Ask Woody About Your Wheels

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by woody's wheel works, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. Suncoast

    Suncoast Been here awhile

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    Hi Woody, I've got an 01 KLR 650 with a ding in the front rim, the rim lip is probably dented outwards close to 1cm, I'd ship it to you for repair but being in Canada the shipping costs and customs hassle would suck, some people have said I should be able to heat the ding spot and then hammer it out with a deadblow hammer against a template cut from 3/4" plywood, I'm not sure if that will work or not. If it doesn't I'd just like to lace in another stock rim, will any 21 X 1.60 34 hole rim work? I've seen a lot of rims for sale for klx 250 and klx 650's they probably don't have the DOT designation other than that is there any difference? Do you sell the used stock rims that you've taken off for super motard conversions. I've laced up a few mountain bike rims over the years but never tackled a motorcycle rim. Any advice? Kawasaki wants 3-400.00 just for a stock rim :eek1
  2. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    we should have plenty of rims that will work,,i'll have zach look,,circa $80-120 new double sig goes for $153 in silver with drilling for your oem spokes..
    will keep ya posted...


    updated 6/4/2010

    looked and we currently do not have any good used rims that will fit your bike. Not any 1.60x21-36H rim will work. You will need one that has 0.280" nipple holes and a Jap lace pattern(most rims of this size have a Jap lace pattern).

    You should be able to find a local motorcycle shop that can repair your wheel. We charge $60-100 per wheel to fix similar dings.

    We will let you know if we find a good used rim and have a great weekend.

    woody
  3. Pago Cruiser

    Pago Cruiser Been here awhile

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    Hi Woody,

    I've got an 09 HD XR1200 with cast wheels - 17 x 5.5 rear, 18x3.5 front. I'm setting this up as a dual sport tug with a Ural. :eek1
    Nothing extreme, but from freeways to fireroads to remote camping. But 70-75 mph will be required.

    I can get a 18x3.5 rear from Storz ( I believe they use Sun rims with an HD hub) but I am concerned about shredding rear tires. Was planning to use TKC 80 in 140/18 size front and rear.

    Couple questions:

    1. The 140/18 will fit on both the 3.5" and the 4.25" width rims. More "cushion" (and height) using the 3.5", but more surface contact using the 4.25". I am that thinking that the more contact patch (for the hack) would be best. Any thoughts?

    2. I have a couple other hacks, and tires are a bugger. Thinking of maybe a car tire all the way around? Saw a thread on the site about lace-up rims for car tires. Any thoughts? Note that this would not be used for a solo bike; only the hack tug and chair.

    Thanks,

    Mitch
  4. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Mitch --

    Like you said the narrower rim will give you more cushion, which allows the tire to get better traction on harder pack stuff. The wider rim will give you less cushion and give you better traction on softer, sand, etc. type stuff.

    So, up to you based on where you plan on riding.

    In terms of car tire/wheel conversions, we are not the experts. I would get in contact with someone who has done it and get feedback from them. The safety bead on a motorcycle tire is going to be smaller than for an auto tire, so it's not meant to work, but some people do it. Certainly cost savings on the tire and will last you longer. Much more difficult to turn though. Try to get more info, and can always try it. Always have a motorcycle tire as back-up.

    We can build this wheel for you and probably save you $80-200 per wheel to build it.

    Are you referencing these wheels?: http://www.storzperf.com/np_XR1200wheel.html

    They use Excel rims, stainless spokes, stainless nipples and stock billet hubs, which we could do the same.

    Let us know, as always you can e-mail or call.



  5. MJS

    MJS Long timer

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    Hi Woody,

    I want to send you my wheels from 05 R12GS. They need to be straightened and trued. I was thinking of converting the front to a 21" BMW tubeless hoop. (I'd use the 19 on my HP2 SM wheel set - but that's a different project).

    Here's the question. I'm thinking of getting an 2010 GSA next year. I believe the front wheels are not directly interchangable. Looking at the MAX parts catalog, it appears the hub is the same and only the brake discs are different. Do you have any experience / knowledge about this? I don't want to spend the $ on the 21" rim if I can't move it to the new bike.

    PS: It was good to see you at the ARC event. I was the guy on the HP2 parked next to Del's trailer.

    Thanks,
  6. ginslung

    ginslung It'll take.

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    Just wanted to throw out a big thanks to the staff at Woody's for fixing up the front wheel on my 950.

