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  1. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    [Do you repair hubs that have been damaged by spun bearings? I have obtained a rear wheel that has internal hub damage. It would require machining the hole and putting in an appropriate sleeve. Is this something that you could do? I would loke to be able to go back to the original style wheels instead of my current Lester wheels
    [Wayne Johnson]

    hi wayne,,we have several ways of dealing with them,,,i also build a ball bearing conversion kit,,, it's popular because you eliminate all the drudgery and cost of the bmw tapered bearings and their set-up,,,can machine brake surfaces,,,you name it ,,,we do or have done it,,also have a good supply of serviceable used stuff,,,some of the work requires wheel disassembly such as turning your brake drum,,,just tell me your $$$parameters and we'll get ya the most bang for your dollar...woody
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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    My name is J.R. I own a business here in Los Angeles called Angel City Cycle, I was wondering if I could get some pointers on the early parts of wheel lacing. I'm talking about your recommendation for when I start to tighten spokes so as not to create more work by over tightening too soon. I've been building wheels for a long time but I just started to get back to offering it for my customers and I want to do the best job possible. I have a truing stand and a spoke torque wrench (that only goes to 50), I am a BMW shop, that's all I work on, I will send the tubeless stuff to you.

    hey there J.R. and the rest of you wheelsmiths,,here's a few tips,,,

    1,,after assembly,,i carefully and evenly bring nipples down on the threads,,,,while making sure the rim is properly positioned left and right,,,ie the offset,,,most bmw rims are centered between the hub flanges

    2,,i observe the radial and lateral runout and finger tighten a few spokes so that the rim is now located and running true

    3,, i finger tighten the rest of the nipples,,now the rim should still be where you want it,,,any adjustment from this point on i loosen first then tighten

    4,, i then start snugging all the v spokes a few turns equally around the wheel clockwise from a starting point,,say at the valve stem hole [that should be a v],,followed by doing the x spokes in the opposite direction....ie i'm sucking the rim in toward the hub equally in all directions,,,i redo this several times,,,

    5,, the last thing i do is do the final truing,,,remembering to loosen then tighten

    6,,last but not least,,,of course JR if as you said ya ''want the best job possible'' send em to me for a SUPERLACE and be done with it:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    that's all there's to it,,,oh make sure all the spokes are doing the same amount of work,,,you can always tell the sandbaggin ones,,,,as well as those that feel like high strung overachievers,,,

    good luck,,:1drink ,,,,woody
  3. bullfrog

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    I need to thank Woody and Chris for sending me the proper parts to lace up my new 18" front wheel....
    I just lowered the klr off of the lift and I don't have time to get it muddy....
    Here's a couple of pics....

    Thanks again, guys...

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  4. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    just a quick personal apology Bullfrog,,,was in a hurry and sent ya the bag of spokes that was supposed to return to the bin,,,your bag of 36 ea was in the bin,,,ooops,,i too am human,,,

    BTW,,looks real good,,,just out of curiosity,,were the spokes the right length???,,ie no threads showing outside the nipple and about 1/8'' in from end of nipple,,,just so i can log it in my reference book.

    holler n thanks,,your wheel looks grea,,now get it muddy and tell us how well it workst:1drink :clap :beer

    notice how little weight you needed because of properly positioning an extra rim lock:thumb
  5. bullfrog

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    hey woody,

    as far as spoke length goes...
    on the speedo drive side of the hub (not the brake side), the inboard row of 9 spokes were a wee bit short but there is only bit of thread visible below the nipple...
    i hope that makes sense???
    not being a wheel professional, i am not sure of the proper lingo to use...
    anyway, i am not anticipating any trouble or anything....
    just info for the next guy...

    i sure am glad i decided to run 2 rimlocks on each wheel....
    sure makes balancing a lot easier!!!

    i am looking forward to getting it muddy, but the real test will be in hitting the sand dunes....

    thanks again.
  6. Lunatic

    Lunatic Dan Keyhoety

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    Have any recomendations for a DR 650 that will be used for touring in South America ? Are the stock wheels adaquate ?
  7. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    lunatic,,,you'll be fine if...IF yu keep your spokes well tensioned,,,don't try to motocross it,,,drive like the average rider that that bike was designed for,,so no need to pretend you are going from paris to dakar in the race...or are in a competetion,,,and you should be just fine,,,

    hey Dr. Frazier has riddnaround the world several times on stock bikes,,klr-650,,,beemers...so it is doable,,,common sense,,a handy commodity to pack along your ride:thumb :jump
  8. KTMRyder

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    Woody, those are some nice looking hubs for the KTM's!

    I have a 2007 450 EXC that I will ride in the woods and dualsport it also.

