Ask Woody About Your Wheels

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  1. gen

    gen Been here awhile

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    Understood, thank you for the details. Are you able to check the hubs for these tapered bore qc issues if we buy from you?
  2. E-Bum

    E-Bum Been here awhile

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    Hi Zach,

    So if I did choose to go to 8 gauge and sent my hubs in, does that $222 inlcude the price of drilling/countersinking and superlacing? Or does the $222 only include superlacing with standard size spokes?
  3. woody's wheel works

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    Hi,

    The $222 extra is for the Superlacing/truing which includes' the drilling/countersinkig of the hub/rim's and lace/true for both wheels.

    Thanks Zach




  4. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Yes we do have them ship the hub's apart so we can check bore's, which the new machinist they have has been very great on this. We also re-pack the bearing's with waterproof Bel Ray grease.

    Thanks zach


  5. Phreaky Phil

    Phreaky Phil Long timer

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    Hi Zach, some years ago you built a radical offset wheel to adapt the disc brake to my BMW R80 GS. Its still working good. :D
    At the moment I have 2 sets of DRZ400 forks, one on my DR650 and the other maybe for the R80. With the DRZ front wheel the bearings dont seem to last. they are quite small, from memory 37x20x9. In comparison my R80 wheel has much larger bearings 52x20x? They last for ages. However the BMW wheel is really heavy. Is there a lightweight hubb that could be used with the large bearings. ? What size are the bearings in your Superlite hubbs

    Cheers Phil
  6. igormortis

    igormortis Cafe Reise

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    Hey Phil - Prutser is using an X Challenge wheel in his forks, without modification I believe. I'd expect those bearings to be bigger.
  7. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    HI,

    Glad to hear the R80GS is still working great.

    Yes we can use a billet hub that uses 60/28 bearing's with step down spacer's for your front end to fit the hub using the oem rotor.

    It would be $279 for just the hub.

    Thanks Zach
  8. IheartmyNx

    IheartmyNx Ihave2draft

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    Woody, what manufacturers have a safety bead?

    I recently noticed Motostrano is selling DID bare rims. Do you know if a CRF230M is tubeless?


    My second question is, can a front (3.5") rim be used in a rear? His "rears" are 5" and I can't swing that...

    Sadly I have a rear 16" tire, but it has a cush drive so a rear disc brake is out. I'm gonna use my rear hub... KI$$
  9. koth442

    koth442 Been here awhile

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    Hi Woody,

    I'm interested in building myself a set of 17" wheels for DRZ-125L. I'm very interested in doing the assembly myself as I think it will be a neat project; however I'm a college kid on a tight budget.

    My build plan so far:

    OEM hubs (used OEM seem to be cheaper than RAD or Talon)
    Buchanan SS spokes/Zinc nipples
    Excel rims
    Front: 2.5 x 17"
    Rear: 3.5 x 17"

    Any suggestions or details to be careful of when selecting? For example, making sure the number of spokes are correct per the hub and rim? I am undecided on dimpled or undimpled.

    Thank you in advance

    Leon
  10. basilis_sti

    basilis_sti n00b

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    :wave Hello from Greece. I have a F800GS and would like to change the front with a laced rim (I have the original hub) and placing a 19x2.50 rim.
    I have found some in used condition, but I am not sure how can they be laced with the Bmw hub.
    19x2.50 are from the older F650 (needs painting) and the same dimension is from a Suzuki Freewind or Aprilia Pegaso (these have almost identical color as the 21' Behr rim). What spokes/nipples would I need? is this possible?
    I wish my budget wasnt so low in order to buy a ready wheel from you but...
    Thanking you in advance!
  11. sproot

    sproot Sturdy Adventurer

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    So this is interesting to me, because I have a set of your 19/17 Caponord / Billet wheels on my 950 Adventure, and the rear hub arrived with one of the disk mounting holes out of line (I had to re-drill it to get the bolt in) and now the bearing housings have failed - they appear to have stretched and the bearings now have ~0.5mm of lateral movement. I discovered this when I pulled the bearings thinking they were done, but the bearings were actually fine, it was the housings that were shot. I have some crappy camera phone pics but they don't show much, I was in a hurry - needed the bike - so I took a few snaps and glued the new bearings in (loctite 638 I think).

    This is obviously going to become an issue when the new bearings fail, because I won't be able to get them out. They're about 4 or 5 years old, so well out of warranty, so my question is: Can I replace the Billet with an OEM hub? Are the spoke mounts identical? I'm in the UK so I don't want to return the wheel to you, I can get it rebuilt here for less than the shipping will cost.