    Wheel is true, rotors straightened (saving me a wad of money), new sneaker put on and the result is one happy, wobble and shake free inmate.

    Well done and thanks! :clap
  7. ktm950se

    ktm950se Banned

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    As many other AVDers seem interested in this too, were you able to find out anything?

    Sincerely,

    ktm950se
  8. Suncoast

    Suncoast Been here awhile

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    Thanks Woody, Let me know.
    Cheers Bert
  9. techforlife

    techforlife CDI REPAIR

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    Woody......this probably has been asked 100 times...but can a cush drive setup be made for an XR650L,,,,,,,,93-2010 all use the same wheel,,but not cush from the factory..i`d like the stock rim width with possible SS spokes and Super lace with silver OE look on hubs and rims.......any idea on cost would be appreciated..

    Honda should have done this in the first place,cheap buggers:lol3 :lol3


    Thanks.

    Brian
  10. Holden

    Holden Long timer

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    Big thanks to Woodys Wheels for helping me out with a tire change while on my cross country tour.


    GREAT SHOP!
  11. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Mark --

    These wheels will be interchangeable. As you said the hub part #'s match. The only difference between the GS and GS Adv is that the GS has a silver rim and the GS Adv has a black rim. There were some 2005 hubs that had smaller mounting brackets on the front disc, but the off-sets, rotor sizes, etc. are all the same and can be interchanged. This is the case for all of the R12GS and R12GS Adv's.

    Not a problem to straighten & true or replace with BMW tubeless 21". If you plan on using it on the R12GS Adv you may want to go with a black rim as the R12GS Adv has black rims stock. We stock these rims, so turnaround is quick.

    Let us know what you would like to do, call or e-mail us to get quote.

    Thanks


  12. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Thank you for all of the kind words, we are here to improve your experience, when it comes to your wheels.

    We are working on a new website that will provide a similar experience to the type of wheel work we have produced over the past 35 years.

    We are in need of some hi-res action shots of people using our wheels. So send us your hi-res shots and if we use it on the website, we will send you a hat and/or t-shirt. We will provide some other type of goodies, if you already have a shirt or hat.

    E-mail your photos to: woodyswheelworks@gmail.com

    Thanks,
    Woody's Wheel Works
  13. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    thanks to gadget boy's heads-up and link regarding the above news...

    i followed up on it and here's the verdict;

    Hooray,,another version of samo samo tubeless technology taken straight from the 30 year old tubeless rear wheel of Alpina and other trials machines.....

    essentially a rim with flange/s extruded into it from whih spokes are threaded and head toward the hub to be tightened/trued via nipples in the hub...Akront alled it ''con nuervio'',,,honda used the same flanged rim concept on their 'comcast ' tubeless wheels in the early '80s,,,'cept Honda used sheet metal spokes riveted to both sides of the flange and then bolted to the hub.

    in this case what is interesting is Yamaha's solution to creating the necessary triangulation in the front rim.....when you have dual dis brakes and the caliper pots are on the large side you can get by with this in ast wheels ,,,unfortunately,,,spoke wheels work better when you have wider triangels..visualize a radio antenna with supporting guy wires not far from the base ,,,it wouldn't be stable,,so ya have to move em further out,,same for the wheel...

    what yamaha did was add an extra flange in the front rim so that they ould then X-lace the spokes from left flange of rim to right flange of hub and vice versa,,,same principle as BMW's process...voila it should get the job done:thumb

    and it looks like this:

    South Africa had the media launch of the new XT1200Z Super Ténéré earlier this week. They invited me along as a representative of our local Adventure Forum, the Wilddogs.

    This is an unprecedented step for any manufacturer, it says a lot about their confidence in the product.

    Keep in mind here that I am not a journalist and will not attend any further launches, so I am free to give my opinion be it good or bad. In fact, quoting from the original invite “he/she must be prepared to write an objective as possible ride impression on the forum for the benefit of the forum members”.

    Well, I'll do just that. Let's get to it.

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but beauty was not the first thing I thought of when I saw the bikes lined up. From the pictures I also got the impression that it is a huge bike, but in the flesh, it did not look so daunting.

    Some of the design that grates on the eye is the exhaust and the plastic heatshield that covers it.

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    If I had one of these I would swop that exhaust can out for something more streamlined asap. Currently there are no after market cans available, because we are only the second country to launch the Super Ten. The USA do not even know yet whether they will be getting the Super Ten.



