ATGATT takes the fun out of riding?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by whitetiger7654, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. Hatch

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    Thats a really good point! I know all about the boring ass straight road commute rides in traffic that is trying to kill you. But its still worth it!:ricky

    ha, or like the red bandana - if you see it, you're already dead!
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  2. mugwump

    mugwump Been here awhile

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    When I was young I was lucky enough to crash, more than once, without all the cool gear that is available. I now find the time to gear up. Why? Like I said I was lucky and only had to learn about debridement. Some of my friend were far less fortunate.

    It's a personal choice now as far as I'm concerned. However I would ask you to take the car whenever you don't feel like dressing up. At least make that a rule.
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  3. ADVCoop

    ADVCoop Been here awhile

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    I know I am guilty of not always wearing my riding pants or moto boots when i commute, but I always wear a helmet/jacket/gloves/work style boots. I commute to school (I am a non-tradtional student) and have no where at school to store gear so as it as I have to carry my jacket around all day along with my books.
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  4. *Gravy*

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    Not yet and I hope I never do.:norton
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  5. Willbilly

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    I used to, but after just a short time of riding with the increased confidence ATTGAT gives me I can't go without it. I ran my dad's cruiser down the road the other day for a test ride. I had caged it to his place so I had no gear. The ride was so slow and tedious without gear that it was utterly unenjoyable. Maybe it's just me, but I find riding a less expensive bike closer to it's and my limits a lot more fun. Wearing all the gear and riding secluded areas makes this posible. (for me at least)
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  6. SeaBass

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    There's nothing like being ATGATT when you go down! iIwent down semi hard 2x while chasing a bunch of thumpers and 2 strokes on my 950ADV offroad in the Catskills and basically just bounced up off the ground, picked up my bike and continued on without so much as a bruise.
    Plus you are fully armored for physical combat (unless you're going to catch a round) should the need arise.
    I went down at 50mph on a Honda MB5 in a t shirt and jeans when i was 16 and still carry the scars 25 yrs later. Been ATGATT ever since!
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  7. TomTom63

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    I commute 2-3 times per week to the office (17miles) year around, never had a second thought about NOT putting on ATGATT...
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  8. worgoose

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    Chicks dig scars:smile6
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  9. 3power

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    I understand the point of the OP. It's like sex with a condom - you know it would be more fun and feel better without, but it's just not as safe.
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  10. Voidrider

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    There are times where I am in a hurry, I am already late, the kids are milling around and it is just a madhouse. I just need to get OUT. So I end up driving to the store or whatever. So yeah, sometimes I pitch the ride because gearing up can be a bother.

    BUT, riding is something I enjoy, and I wouldn't ride without my gear anymore than an astronaut would take a spacewalk without a suit, or a fighter pilot would get in his plane without a g-suit. Its just the right thing to wear.

    When life isn't a hurry, I like gearing up. It reminds me of putting on clothing in a dojo for martial arts practice. Its a time for meditation and consideration. Its a ritual that puts me into a different mind-set. Off come the clothes of the everyday, the father, the husband, let the mind release the worries of the day. Put on the gi, become the warrior who is aware of everything and lets no detail slip by. Deep drink of relaxing and calmness. And then, as another poster comment, "go kick some ass".:D
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  11. Voidrider

    Voidrider Been here awhile

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    There are times where I am in a hurry, I am already late, the kids are milling around and it is just a madhouse. I just need to get OUT. So I end up driving to the store or whatever. So yeah, sometimes I pitch the ride because gearing up can be a bother.

    BUT, riding is something I enjoy, and I wouldn't ride without my gear anymore than an astronaut would take a spacewalk without a suit, or a fighter pilot would get in his plane without a g-suit. Its just the right thing to wear.

    When life isn't a hurry, I like gearing up. It reminds me of putting on clothing in a dojo for martial arts practice. Its a time for meditation and consideration. Its a ritual that puts me into a different mind-set. Off come the clothes of the everyday, the father, the husband, let the mind release the worries of the day. Put on the gi, become the warrior who is aware of everything and lets no detail slip by. Deep drink of relaxing and calmness. And then, as another poster comment, "go kick some ass".:D
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  12. Ninjak

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    No, but I don't go ATGATT either. I wear jacket, gloves, helmet and some form of boot. But, I don't have riding pants. For some reason, that's the point where it gets annoying to me unless I'm riding off-road.
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  13. C Squared

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    Just had this talk with a buddy out in the shop...
    I gave him shit for his helmut and shorts etc. gear that he shows up in...
    He said that comfort is more important!
    I allways wear gloves and a jacket and boots and helmut!
    leather or kevlar or just jeans for the legs.. Never a t-shirt etc.....

