Ask Woody About Your Wheels

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by woody's wheel works, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. DoYouLikeItHere

    DoYouLikeItHere n00b

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    I joined up just so I can post this, but it looks like an awesome site ! Glad I found it !!

    I would like to run the fat 18 on the front of my 1996 Gen 1 KLR 650.
    Can I purchase a set of spokes and nipples, and a used 18x2.15 rim from you?
    I'm on a budget so I'm really hopeful you can find a used rim for me that will work for me on my budget.

    Looks like your having a clearance on used rims ?? Hows the new place?

    Anyways, I will lace it all to my own Gen 1 KLR front hub at home anr run tubes in the tires.

    Thanks a bunch !
    Mike
  2. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    will check for ya..so many guys have asked the same thing.....
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  3. DoYouLikeItHere

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    Thanks Woody, Jus Holler !!
  4. Jim K in PA

    Jim K in PA Long timer

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    Hey Woody. I have a question fer ya! First time posting in this enormous thread. I hope I don't get lost or beat up . . . :eek1

    Some background: I have a new to me sidecar rig based on a 1975 R90S (link to pics of it in my signature). The rig was built approximately 20 years ago (c.1984 based on the components). It was very well built, and (most relevant to this post) included conversion from 18"/19" wheels to 15" car wheels with 125R15 car tires. The chair is a relatively new one (c.2012) built by Claude Stanley (CSM)/Freedom Side Cars with a 15" disk wheel.

    My first question relates to the rear wheel primarily. The lacing of the 15" wheel to the original drum brake hub has resulted in two potential anomalies, as I look at it; Spokes that don't look straight on one side; and the hub is laced differently on each side. Is this a problem? There are no broken spokes, and it sees to run true, but I have not measured runout.

    Here are a couple of pictures to start things off. If you would prefer I email you directly, just respond here or via PM saying so.


    Thanks.


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  5. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    hi Jim,,your crap detector is working just fine...

    IMHO,
    1,,,you are riding a ticking bomb....wheels built with rims punched for a smaller diameter hub as is your case and forced to a larger diameter hub end up looking just like yours,,,,,the first place they start cracking is at juncture of nipple and spoke,,,,as they relax ,,they'll start to loosen because the shortest distance between two points is a straight line...in your set-up there is too big a deviation between the way the rim was drilled/punched and the optimal angle...

    2,,the business of having one side X1 and the other X2 is of no concern,,,a common solution used by wheel-smiths to convert/adapt rims/hubs having different indexing ie either euro or jap....Notice the X2 pattern has a bigger kink than the X1...because the angles change more on X2 than X1

    Rx = get the holes re-angled/relieved on rim ,,get properly drilled rim

    IMHO you are ready for a nice re-build anyway...beadblast and seal hubs some nice beefier SS spokes and nipples,,,beadblast and powdercoat rim after angle correction.etc etc...

    FYI we do all thee services hoping up sidecar wheels...got lot's of kudos from sidecar racers...building bullet-proof wheels for them:wink:

    holler
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  6. Jim K in PA

    Jim K in PA Long timer

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    Thanks for the quick reply Woody.

    Given the rust on the spokes & nipples (as well as the rim), replacement with SS hardware makes sense. One of the guys in the Hacks section here also noted that it looks like the nipples are bottomed out on the spokes (no exposed threads left).

    I would also like to use rims that have the valve stem pointing inward toward the hub like the original wheels. The front valve stem actually hits the left caliper without a rednecked piece of wire solution to pull it out of the way.

    While we're wishing, running tubeless would be nice. That would allow me to run 90 degree valve stems.

    I also want to replace the fugly disk sidecar wheel with a matching spoked wheel. I have another front hub to use for the conversion, I just have to get an adapter machined for the trailer hub mount.

    I will give you a call later this season. Over the winter I may just have you do all three wheels and get this rig done right.

    Thanks again.




  7. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    we listen to what you think you want and recommend what we think ya need:wink:
    and you'll walk away much happier in the long run:deal
    holler when you are ready...