    If I keep the stock rear wheel for dirt riding how much would it cost to lace up a new black rim with the cush drive hub so I can use it for dualsport use?
    I take that it would just drop right in as long as I had another brake rotor? would I need to buy any spacers?
  9. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    i believe the rear hub is circa $300,,the rest of the prices are in KTM section of www.woodyswheelworks.com

    the new billet cush drive sprocket carrier is about $150,,,,it is optional ,,OR you can use your oem unit with the 6 rubber dampeners,,we have any or all of the above

    YES:thumb :thumb :thumb this cush drive fits in any KTM dirtbike ,,no additional spacers needed:thumb

    FYI,,,$$$$ depends on brand and size rims,,,the spokes,,,and type of lace we do,,,, you pick and choose what you want or call us toll free for advice
  10. woodsrider

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    KTMRyder:

    My new EXC wheels are about to be built. I opted for black with the black custom sprocket carrier. I'm getting an extra sprocket and rotors so I can have two sets of EXC wheels. The new hubs look great!

    woodsy
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    another e-mail...and reply

    [quote mr.xyz]WOODY
    BOUT HOW MUCH ..sorry:D to seal my front & rear wheels? ,,,,,,,

    $70 a piece if they fall within my criteria,,ie rims must have safety beads for starters


    ,,,,,are there big safety issues with doing so on a tube type rim?
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    mr xyz,,,YES!!!!! there are big safety issues,,,tubeless rims are designed to very specific standards in cahoots with the tire manufacturers and their engineers/designers needs.

    FYI,,,when you say 'tube-type rim' it could be ambiguous,,reason being ,,in the old days TT meant tube type both for rim and the tire ,,,TL meant tubeless for rim and tire,,,,you can use a TL rim and punch/drill it for spokes and hence use a tube and then possibly seal it and make a tubeless wheel,,,WHY????? because ALL TL rims that i know of come with a safety bead.
  12. bullfrog

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    well weather wouldn't permit me to head down the highway to the sand dunes....

    so i had to stick around the house and play in the snow...

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    sure am lovin' my new front wheel!!!!
  13. InfoManiac

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    I can't believe no one has asked this, and maybe I missed something, but I searched. Can you lace up a set of wheels to fit the Suzuki DL1000? If so, what would be the aproximate cost?

    I am assuming that the hardest part would be to find a suitable hub that would fit the bike, and have the proper brake rotor bolt patterns.

    I was just wondering, as I have been taking the Strom off-road, and although the cast wheels hold up pretty well, there is a dent in my front rim after riding some rocky terrain.
  14. woody's wheel works

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    Jknowlwedge my man,,the title to this reply says it all...i can and have built some of the craziest conversions imaginable,,,however,,...i cannot tap into the vast pool of stuff done already until i have the wheels and or exact specs of the motorcycles you'd like wire wheels for,,,,i hate having to re-invent it all the time when something may already have been done similar to what ya have

    tis almost 2 years since i heard the first grumblings about v-strom riders wanting wire wheels perhaps even a 21 for the front,,,yet no one has sent me any to match up,,,

    remember i like building wheels as close to interchangeable as possible..ie just slip em into your bike like the oem ones is my ideal...who's gonna send me the data or the wheels:dunno :dunno :dunno

    as for straightening your mag,,,,no problem:thumb
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    woodsrider, can you show me some pics and thoughts of the rear when you get it?
    I think I will have Woody do the same for me before I head to Moab in April.
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    JAYZONI Back to the KLR

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    Loving Bullfrogs new front wheel:clap .. I myself have an 06 KLR 650 and would like a $$$price$$$ on the same rim... Thanks JAY! :ear :1drink
  17. InfoManiac

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    I am currently looking for an extra set of wheels, so that I can have a set with TKCs, and a set with More street oriented adventure tires. If I find a second set, I will happily send you the ones I have on there now, so that you can work some wired wheels up (I'd love a 21" / 18" combination), and straighten out my front, as long as the turn around isn't gonna be too terribly long. :thumb:thumb

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    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    like i said i just need to get all the dimensions,,so send the wheels complete with spacers,discs etc,,,careful photos would do with accurate measurements,,all of thatplus the straightening should only take a day or two and they'll be haeding back your way,,it's only the first set up that takes a bit of time,,,once i've done one all the rest of the v-stromers will have their cake way faster...:wink:

    when i have the entire assy then i'll know things like can we recycle the discs on to the new wheels or can i find a complete wheel with discs but have the discs although different still be the same diameter and thickness and have the correct offset/spacing...sometimes the brake calipers interfere,,,,

    BWOE when we just did the first 21'' wire wheels for bmw 110-1150GS they had a slight .040'' clearance problem with the lower corner of the calipers,,,stuff like that comes up,,,,if there is a concern we'd need to note the closest spot of the caliper to your mag's spokes,,,measure the distance between it and just where that diameter is on your mag then i can figure out if there is enough clearance,,,,and on and on

    get one of your local v-strom buddies to stop in at the wheel works for an hour and i'll be able to get all the measurements and data i need ,,,save you all some money in the process,,
  19. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    bullfrog did the work himself ie lace n true and ordered up a bunch of new and used stuff i had around...it was circa $200 rim ,spokes,,rim locks

    add a custom lace n true for only $80,,,SUPERLACE is just $99 with one year warranty against wheel falling apart

    FYI,,,all new components above would be circa $300 + labor
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    ME TOO!!!!!

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    Thanks again Woody!!!