Attempted murder charges filed...

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by firebug24k, May 20, 2013.

  1. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I was being schmoozed by a company that wanted me to do what was basically a time-share on a harbor cruise boat when someone jumped from the span right in front of us.

    Dad was out visiting from VA and he saw it. I was inside drinking complimentary cocktails. :augie

    Its a LONG way down and that water isn't soft.

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  2. Mgbgt89

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    Thats what i was wondering. Heavy traffic is a godsend to get away from road ragers.

    I've had them chase me on the shoulder though... pacing me while i'm splitting.
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  3. Y E T I

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    That's one of the reasons I quit racing bicycles, too dangerous. I've had two friends killed and many seriously injured.

    Yeah, westbound in the afternoon traffic is going the other way, ie off the island. That said, this was on a Sunday so the traffic was probably pretty light anyways.
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  4. RockinTheRVA

    RockinTheRVA Been here awhile

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    So glad that shithead was caught. I've seen my share of angry people driving down the road who get away with extremely dangerous maneuvers. I hope he gets the law laid on him hard.
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  5. DavidBanner

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    i wonder if there was anything the rider could have done to prevent this crash.
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  6. MAXVERT

    MAXVERT OG on da OC

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    Put that little cock sucker in the hoosegow for 5 to 10.
    That should get his attention.
    Do that shit in Idaho and the 1911 comes out of the tank bag,
    unless the old lady draws down with her Glock first.

    Max
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  7. ER70S-2

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    The riders were on a nice BMW, that's about as grown up and responsible as it gets.

    :rofl So I'm not the only one wondering about the Kalif no CCW laws. :thumb
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  8. David13

    David13 Been here awhile

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    There is ccw here. Not enough, yes. But quite existent, nonetheless.
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  9. Y E T I

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    It would be nice to have that option, but I feel pretty safe saying, I seriously doubt he could have pulled and fired while riding. (Not to mention the legal ramifications of shooting someone who threatened you in traffic...)

    Once they got hit, I am positive he wouldn't have been able to pull, much less accurately shoot.

    Don't get me wrong, I would be all for it, but it's just not realistic in this scenario.
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  10. DavidBanner

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    huh?:huh
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  11. Valker

    Valker Been here awhile

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    It is much easier to take out a radiator than a person. Most cars will stop almost immediately without coolant.
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  12. Y E T I

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    I think he was inferring that most people who can afford a $25k brand new BMW tend to be responsible riders.


    I also suspect there wasn't much the rider could have done to avoid this. An M3 , while not as fast as a bike is still a damn fast car. On that bridge, which I have crossed 100's of times, you really can't open it up to get away.
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  13. DavidBanner

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    well, that inference is a stretch. plenty of dumb people with big money.
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  14. erkmania

    erkmania Last of the red hot left pipers

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    I know for a fact that a well driven M3 is nothing to be trifled with. John Hopkins had his way with me in one on Highland Valley Rd. while I was trying to dog him hard on my 2007 RT. I was flat outgunned that day.

    I didn't know it was Hopper until our local riding club had him as a guest speaker. That was good fun, but I don't take encounters with car drivers lightly despite that most aren't skilled racers.

    BTW, wasn't the bike an FJR?
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  15. corndog67

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    Not if you'd written, 2007 R1.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as deleted video is concerned, it's never really deleted, right? If someone with the knowhow gets ahold of the hard drive in that camera, it's still in there somewhere.
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  16. Y E T I

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    Turns out the driver had a criminal and psychological history:

    LINK
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  17. DavidBanner

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    the whole "car vs. bike" thing has long been answered.

    it's as much about the performance of the vehicles as the type of track/roadway.

    wherever the track/roadway requires combination of braking/accel AND steering inputs at the SAME TIME...a car will almost always outperform a bike. having four wheels allows more room for error, and consequently more at-the-limit time spent. that's why you never see skidpad figures for a bike, for when the bike reaches the limit...the rider is off and the bike is totaled.

    whenever the course allows these two things to be separated...a bike will CRUSH a car through sheer power to weight and weight-vs.-contact patch advantage.

    just a function of the way the vehicles operate.

    moral of the story, don't mess with a car on tight/twisty roads. they have more room for error and will stay on you. if it's turns PLUS long straights in between them...have at it. they'll never catch you blasting out of the turns.
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  18. ER70S-2

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    Yes, he was. :nod

    :freaky
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  19. ZoSo15

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    Doesn't surprise me.

    We all get mad sometimes. Some of us have even committed acts of road rage like breaking mirrors etc. But to actually try to kill someone takes a special breed.
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  20. ktmgeoff

    ktmgeoff Remember it's not a race!

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    I have nothing to add except.....:lol3
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