    Positioning

    With a 1200 twin motor, the Super Ten joins the ranks in the Big Traillie class. With the KTM 990 leading the pack in the sporting traillies and the GS Adventure in a class of it's own in the super tanker division, the Super Ten is aimed squarely at the BMW R1200GS, the king of the touring traillies.

    When I originally bought my GS the main motivating factors for me was 1- tubeless and 2- shaft drive.

    Now both the GS and the Super Ten share these features as well as more;
     1200 twin cylinder engine
     shaft drive
     tubeless spoked rims
     ABS
     similar suspension travel
     same wheel sizes.



    Details

    Browsing around the bike, checking out the details, it's immediately clear that Yamaha used the GS as a benchmark and tried to improve on it.

    The Super Ten comes with wide pegs and removable rubber inserts standard. That's how it should be, if you make a bike that is going to be applied off sealed roads, then it should have wide pegs to stand on.

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    The shaft drive have the more conventional double sided swingarm, with the control arm at the top, out of harms way.

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    This allows for carrier bearings to be fitted both sides of the wheel. I expect this design to be more reliable than BMW's single sided swingarm. On a single sided swingarm the bearing has to deal not only with the normal stresses but also the directional stress, by having to keep the wheel straight. Time will tell I suppose.

    The tubeless, spoked rim is designed differently to the BM's. Even the front and rear is different to each other.

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    holler if ya want me to edit the guys report,,sorry,,am on a strange lap-top and am having difficulty cutting and pasting stuff,,i'll be back in denver 18th,,gotta celebrate my granddaughters 7th b-day,,woody
  14. pennswoodsed

    pennswoodsed lizards,bugs and me

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    Is it possible to get a spoke set for an 1989 ktm exc hub for a 19x2.15 excel rim ? What measurements are needed ?
    Thanks,Ed Flanagan
  15. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    Would not be a problem to provide you or anyone with a spoke set. Single gauge SS spokes and Zartan(nickel plated) nipples are typically just $85/set. Stainless nipples add about $20 to the price.

    We would need to know the following:

    Is this for a front or rear hub? What size nipple holes does the Excel rim have(usually, 0.280", 0.300", or 0.320")? Was the rim custom drilled or is it for a rear Moto-cross hub? Do you just want stock size spokes?

    If you want to place an order or want to ask further questions, feel free to e-mail us directly at: woodyswheelworks@gmail.com.

    Thanks

  16. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    We continue to pursue perfectly tubeless wheels for motorcycles, especially for Dual Sport motorcycles. At this time, there is still nothing available. As posted below, Yamaha is reverting back to an old idea, but would not be applicable to other motorcycles.

    We will keep ya posted on any new developments. Feel free to inquire and provide us feedback on how much you want it for your bike. Allows us to show the demand for such a product and will help drive innovation.

    Thanks

  17. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    They are available. There are a couple different options, all of these would be 6061 billet aluminum available in any color for the same price.

    On the front, there is the RAD hex hub with speedo, cost: $249 or RAD Econo or Eagle hub for $199 or $249 respectively.

    For the rear, there are non-cush rear's(only recommended for off-road use) RAD Econo or Eagle for $249 and $299 respectively or RAD cush drive hub with or without the sprocket carrier, with is $499, without is $299 and would adapt to your stock sprocket carrier.

    Superlace and True is $99/wheel
    Excel Silver 1.60x21-36H is $138.
    Excel Silver 2.15x18-36H is $155.
    SS Spokes & SS Nipples are $125/set.

    Let us know what you would like us to do, you can e-mail us directly at woodyswheelworks@gmail.com to get full quote or to ask any further questions.

    Thanks

    PS. At least Honda put a cush drive on these wheels. Their mistake was the pitiful hub design and size of spokes and nipples they have on the front and rear.
  18. eddyturn

    eddyturn Wannabe

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    Hell yes, I want tubless spoked wheels for my 800GS. That day will come soon I hope.



  19. 10till10

    10till10 Adventurer

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    hello. as above, I just bought an 06 950sm. I have your canyon setup for the 05 950adv. I would like to fit these wheels on my 950sm. obviously not a direct fit. what are my options? I have the orange radd hubs, x laced, 19"f 17"r. thank you, and your wheels have no equal.
  20. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    i'd love to have a set for my 990A....:D