There is no appearent damage to the rim except the lack of trueness. The rim may need straightening after tighening the spokes improperly.

    What can I expect to pay for correcting this mess I have created? Time to step back and let the pros get the wheel back to the feel when the bike was new. Perhaps this wheel wasn't set up correctly at the factory, but with my messing with it I don't think warranty would be right.

    I figure I can ship from CA to your shop. I plan to sent minus the speed sensor wheel, brake discs, and air pressure sensor to reduce the non- essential items for this work.

    Thanks for your advise.
  10. woody's wheel works

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    Rx = :
    1,,send to WWW as you have described

    2,,we'll measure runout before and after re-truing

    3,,we'll essentially loosen R&R all grub screws

    4,,loosen clean n lube all nipples #3 & 4 = circa $30

    5,,align and re-true your wheel according to OUR specs/techniques = $150

    6,, check if welded area divot is within our specs ie .035'' or less..if more we recommend repairing the divot = $30 per side

    7,,QC check plus one year warranty = peace of mind

    8,,return wheel to you ...circa 1-2 day turnaround this time of year:deal

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  11. gr8ridn

    gr8ridn Been here awhile

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    Thanks Woody, sounds great.

    I talked to Chris today to confirm the shipping arrangements.

    I will take off unnecessary items such as brake discs and tire pressure sensor. Will ship it out tomorrow.

    It will be nice to have a true wheel that is setup to closer specs than the factory.

    Regards,
  12. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    G'day Ozzy-GS,,,,sorry to hear of your woes,,,thought my wizard Zach had ya covered,,he ended up sick and a no show today,,,no worries I,,I put my 2cents worth in your thread,here:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22554925&postcount=27

    Hope that throws some light on the subject
    :freaky
    Woody


  13. matjas

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    As regards wheels.

    I am doing a major rebuild of my '98 R1100GS and as the front wheel is all rusty and needs to be unlaced anyway I wanted to go 21" front on a 21" TL Behr rim.
    The question really is: using the cross lace pattern I would be tempted to use the HP2 oem spokes BUT, will they fit nicely to the original R1100GS hub????

    IS the OEM HP2 hub the same diameter as the R1100GS so that I could just use HP2 spokes of the same as R1100GS lenght and have a 21" wheel?

    IF not - whan lenght of spoke should I look for?

    any input on this will be appreciated. :clap

    regards
    matjas
  14. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Hallo math as,,

    HP-2 Stainless spokes an new nipples and grub screws shoul work just fine using the 21'' R 100 GS/PD alloy rim.... FYI !!!HP-2 21" front rims are simply anodized R100 GS/PD rims...good luck with re-building the X-laced rims..holler if ya run into trouble :wink:

    Woody
  15. dellangary

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    I would like to run Tubeless rims/tires on my 2008 KLR 650. Can you make them?

    thanks,
    Gary
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    hi gary,,,what sizes do you want....we can take certain rims that are genuine tubeless and convert to that bike they mostly come in a 19/17 configuration which is great all around dual sport wheel size leaning heavily toward mostly street and fire road activity/use

    we can seal your rear or show you how to...

    we only seal rims with a safety bead...

    holler
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    jasonmt Been here awhile

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    I have a 2011 Husky TXC 449 that I have had since new and just picked up a leftover 2011 Husky TE 449 and am planning on stripping them both down over the winter; putting all of the aftermarket and any "better" TXC parts on the TE. Planning on selling the TXC in the spring after I am sure that the TE is fully sorted as a 95% off road bike but fully street legal.

    Both bikes have Grimeca polished hubs but the TXC has OEM issue Excel Takasago rims and the TE has Saxxes Race (bike is brand new but has been on the floor for 3 years, assuming the Saxxes Race were a fill in item?), just wondering if one is better than the other assuming all other parts of the wheel sets are identical?
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    The Excel rim's are a little stronger than the Saxess, they are made with a little stronger aluminum that is more resistant to bending.

    All other part's like spokes/hub's should be the same. You just want to make sure the spacing is the same on the hub.

    Thanks Zach
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    jasonmt Been here awhile

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    Thanks!

    Will confirm the spacing and put the Excel wheelsets on the bike I am keeping.