Ask Woody About Your Wheels

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by woody's wheel works, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. Throttlemeister

    Throttlemeister Long timer

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    Speaking of stronger rims, are the Excel's tougher than the Sun Rims or DID Dirtstars? How do they rank? Are there a couple of versions of Excels, I remember reading about A60s and the Takasago etc.
  2. gr8ridn

    gr8ridn Been here awhile

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    I received my wheel today and it is fabulous. True as can be with no visible run-out in any direction. A quick test ride after mounting new tires verified all wobble and vibration ride symptoms have gone away

    Great job with a fast turn around. Better than new.

    Thanks Woody.
  3. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Great, let us know if you have any questions.

    Thanks Zach
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    The Excel A60 rim's are the strongest rim's available, then there Takasago line is the next in strength. They also have the Notako line that is the same strength that they put on oem wheel's.

    DID oem dirtstar's are the same strength as the Notako rim's, but are a little lighter, they STX rim's are supposed to be the same strength as the A60 rim's, but we've seen them all get bent when subjected to MX jumping and hard aggressive trail riding.

    The sun rim's are the softest of all, they are lighter but aren't suggested for off-road use. They use a 6000 series aluminum, and are much softer than the excel rim's, which have been the standard for year's.

    Thanks Zach
  5. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Glad to be able to help everyone out. It's a pleasure to give you a much better ride like the wheel's should have in the beginning.

    Thanks Zach
  6. EdGear

    EdGear Edventurer

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    Hi Woody

    I had lots of fun in Death Valley last weekend. 350 miles in three days.
    Southpass, Lippincott, White Top, Hunter, Darwin, Centennial Flats, Cerro Gordo, Salt Tram,
    Panamint wash to Wildrose (extreme washouts near end), Pleasant Valley to Rogers Pass and Minietta Cabin.
    The heavy rains in DV this summer made many sections more rocky and I hit lots of rocks.

    I have your 1.85 Excel Takasago super laced front rim and I was running Dunlop 908RR with dunlop bib's.
    Having the bibs maybe I was careless or maybe I was just having more fun riding harder.
    I can tell I put some little dents in the rim because the bib lube leaked out. More leak indicates more of a dent.
    Leak plus scratch on rim are the bigger impacts.

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    1 larger, 3 smaller
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    Its my first time with bibs and the traction was great. I am wondering about needing to repair the rim.
    The dents are not that big but bib lube has leaked a bit.
    Is the bib lube leak related to the single event where the bead was momentarily disrupted
    or has the dent caused a less efficient bead/ rim seal?

    Your thoughts?
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Glad to see your are using the wheel's to their potential. The issue with the bib Mousse is that it run's like it has very low pressure, so it's easy for the tire to flatten and hit the rim more direct when hitting harder terrain. It does look like they are a little bent on the lip's but if it's still spinning straight and all the spokes are tight it will be fine, they don't look big enough to make a difference.

    They probably lost the lube when it hit the object and if they are bigger bend's then the lube will come out more because it's not allowing the tire to seal all the way.

    If you would like to get it straightened, it would be around 60-80 to straighten/true the wheel + tire change and shipping.

    If you are riding more aggressive and a lot off-road, it would be stronger to get the 21 x 1.6 Excel A60 rim if you are bending the wider rim still. It's better to run tire pressure above 25 psi on the bigger bike's or it's easier to bend the wider rim's.

    Thanks Zach
  8. EdGear

    EdGear Edventurer

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    Zach
    Thanks for the reply, sent you a PM
  9. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

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    Hey there WWW/Zach :wave

    I have an 05 F650gs that I am putting the forks from a 05 YZ450 .... on.
    I plan on using a yamaha YZ hub rotor and caliper. My problem is that I love the 19" size wheel that is OEM BMW. I just don't do enough technical off road to justify the OEM YZ 21" skinny tire, and its road manners are right where I want them.
    can you lace up a 19" Excel with a yammy hub for me?

    I am also interested in getting a matching rear excel laced to a 17" BMW rear hub.

    I could get away with the Takasago on both, but would also like to explore the A60 rims. about half the reason for doing these upgrades is weight and strength.... Is there a diffference in the weight between A60 and Takasago?

    I really appreciate the contribution WWW has made to the ADV community, so I thought I would come here first.

    Thanks
    Jack
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    holler when you are ready to drop the hammer
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  11. wrenchedit

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    Hi Woody & Crew -

    I'd like to ride my 950 all winter, and would like to make changing summer/winter tires easy by having each as a full built set. So, 2 questions:

    1 - what can I expect to pay for a fully built set of rims (bearings, seals, spacers, sprocket, brake disc, etc.) for front & rear?