    If they're not the same, do you have a spoke kit to lace the Capo 17" rear to an OEM hub, and will my local wheel builder be able to replicate your superlace? I have zero complaints about the wheels, in 5 years and 30k miles I've never so much as had to tighten a spoke.
  12. woody's wheel works

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    There is no exact science to what rims have safety beads and what rims do not. Most often rims that are 2.50" or wider have a safety bead, but there are exceptions i.e the 18x2.50" DID rim does not, and a 21x2.15" Sun rim does. Many times you can tell by the profile of the rim without removing a tire, but not always the case. The rim manufacturers are not typically installing the safety bead to be able for someone to run tubeless, typically it's for the wider rims, even with tubes, to prevent tire to falling into drop center if bead is broken, but it is a requirement of ours in order to seal a wheel for tubeless.

    There are some DID rims with safety beads, but not always. The DID Supermoto rims that are 17x3.50, 17x4.25, or 17x5.00" have a safety bead.

    The stock wheels for the CRF230M are not tubeless. You may be able to seal them for tubeless, but would want to confirm they have a safety bead. I don't have specs on the CRF230M front rim, but the rear rim is a 3.50" rim, the front tire is 110/70-17, which usually means about a 2.50" front rim. If you have the bike you can look on the side of the rim or area right next to the nipples and see a stamp with the size of the rim. It is likely that minimally the rear rim has a safety bead on the rim. It is possible that the front rim has it. Only way to confirm absolutely would be to remove the tire.

    You can sometimes use a 17x3.50" front rim on a rear depending on how wide the rear hub is, how the front rim is drilled, lace pattern for the rear hub, will likely need to angle/drill the holes out and countersink for the rear hub, and likely need larger nipples than ones provided. Ideally you would purchase a 17x3.50" rim already drilled for the front hub, but there are very few and almost none that are not custom at this time. Foresee this being more of a possibility in the future as dual sport market grows. Obviously we can get you one, but it would be custom.

    Hope that was not too confusing and feel free to ask for any clarification.

    Thanks,
    Chris

  13. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Sounds like a fun project. If you are doing yourself and want easy build, then best bet would be to buy the parts you specified from Buchanan's or through us at same price. Mainly because those rim sizes will be difficult to find with correct drilling Rims will be punched properly, spoke lengths will be correct(although if ordering through them ask that they not be too long so don't have to grind the spokes once trued), and nipples correct size.

    May not be the "least" expensive on the front end, but will save time and energy in the long run.

    Just count the number of spokes on your hub and you'll know how many holes you need. If the rims are available in dimpled then recommend dimpled rims.

    Contact us if you need us to get for you or contact Buchanan's and good luck with your project either way.

    Thanks,
    Chris

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    You should be able to make the 19x2.50" rim off of the F650GS work with some modifications to the spoke holes. You will need custom spokes and nipples, which you may be able to obtain in Europe from companies like Alpina, Devon rim, or Central Wheel. Otherwise we could likely figure out and get a spoke set to you. Spoke sets are about $100 per wheel.

    The quality of the F650GS Behr rim is not that good for much off-road(but likely will do less with 19" front) and better off, increasing the size of the nipple as they are quite small for a F800GS, which will require some drilling to the rim.

    Don't know as much about the Freewind, but looks like can make it work and the nipples look larger and looks like Excel rim, which usually Suzuki uses on their stock wheels.

    Don't know much about the Pegoso, but Alpina likely made the spokes, and rim is likely a Behr or DID rim. Also uses smaller spokes and nipples and hub design very similar to the BMW F650 as an aside.

    Suzuki Freewind will likely require least amount of drilling because F800 & Freewind hub appear to be more similar, but likely could make others work.

    Hope that gets you going in right direction and feel free to ask for clarification.

    Thanks,
    Chris


  15. koth442

    koth442 Been here awhile

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    Thank you for the response. If I do follow through with this project, I will definitely be in contact with you to set up a purchase.

    Leon
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    Hi,

    Great to hear about the wheel holding true this long, bearing's and disc hole is not acceptable.

    Unfortunately like woody said we don't have all the QC control and sometimes it get's past us too.

    The best thing to do is get a new RAD billet hub as the oem hub would need new spokes, and the newer Machinist has tidied up the spec's, we do still re-grease the bearing's to ensure a longer life as well.

    If you want to email us at woodyswheelworks@gmail.com we can get some parts' for you.

    Thanks Zach
  17. basilis_sti

    basilis_sti n00b

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    Thank you very much for your answer! :clap




  18. xaman

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    This was my question as well, but I just sent an email regarding some rear wheel options also. :clap
  19. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 500 Ft.

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    I have a set of your sealed F800GS wheels. What's the concise advice I give to the self-assured tire jockey at the motorcycle shop along the road when having a tire change? Keep in mind that he'll be sure he knows everything.

    Fred
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Here's my advice for anyone changing sealed for tubeless wheels whether mine or anyone elses:

    1,be care-full ie BE FULL OF CARE....here' s how...

    2,, use plenty of lube for removing /replacing the tire....lube let's the tire slip n slide to give ya the slack not to ruin the sealants.

    3,, be care-full where ya place the tire irons so that ya do not gouge /rip the sealant

    that should do it..:deal
    good luck

    and happy fathers day to all

    woody