    OK, my buddy and I went to TGIF to have a dinner and drink a couple of years ago from a motel in SD.. We threw our legs over the bikes and drove maybe 1/2 mile without helmut etc. We both commented on how wrong it felt really kinda freaked us out!

    You make your decision and you live with it!

    FYI my wife had a truck left turn in front of her nearly 15 years ago after the driver let me pass.... She was in full leathers and helmut etc...
    Still broke her pelvis in 3 places 4 broken ribs, lazerated liver, collapsed lung, compound fracture of the elbow and severed ulner nerve, crushed wrist etc, etc..... 3 plus months later she was out of the wheel chair!
    She has done 1/2 marathons since:D Great doctors!
    But, without ATGATT she would have been dead or nearly so1
    Well she was nearly so...
    I use her helmut in my classes as a safety prop!

    Hey, worship whatever you want and dress however you want!
    If you don't ride ATGATT your insurance should be 5 times what mine is!
    Pay for the risk/privalage
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  14. 3power

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    You can die with gear, too, you know. I just don't like when people think they can ride riskier because they are geared up.
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  15. arres

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  16. Grreatdog

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    I am not 100% ATTGAT. But I am 100% in gear that goes on and off in a hurry. Since it takes maybe two minutes to pull on what I consider to be the minimum acceptable amount of gear, it doesn't affect my fun in the least. Being concerned about road rash or smacking my head on pavement does affect my ability to relax and have fun.

    So I never ride without a full face helmet, armored jacket, jeans, knee pads, boots and gloves. The knee pads and gloves fit inside my helmet so they aren't a PITA when I get somewhere. The jacket is a hassle in warm weather. But there is just no way around wearing one for me. So I just throw it over the bike and hope nobody wants it or I carry it around.

    So far I have walked away from every crash and never experienced the joy of road rash. I admit that some of that was luck. But then again, you tend to make your own luck. I was geared up every time I went down hard and when I got hit by a car. There is no doubt in my mind that I would be dead without gear. I love to ride but I don't like getting hurt. So no gear = no fun.
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  17. C Squared

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    Yup, the wife came near to death with full gear.
    No part of my post said that I would ride "riskier" with or without gear!

    Of course if you choose to push it a bit gear seems like a smart choice.

    And, it isn't the diein' type crash I worry about. It is the slide down the road for a bit thing.... Somebody takes you to the hospital for some puttin back together or you get up and say damn....now I need to buy new leathers (etc.) and a helmut. :wink:

    Buddy hit a dear going 60 at night (came from behind a row of pines)
    T-boned it it died right there on the road! His bike (totaled) slid another 150 yards and he was another 30+ yards down the road.
    Pretty mush destroyed his leather jacket, chaps, boots, gloves, and helmut.
    He didn't have a scratch on him and broke his collar bone.

    Coulda killed him but didn't. Lookin' at the gear after I don't know where they would have found skin to graft into the places that would have needed it. Not to mention the probable head trauma.

    Both this and my wifes accident were people just riding. Not pushing any limit or drinking etc.

    Gear is cuz ya just don't know when shit may happen.
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  18. vfr700

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    Once and a while I feel the burden of suiting up for battle, but I've lived to enjoy another day in the saddle because of it.
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  19. Gaereth

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    I guess I have never met anyone like that.

    I have met tons that won't ride without gear, I have met quite a few that wouldn't move their bike around the driveway without a helmet on...but I haven't ever met anyone who thought the gear 'allowed' them to ride riskier.

    In my estimation, these folks you are speaking of ride 'riskier' no matter what and assuage that little voice in their head by telling others that's what they have the gear for.

    "I can ride 'riskier' because I wear gear" is simply a nice little clue that the person that said it is an idiot and should be avoided at all costs. If you find yourself surrounded by such folks, or even just have a smattering of such people around you....I would reevaluate my circle of riding buddies.
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  20. knybanjo

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