    2 - any recommendations on studded winter tires for street use? I don't plan to go ice racing (at least not this winter!:wink:)

    Thanks!
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Well that's a question few have posed:wink:,,,,I usually steer people to solutions optimizing on/off-road capabilities.

    If you are satisfied with the 21/18 set up you are currently sporting(I'm assuming that's what you are riding on)

    Then the most cost effective way to get a spare set would be finding some good used take off wheels circa $800-1k from what I've usually seen em go for...I'll check to see what's in my storage bin..

    We could also build ya a cost conscious set....IMHO,,,since you'll be riding in snow/wet/gravel-salty-bromide covered roads,,,,,,you'd be better off with wheels that sport ss spokes and nipples,,,well anodized or powder coated rims and hubs and bearings re-packed with waterproof grease.

    Around my neck of the woods(Rocky Mountains),,,I think the ice-racers tend toward 19/18 tire combos..studded with Kold-Kutter carbide screws. They don't allow the spikes used in Canada/Finland/Russia

    Perhaps some of the all winter riders can chime in on what works for them...I'm sorry that I don't have time today to list all the other options available to ya:cry

    Keep me posted,
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  13. Drunk_Uncle

    Drunk_Uncle Long timer

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    Woody,

    Are the rims of wire wheels location specific? I am thinking of buying a Tiger 800 XC and thought about have a 19" front wheel made for road riding and keeping off road tire on the 21". I am finding rear 19" 36 rims on ebay fairly cheap. Could you lace these into a factory hub?
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    we can laceall wheel conversions provided:

    1,,same number of spokes in rim n hub
    2,,the indexing matches your hub,,,on std style hubs we can flip spoke pattern/index readily
    3,,nipple hole diameter is compatible with available nipples
    4,,spoke angle in rim matches the spoke pattern/the diameter and width of your hub.:deal

    FYI: we can modify the angle within safe parameters.

    so i'd really need to see the rim you have AND the hub you plan on using to confirm the feasiblity of the conversion.

    holler
    woody
  15. HunSolo

    HunSolo Mad Monk

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    Hey Woody and Zach,

    My son and I have HP2 enduros. You built me a 19" front that I like a lot. I'm planning on giving a 19"-17" GSA wheel set to my son for his bike. Do you still turn the front GSA hubs to remove the second set of brake disc mounts? If so, is that still a hundred dollar bill?

    Thanks
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Still,,same price,,,that's with the wheel disassembled unfortunately...tubeless X-lace wheel /rim R&R / relace and true usually runs circa $180 if you are lucky and up to $230 if the spokes/nipples are all frozen up. You could totally dismantle and clean the components squeaky clean ..then i'll only charge $150 for a x-lace n true....a good investment because we do what it takes to keep your true stay true much longer....have done hundreds with no come-backs:deal

    holler when you are ready.

    OBTW,,,don't know what year GSA ya have recent ones sport the nice black anodizing,,earlier ones have the problematic fading purple...for $75ea we can strip an dre-anodize most any color,,,FYI: silver/clear and satin black are the most durable color wise.

    woody
  17. HunSolo

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    I will call Rochelle and send the wheel to you, along with (2) HP2 sidestands for your adjustable length mod.

    I find that your Superlace wheels make such a difference in rigidity that I have given up running anything else on my GS, GSA and HP2's. What is the upcharge to Superlace this stock GSA 19" wheel?

    You built a beautiful set of wheels for Warthog/Alan with a 320mm wave rotor on your Superlite hub. Got that rotor for the BMW hub?


  18. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    HunSolo,,,,whenever ya take a wheel apart especially the X-laced wheels is when ya want to upgrade/re-anodize/Superlace etc...

    so in your case building the strongest X-laced Superlaced will rub ya an extra $20 labor for re-drilling the rim to accept the beefier SS spokes...
    the custom SS spoke with our trick SS nipple kit runs circa $250.....

    From what Zach just told me...they are $30 more than the most recent BMW price adjustment of circa $230 for their ss skinnier spokes and powder-coated nipples. ...OBTW our SS nipples are longer so ya won't see any threads where the nipples meet the spokes...and they'll never rust/corrode like the OEM ones constantly do..Hence they are a great investment IMHO:deal

    thanks for the kudos,,,
    Tell me your and your kid's T-shirt size,,,Santa is on his way:wink:
    woody
  19. darmahman

    darmahman "Illogically Deluded"

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    Woody - Are you going to be around Saturday at the store or will somebody? I forgot to call today and set up a time tomorrow to pick up a wheel you guys did for me . I am coming down from Ft. Collins around 10 - 11 am. Let me know if I can stop by. Thanks - Mike Mosiman
  20. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    hi mike
    no problem,,,just call me on my cell 303-550-9416 when ya get near, [ i live at 2201 s platte river dr,,in the house to the east of my new building] an working/doing home improvements on my property
    see ya ,,woody