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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by firebug24k, May 20, 2013.
This is probably one of the best points I've seen so far. I know I've seen a G plot of a sport bike somewhere but i think it was only for acceleration. I don't think I've seen anything about a bikes lateral G capability. I would expect it to be somewhere around 1G though.
I would also have to add is that not only is it easier to exploit a car's capabilities, but you also have an added safety in the form of a cage. I would guess that one factor alone would allow a well driven sports car to keep up with most sport bikes on a tight road. From my experience on the dragon (i had a 370Z for a year); on a nice day I was generally able to keep up with the sane sport bikes (the ones that stayed in their lane). They would pull a way on the straighter bits but I could catch back up in the corners.
I would love to see them shut down the road once a year for a Hill climb style event. Start from the base by the big turnout and have it run up to the state line. Then have a couple of moto classes and a couple of car classes. For the cars just have a simple rule of street legal and helmets required. All vehicles run DOT approved rubber and sign a waiver to compete. I dunno, I've always thought that would be cool. It would let people legally use the whole road without any worries of traffic. I've almost been hit by cars in my lane with the 370, I would hate to be in that situation with a bike. Doubt it will ever happen but still....
On topic though. has anyone heard anything else about this idiot?
If the rider does not file a law suit their insurance co most likely file one to recoup their losses.
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he plead not guilty....
classy guy. cant believe he is only 24..... methinks this guy is no stranger to some decent drugs
It is interesting that you refer to that specific incident.
My first thought when I heard the news was "what, only one soldier? That is typically Europe"
Imagine what an isolated lunatic like that could have acompliced, if he could have easily bought an assault rifle and a few handguns earlier that morning.
In the US a guy like that would not even have considered leaving home without a shitload of guns and killing only one person.
I like the fact that he is also charged with endangering the little boy that was in his car.
He looks like he is sitting somewhat uncomfortably.
I bet he is very popular with bikers in his local jail.
The point he's trying to make is had the guy been carrying a handgun he'd probably still be alive and the terrorists would be dead... Victims are victims whether they are killed with a knife or a rifle....
btw an isolated lunatic doesn't have accomplices ...in fact if they were isolated they would hurt no one....because they are isolated....
Correction : you're right, 2 lunatics.
you about 70% of the population?
He resembles the Fanatic from Colorado.
I linked this, but no one seems to click it.
g force plot of modern sport bike. Now please remember, that's not a GSA, and it's not 2 up.
As for this clown, hopefully he will get enough punishment to grow the hell up.
Well, he is doing a good job off looking a good bubble off level in this picture. Doesn't look quite "there". But then, spending a bunch of nights in the pokey dancin wit Bubba probably does that to a guy.
That in itself is justice of a sort.
I watched the video, and to me the guy looks pretty stressed, as the consequences of his driving sink in.
I fucking love these posts assuming all Californians are unarmed, gun hating, and lets not forget the "liberal" insults.
Please, stay in Georgia.
On the subject they need to make an example of this dirt bag.
On the other subject of what modern day sportbikes are capable of read this article. Will surprise many on cornering ability of bikes now. There was a 1.58g recorded in a turn on the 1198S during the track time.
and for that money, they should have put a Demsosidici up against the 458
In a 20° banked curve, so not at all comparable to the lateral g figure from a skid pad.
I ride the on that bridge almost every day. Scary story!
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There are no lateral gs to the rider with a motorcycle because it banks itself by leaning into a turn. All forces to the rider are straight down to the contact patch. The tires see lateral force, though, unless you're at the neutral speed for a particular banking. Then, it's just like riding on the level with the exception that everything weighs more.
Moving objects, motorcycle riders included, cannot diverge from a linear path without lateral g's. It takes force and acceleration to move in anything other than a straight line.
My point was that throwing out a lofty lateral g figure without mentioning that it's in a highly banked curve is misleading, sort of like quoting an awesome 0-60 mph figure, but not mentioning that it only applies on steep downgrades.