    :freaky
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  8. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    Wondering if you have any LC4 rear hubs or complete wheels I could buy for putting a cush hub on the 450EXC or if I have to go the RAD hubs route?
  9. E-Bum

    E-Bum Been here awhile

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    Hey Woody, wondering if you guys have any idea on timeline for the Africa Twin hubs I sent in to get laced to the Excels that I believe have arrived?

    Thanks.
  10. woody's wheel works

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    hi,,am checking on that as i write...
    will report back shortly,,

    do you want rock solid wheels we can upgrade while you are at it..
    now's the time to do that....

    OBTW is this something you want to tackle yourself??

    ANSWER: just checked with my troops...we can build any wheel /size you want,,have orange and black RAD hubs in stock....holler when you are ready

    woody
  11. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    Got any Husqvarna SM610 wheels in black with a RAD cush hub complete and in stock?
  12. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    hi Baroquenride...
    will check on that for ya...be patient we've got some of our crew out with broken bones etc...
    woody


    Update, we can build you anything that you want, but don't have any whee's prebuilt and need to order hub's for a set.
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    We have the spokes on order and they should be ready to ship next week, we'll update you asap.

    Thanks
  14. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    What is the current turnaround time for standard wheel truing/light dent removal?
  15. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Our turn around right now is about 2-4 days, depending on the project.

    Thanks
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  17. bmwgo

    bmwgo I love moto's

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    I want to run anakee 3 tires on my 2013 R1200GSA 90th anniversary model. This is not a water cooled GSA model. My question is about the sizes I'd like. I want to run a 120 front and the 170 rear. Is the 170 too large for for this model?

    Also I'd like another set of wheels to run off-road tires. What year model spoke wheels fit the 2013 model. I'll be buying these in the used market.

    Thank you
  18. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    These tires are too wide for your stock rims. You need at least a 3" front rim for the 120 tire and at least a 4.5" rim for the 170 tire. Your stock Oil cooled rims are 19x2.5" & 17x4.00" respectively.

    All R12GS or GSA Oil cooled wheels will fit on all R12GS or GSA Oil cooled motorcycles. Spoked or Cast. Some early model front spoked wheels had different rotor mounting surfaces on the front, so may require different rotor mounting hardware.

    Thanks for your questions,
    Chris

    PS..woody himself chiming in....FYI,,,,the tire sizes you are talking about can be fitted on your bike,,,like Chris mentioned your OEM rims were meant for 110/80x19 front and 150/70x17 rear tires
    ya can check lot's of data by perusing Max BMW's great on line parts fiche:

    http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/PartsFiche.aspx

    now go to this link on our www.woodyswheelworks.com website for a tire chart that gives the optimal tire sizes and rim widths necessary for the tire manufacturer's recommendations :

    http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/rim_width_tire_size_chart.html

    notice that the aspect ratio of the tire you choose will determine how wide a rim ya need to use that tire,,simply said the lower the aspect ratio ,,,,the wider a rim you need for it.....

    regarding what wheels fit ???? all 1200 GS/GSA
    If you tell me how hard and where ya want to use those off road wheels...i can recommend what wheels will work optimally for you
    woody
  19. Mr. Fisherman

    Mr. Fisherman PROUD 2B Riff Raff!

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    Woody, I am considering purchasing a Yamaha 1200 Super Tenere. I am concerned about the way they lace up the wheels with the 90 degree bend in the spokes.
    Has this been an issue and should I be concerned about it?

    What would the fix be and what would it cost?
  20. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    you're right about your concerns...the two major issues with these IMHO are:

    1,,,the rather loose fit on the spoke angle caused by too long a throat length as well as paltry spoke diameter....allows the wheels to loose tension prematurely under rough n tuff riding conditions.

    2,,the constant corrosion/rusting of the zinc coated spokes

    Rx: our SS spoke and nipple Superlace kit circa $125 front $135 rear,,,spoke kit install and true $111

    we can also up-grade the wheels ie 21''front//17-18'' rear for more dirt oriented riding like this:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759952&page=19

    http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg634/cams13666/DSC_5292.jpg

    :freaky
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